Conor Chaplin joins on deal to 2029

[Cincinnati Fox]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Is Chaplin not a marquee signing ? Seems highly rated by Ipswich fans he probably wouldn’t have accepted a 2 year deal

If Chaplin is a marquee signing then we may as well liquidate the club, a journeyman who has played between L1 and L2 with 1 season in the PL were he did nothing. He is an average player and should have been getting a 2 year deal max.

we are ****ed because we have given massive wages and managed contracts poorly and see this has another example of being weak. I don’t think he is a bad signing but giving him too much and too long is an issue and show we have not learnt anything.

if he does not accept 2 years then you don’t sign him!

[boosmanana]

2 minutes ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

If Chaplin is a marquee signing then we may as well liquidate the club, a journeyman who has played between L1 and L2 with 1 season in the PL were he did nothing. He is an average player and should have been getting a 2 year deal max.

we are ****ed because we have given massive wages and managed contracts poorly and see this has another example of being weak. I don’t think he is a bad signing but giving him too much and too long is an issue and show we have not learnt anything.

if he does not accept 2 years then you don’t sign him!

Just out of sheer curiosity, how many times have you actually watched him play? As in, 90 minutes watching him play?

[honeybradger]

23 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I disagree as none of them should be playing in his position which is a support striker. Alves should be LW or an 8, likewise Page and Braybrooke is a 6.

Whatever position he plays in will take minutes from an academy player.

 

Which is fine if the senior player delivers but based on recent form he is likely to be another BDCR where we might as well have just played an academy player.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

If Chaplin is a marquee signing then we may as well liquidate the club, a journeyman who has played between L1 and L2 with 1 season in the PL were he did nothing. He is an average player and should have been getting a 2 year deal max.

we are ****ed because we have given massive wages and managed contracts poorly and see this has another example of being weak. I don’t think he is a bad signing but giving him too much and too long is an issue and show we have not learnt anything.

if he does not accept 2 years then you don’t sign him!

We are in League one and need to get out of it if we have to pay him one more year it may be beneficial in the long run instead of stagnating in league one and having to sign more players 

[Cincinnati Fox]

Just now, boosmanana said:

Just out of sheer curiosity, how many times have you actually watched him play? As in, 90 minutes watching him play?

Probably 20 times a full 90 minutes over the years and highlights. My issue is not his ability. I think he is fine at this level (we are ****ing L1!!!!! ) l. But 3 years for a declining 29 year old is too long and shows we continue to make poor financial decisions which is why we are in such a mess.

After 2 years if he and we are successful he is not going to turn down an extra year here is he!

[Cincinnati Fox]

4 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

We are in League one and need to get out of it if we have to pay him one more year it may be beneficial in the long run instead of stagnating in league one and having to sign more players 

And please explain 2 years for ****ing Alex McCarthy!

yer I am angry and unreasonable but top and Rudkin have destroyed this club and I have no faith in this ownership improving anything and these x2 decisions tell me they have learnt nothing

[stevostadium]

16 minutes ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

And please explain 2 years for ****ing Alex McCarthy!

yer I am angry and unreasonable but top and Rudkin have destroyed this club and I have no faith in this ownership improving anything and these x2 decisions tell me they have learnt nothing

Because he is better than the keepers we currently have

he be 38 when contract expires

He a GK

Vardy is 39 and still going strong

New DOF is doing the right things

more happened in 3 weeks under RM than last 3 years with other managers

 

loosen up

[boosmanana]

24 minutes ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

Probably 20 times a full 90 minutes over the years and highlights. My issue is not his ability. I think he is fine at this level (we are ****ing L1!!!!! ) l. But 3 years for a declining 29 year old is too long and shows we continue to make poor financial decisions which is why we are in such a mess.

After 2 years if he and we are successful he is not going to turn down an extra year here is he!

After 2 years if he and we are successful then we'd presumably either be happy for him to play into the 3rd year of his contract on the same salary he committed to in League One, or we'd sell him in the final year of his contract as there'd be clubs interested in signing him off the back of 2 successful seasons? It's not really about resale value when you've not paid a transfer fee for his services. We also don't know what kind of salary we've committed to paying him either. I do understand your points though and in a totally ideal world it would have been a 2 year deal and we wouldn't be in League One in the first place!

[AyewJoking]

6 hours ago, Libertine said:

Lovely shorts he’s wearing x

fosse gold

[Cincinnati Fox]

39 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

Because he is better than the keepers we currently have

he be 38 when contract expires

He a GK

Vardy is 39 and still going strong

New DOF is doing the right things

more happened in 3 weeks under RM than last 3 years with other managers

 

loosen up

😂 KPFC

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

And please explain 2 years for ****ing Alex McCarthy!

yer I am angry and unreasonable but top and Rudkin have destroyed this club and I have no faith in this ownership improving anything and these x2 decisions tell me they have learnt nothing

Without knowing the detail of the contract, just going off the length of the contract is stupid.

 

A player is often happy to take a low wage or signing on fee for more security.

 

 

 

 

 

[Scotch]

1 hour ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

If Chaplin is a marquee signing then we may as well liquidate the club, a journeyman who has played between L1 and L2 with 1 season in the PL were he did nothing. He is an average player and should have been getting a 2 year deal max.

we are ****ed because we have given massive wages and managed contracts poorly and see this has another example of being weak. I don’t think he is a bad signing but giving him too much and too long is an issue and show we have not learnt anything.

if he does not accept 2 years then you don’t sign him!

That's a massive upgrade on what we had last season then. 

[HarryDee8]

Just on wiki. He scored 2 goals in 36 appearances, is that correct?

[kenny]

3 minutes ago, HarryDee8 said:

Just on wiki. He scored 2 goals in 36 appearances, is that correct?

No.

 

36 goals in 2 appearances.

[HankMarvin]

2 minutes ago, Scotch said:

That's a massive upgrade on what we had last season then. 

Marquee signing with 5 goal contributions from 36 games is it an upgrade on the crap that has just left?

Worse record in a team that finished 5 places higher.

The only plus seems to be that he is on a cheaper wage (unconfirmed)
Had one cracking season in league one but also 3 fairly underwhelming ones prior to that.

[AKCJ]

5 minutes ago, HarryDee8 said:

Just on wiki. He scored 2 goals in 36 appearances, is that correct?

He's played 141 games in League 1 and averages a goal every 180 minutes. 1 in 2 is a decent rate for any striker.

[ealingfox]

6 minutes ago, HarryDee8 said:

Just on wiki. He scored 2 goals in 36 appearances, is that correct?

 

Our Jordan Ayew replacement

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, HankMarvin said:

Marquee signing with 5 goal contributions from 36 games is it an upgrade on the crap that has just left?

Worse record in a team that finished 5 places higher.

The only plus seems to be that he is on a cheaper wage (unconfirmed)
Had one cracking season in league one but also 3 fairly underwhelming ones prior to that.

Yes! He has a much better attitude. 

[Scotch]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

Marquee signing with 5 goal contributions from 36 games is it an upgrade on the crap that has just left?

Worse record in a team that finished 5 places higher.

The only plus seems to be that he is on a cheaper wage (unconfirmed)
Had one cracking season in league one but also 3 fairly underwhelming ones prior to that.

Yes, because he puts a shift in, Is thought highly of at the clubs he's been at for his professionalism and he wants to be here. That automatically puts him above Winks, Vestergard, VK and half the others that have left. 

[boosmanana]

3 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He's played 141 games in League 1 and averages a goal every 180 minutes. 1 in 2 is a decent rate for any striker.

Especially when he's not a striker.

[HankMarvin]

8 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He's played 141 games in League 1 and averages a goal every 180 minutes. 1 in 2 is a decent rate for any striker.

48 goals in 141 is nearer to one in 3 

 

26 goals in 45 in one season appears to be a bit of a outlier.

Because prior to that season it drops to a goal every 4.3 games in league one.

Edited 8 hours ago by HankMarvin

[AKCJ]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

48 goals in 141 is nearer to one in 3 

 

26 goals in 45 in one season appears to be a bit of a outlier.

Because excluding that season it drops to a goal every 4.3 games in league one.

180 minutes is two lots of 90. Always makes more sense to go by minutes because otherwise you're penalising him for coming off the bench for 5 minutes.

 

He's scored 48 and assisted 12 in 8,809 minutes in League 1. That's a good record for a forward.

 

If he were to play every minute of next season, you could expect him to score roughly 22 goals and get 5 assists. I suspect we'd be chuffed with that.

[Stuntman_Mike]

1 hour ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

Probably 20 times a full 90 minutes over the years and highlights. My issue is not his ability. I think he is fine at this level (we are ****ing L1!!!!! ) l. But 3 years for a declining 29 year old is too long and shows we continue to make poor financial decisions which is why we are in such a mess.

After 2 years if he and we are successful he is not going to turn down an extra year here is he!

We can't consider it poor until we know the full details of his contract though. 

 

He could be on lower wages because it's 3 years and we actually benefit or make a small profit from selling him at 30/31.

 

You can sign someone on the decline on longer deals if the terms are good, it's just our recent problem is paying way over the odds on wages for players who won't get better elsewhere and who don't want to leave.

[Gamble92]

Why does McCarthy look like my Dad dressed to watch the game with a bowl of nachos?

[WorcesterBlue]

I've seen Chappers a lot. A whole hearted leader. Great in the dressing room and influential on the pitch. 

Give him the armband.

You will not be disapointed.