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22 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

How people defend the ownership and Rudders is beyond me.

 

 

 

100% agree. I’m even annoyed you have referred to him to him as ‘Rudders’. Seems far too an affectionate nickname, like he’s one of us 😂😂

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Posted
21 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

That's a straw man if ever I've seen one lol 

Let's be honest     Rudkins negotiating skills have been a large part of the problem.     Basically a player and his agent walk into his office they tell Rudkin what they want and he agrees immediately... negotiations over  ..... and we are lumbered with a average footballer on World class wages for 3 years ... 

Posted

Narcissism 101. 
 

Could start an argument in an empty room this one. 
 

Makes any discussion round the topic pointless as it argues with every other post and plays victim defending its own delusions. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Winstonthedog said:

Let's be honest     Rudkins negotiating skills have been a large part of the problem.     Basically a player and his agent walk into his office they tell Rudkin what they want and he agrees immediately... negotiations over  ..... and we are lumbered with an average footballer on World class wages for 3 years ... 

I think it goes above this.

 

Maybe, just maybe Rudkin may have been told to get a player at any price and so has just been doing his job 😉

 

Also, if this was my business, I’d be close enough to ensure ridiculous deals don’t get agreed.

 

As the owner of the business, you have to be close to the situation, you have to have knowledge of the deals, you have to be seeing the full picture, you have to analyse the risk. We were sleep walking not a disaster. 

 

It’s a huge mess and I think there is much more to come. The sale notice has only gone up when the year end accounts have been looked at.

 

It’s a mess of catastrophic proportions, but I’ll say something. I’d have taken this catastrophe for an FA Cup win.

 

We wouldnt have won the FA Cup without overstretching ourselves, it goes back that far.

 

Im not bitter, Im just glad it all happened and at some point we will start all over again.

 

My money is on it getting much worse before it gets better though.

 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

I think it goes above this.

 

Maybe, just maybe Rudkin may have been told to get a player at any price and so has just been doing his job 😉

 

Also, if this was my business, I’d be close enough to ensure ridiculous deals don’t get agreed.

 

As the owner of the business, you have to be close to the situation, you have to have knowledge of the deals, you have to be seeing the full picture, you have to analyse the risk. We were sleep walking not a disaster. 

 

It’s a huge mess and I think there is much more to come. The sale notice has only gone up when the year end accounts have been looked at.

 

It’s a mess of catastrophic proportions, but I’ll say something. I’d have taken this catastrophe for an FA Cup win.

 

We wouldnt have won the FA Cup without overstretching ourselves, it goes back that far.

 

Im not bitter, Im just glad it all happened and at some point we will start all over again.

 

My money is on it getting much worse before it gets better though.

 

The sooner the club is sold and a new owner starts sorting out the management of the club the better

Posted
4 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

A couple of things first so you can’t play victim.

 

Firstly, I haven’t weighed in on this debate at all. And second, I am a poster who does tend to take time to post more lengthy balanced posted rather than purely being reactive as I’m sure my history would show (not to say frustrations can’t prompt a reaction on certain occasions).

 

But you expect to post something like 95% on this forum are morons then whinge when people have a pop at you? It’s insulting, generalising people who you know nothing about, unnecessary and childish. If you were actually interested in matured, balanced conversation, you wouldn’t be making daft comments like this. 

Surely the only thing wrong with his statement about 95% of people in this forum being morons is that figure is way too low 

Posted
1 hour ago, Holly B said:

Surely the only thing wrong with his statement about 95% of people in this forum being morons is that figure is way too low 

I guess that if 95% of the forum spent their time posting how great Top and KP are and how well run we are etc etc, that’d make 95% of the forum very knowledgeable and sensible individuals then?

Posted

Searching the net with Perplexity AI it comes up with this about Neil Lal’s plans if successful to purchase LCFC with an Indian consortium.

Who is Neil 

 

 King Power running a sale process and a bid deadline now set.

Current status of the sale
•    King Power (the Srivaddhanaprabha family) have placed Leicester City up for sale for more than £200m, with a sales brochure (“Project Lineup”) being circulated to prospective buyers via Citigroup.[reuters +2]
•    The package includes the men’s and women’s teams, the King Power Stadium, the Seagrave training centre, and Belgian sister club OH Leuven.[bbc +1]
•    A deadline of 14 September 2026 has been set for formal offers, according to recent reporting.[livescore]
Who’s interested?
•    A consortium led by Neil Lal (Scottish‑Indian businessman) is the only publicly named party so far; he’s submitted a written enquiry and is exploring a takeover.[livescore +1]
•    Middle Eastern investors are said to be monitoring the situation and have shown interest, though no firm bid has been confirmed.[livescore +2]
•    Earlier reports also mentioned a local property-linked consortium looking at the stadium/training ground, but again, no formal offer has been tabled.[livescore +1]
Context and pressure
•    The sale follows years of financial strain after the pandemic hit King Power’s travel‑retail business, reducing their ability to subsidise the club.[livescore]
•    With Leicester in League One and cashflow tight, there’s pressure to complete a deal quickly; some reports warn of administration risk if no investment arrives.[livescore +1]
If you’d like, I can pull together a timeline of key events since July, or dig into Neil Lal’s background and what his stated plans mean for LCFC.


Neil Lal is a Scottish‑Indian businessman and community leader based in Glasgow, not a traditional football investor.[yahoo +2]
•    He is chairman and president of the Indian Council of Scotland and the United Kingdom, and holds various charitable and civic roles (patron of Together UK Foundation, board member of Variety Scotland, etc.).[yahoo +1]
•    His family business, Lal & Co, dates back to the 1940s; he now oversees multiple UK companies under the Lal Sharma Group spanning real estate, venture capital and investment.[yahoo +1]
•    He has received several community and peace‑related awards (e.g. “Man of the Decade” 2025, “I Am Peacekeeper” Champion Award), but has no prior track record in football club ownership.[yahoo +1]
•    Reported personal net worth is around £2 million, which is why he is assembling an Indian‑based consortium to fund any deal.[leicestermercury +1]
His stated plans for Leicester City
Lal has been clear that he sees Leicester as the first step in a wider football project, with Rangers as a longer‑term target.[yahoo +2]
Football strategy
•    Return Leicester to the Premier League as the core objective, rebuilding the club after its recent decline.[yahoo +2]
•    He wants to tap into India’s 1.4 billion population to drive new revenue, specifically through:
•    Merchandising aimed at Indian fans
•    Streaming/digital content deals and fan engagement platforms
•    Using the “Indian connection” to attract sponsors and commercial partners.[yahoo +1]
Infrastructure and commercial ideas
While most detail so far relates to his Rangers ambitions, they give a sense of his approach:
•    Expand stadium capacity (he has talked about growing Ibrox from ~50,000 to 60,000+).[yahoo +1]
•    Add hotel and restaurant facilities at the stadium to create matchday and non‑matchday income.[yahoo +1]
•    Use global Indian fan engagement to generate funds for player investment and infrastructure.[yahoo]
Applied to Leicester, you’d expect a similar playbook: commercialise the brand in India, upgrade facilities over time, and use new revenue to strengthen the squad.
How serious is this bid?
There are green flags and red flags:
Positive signs
•    Lal has formally written to King Power requesting financial information and confirmed his interest publicly.[leicestermercury +1]
•    His consortium is among the named parties in talks as the 14 September offer deadline approaches.[dailysports +2]
Concerns
•    His personal wealth (£2m) is tiny relative to a £200m+ deal plus inherited debt; he is entirely dependent on pulling together a credible investor group.[leicestermercury +1]
•    Former football executive Keith Wyness has publicly doubted Lal’s ability to raise the necessary funds and sustain investment to get Leicester back up the leagues.[yahoo]
•    Neither Lal nor his consortium have previous experience running a football club, which adds execution risk.[roundtable]
At this stage, Lal’s interest is real but early: he’s in the information‑gathering phase with a consortium, not yet at the point of a binding, fully‑funded offer.[striver +1]
If you’d like, I can outline what a realistic “Indian commercialisation” plan might look like for LCFC (revenue levers, risks, and precedents from other clubs), or track any new named bidders as the 14 September deadline nears.

 

do at this moment in time this is the only real interest in the club, so hopefully we’ll have a few more bids go in to buy the club it’s just worrying thou about the prospect of Administration even before we’re sold , Top & Rudkin have really royally Fuched up this club beyond recognition!

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Others might have expressed an interest. 
 

2 weeks from now, according to dodgy media sources, bidding is meant to be closed. 
 

They’re looking for a quick sale.

 

If it was the minor confrontation with a fan outside the stadium that pushed Top over the edge, then can you imagine if he’d owned a club like Galatasary and they’d been relegated to their equivalent of League 1! 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Sly said:

Others might have expressed an interest. 
 

2 weeks from now, according to dodgy media sources, bidding is meant to be closed. 
 

They’re looking for a quick sale.

 

If it was the minor confrontation with a fan outside the stadium that pushed Top over the edge, then can you imagine if he’d owned a club like Galatasary and they’d been relegated to their equivalent of League 1! 

If it’s, that fan needs knighting……

Posted
On 29/08/2026 at 09:01, Groby_Blue said:

Just read the last ten pages of this thread and it was like watching an episode of Frasier

Whip-smart wit, great lines delivered to perfection, heavy on the farce? 
 

 

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Posted (edited)
On 27/08/2026 at 13:32, Pliskin said:

Facilities like Seagrave only become an issue then they’re misused… if it’s properly utilised and ran, it’s a major asset. 

One can argue is using it for a non elite team is misuse in itself.  But aside from that financially and the size of the club the thing isnt even appropriate for the club, and we have ex players comparing it to a sauna type of complex.

 

Many are clinging on to it as if it raises our status in football in something.

 

Last 5 years league position on old training ground prior to move.

Champions EPL

12th EPL

9th EPL

8th EPL

5th EPL

 

5 seasons after

5th EPL

8th EPL

18th EPL relegated

1st EFL promoted

18th EFL relegated

 

Value of youth player sales

50m for Chillwell, pre Seagrave.

Big money for Mahrez and Maguire who improved whilst at the club prior to Seagrave.

Big money for Fofana very shortly after Seagrave opened.

Barnes sold 38million year or so after Seagrave opened but his development was pre Seagrave.

40m for KDH, who was already first team on move to Seagrave. Development pre Seagrave.

Mcateer most of his LCFC career with us at Seagrave sold for 12m

Mads also profit sold at 20million.

Justin good money but mostly pre Seagrave. Was at his best performance and fitness wise pre Seagrave.

Fatawa good 20m, but he seemed to decline towards the end here.  Could be bad management, but not a shining example of Seagrave.

Monga 10million, our Seagrave example.  The one clear success at the moment.

Vardy absolute machine, his best years pre Seagrave. 

Nearly every game I have watched us play post Seagrave we look the least fit team.
 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sly said:

Others might have expressed an interest. 
 

2 weeks from now, according to dodgy media sources, bidding is meant to be closed. 
 

They’re looking for a quick sale.

 

If it was the minor confrontation with a fan outside the stadium that pushed Top over the edge, then can you imagine if he’d owned a club like Galatasary and they’d been relegated to their equivalent of League 1! 

Could've been the final straw, but to be fair, he did say that he'd received hate mail that upset him after the first relegation. But, I agree, a football club owner needs a thick skin to survive.

Posted
2 hours ago, justfoxes said:

Searching the net with Perplexity AI it comes up with this about Neil Lal’s plans if successful to purchase LCFC with an Indian consortium.

Who is Neil 

 

 King Power running a sale process and a bid deadline now set.

Current status of the sale
•    King Power (the Srivaddhanaprabha family) have placed Leicester City up for sale for more than £200m, with a sales brochure (“Project Lineup”) being circulated to prospective buyers via Citigroup.[reuters +2]
•    The package includes the men’s and women’s teams, the King Power Stadium, the Seagrave training centre, and Belgian sister club OH Leuven.[bbc +1]
•    A deadline of 14 September 2026 has been set for formal offers, according to recent reporting.[livescore]
Who’s interested?
•    A consortium led by Neil Lal (Scottish‑Indian businessman) is the only publicly named party so far; he’s submitted a written enquiry and is exploring a takeover.[livescore +1]
•    Middle Eastern investors are said to be monitoring the situation and have shown interest, though no firm bid has been confirmed.[livescore +2]
•    Earlier reports also mentioned a local property-linked consortium looking at the stadium/training ground, but again, no formal offer has been tabled.[livescore +1]
Context and pressure
•    The sale follows years of financial strain after the pandemic hit King Power’s travel‑retail business, reducing their ability to subsidise the club.[livescore]
•    With Leicester in League One and cashflow tight, there’s pressure to complete a deal quickly; some reports warn of administration risk if no investment arrives.[livescore +1]
If you’d like, I can pull together a timeline of key events since July, or dig into Neil Lal’s background and what his stated plans mean for LCFC.


Neil Lal is a Scottish‑Indian businessman and community leader based in Glasgow, not a traditional football investor.[yahoo +2]
•    He is chairman and president of the Indian Council of Scotland and the United Kingdom, and holds various charitable and civic roles (patron of Together UK Foundation, board member of Variety Scotland, etc.).[yahoo +1]
•    His family business, Lal & Co, dates back to the 1940s; he now oversees multiple UK companies under the Lal Sharma Group spanning real estate, venture capital and investment.[yahoo +1]
•    He has received several community and peace‑related awards (e.g. “Man of the Decade” 2025, “I Am Peacekeeper” Champion Award), but has no prior track record in football club ownership.[yahoo +1]
•    Reported personal net worth is around £2 million, which is why he is assembling an Indian‑based consortium to fund any deal.[leicestermercury +1]
His stated plans for Leicester City
Lal has been clear that he sees Leicester as the first step in a wider football project, with Rangers as a longer‑term target.[yahoo +2]
Football strategy
•    Return Leicester to the Premier League as the core objective, rebuilding the club after its recent decline.[yahoo +2]
•    He wants to tap into India’s 1.4 billion population to drive new revenue, specifically through:
•    Merchandising aimed at Indian fans
•    Streaming/digital content deals and fan engagement platforms
•    Using the “Indian connection” to attract sponsors and commercial partners.[yahoo +1]
Infrastructure and commercial ideas
While most detail so far relates to his Rangers ambitions, they give a sense of his approach:
•    Expand stadium capacity (he has talked about growing Ibrox from ~50,000 to 60,000+).[yahoo +1]
•    Add hotel and restaurant facilities at the stadium to create matchday and non‑matchday income.[yahoo +1]
•    Use global Indian fan engagement to generate funds for player investment and infrastructure.[yahoo]
Applied to Leicester, you’d expect a similar playbook: commercialise the brand in India, upgrade facilities over time, and use new revenue to strengthen the squad.
How serious is this bid?
There are green flags and red flags:
Positive signs
•    Lal has formally written to King Power requesting financial information and confirmed his interest publicly.[leicestermercury +1]
•    His consortium is among the named parties in talks as the 14 September offer deadline approaches.[dailysports +2]
Concerns
•    His personal wealth (£2m) is tiny relative to a £200m+ deal plus inherited debt; he is entirely dependent on pulling together a credible investor group.[leicestermercury +1]
•    Former football executive Keith Wyness has publicly doubted Lal’s ability to raise the necessary funds and sustain investment to get Leicester back up the leagues.[yahoo]
•    Neither Lal nor his consortium have previous experience running a football club, which adds execution risk.[roundtable]
At this stage, Lal’s interest is real but early: he’s in the information‑gathering phase with a consortium, not yet at the point of a binding, fully‑funded offer.[striver +1]
If you’d like, I can outline what a realistic “Indian commercialisation” plan might look like for LCFC (revenue levers, risks, and precedents from other clubs), or track any new named bidders as the 14 September deadline nears.

 

do at this moment in time this is the only real interest in the club, so hopefully we’ll have a few more bids go in to buy the club it’s just worrying thou about the prospect of Administration even before we’re sold , Top & Rudkin have really royally Fuched up this club beyond recognition!

With circa 35% of the City ethnically Indian it could, if it ever happened increase the interest / % of Indian fans

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So Man. City have bought two players for what we're worth. Surely someone out there could buy us and get us moving again, if that's the kind of money sploshing about.

Posted
On 31/08/2026 at 09:03, coolhandfox said:

Neil Lal’s isn't going to be buying us.

 

Tyre kicker 

 

Good PR stunt for him, free advertising 

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Just Keith Wyness

 

 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/leicester-city/finance/two-blokes-in-a-house-in-manchester-submitted-everton-takeover-bids

'Two blokes in a house in Manchester submitted Everton takeover bids'
Keith Wyness
Evan Shaw
Keith Wyness, Evan ShawView Credentials

Published on: 
04 Sep 2026, 8:44 am
Leicester City's King Power ownership are likely to be "wasting their time" with their £222million valuation of the club.

That is according to former Everton chief executive and ex-Premier League board member Keith Wyness, speaking exclusively to Football Insider, who believes that the Foxes' hierarchy need to be more realistic if they are to successfully sell the club.

Leicester's current valuation is for their entire portfolio, including the King Power Stadium and their state-of-the-art training ground.

However, Wyness believes that there is a "naivety" behind the way that their owners are trying to sell the club, including their use of Citi Bank to help broker a deal.

The League One outfit finally secured their first win of the new campaign when they beat Plymouth Argyle 2-0 on Tuesday night.

However, the uncertainty behind the scenes continues, and Wyness expects the club to be subject to bids from some suspect sources in the coming weeks.

 

Keith Wyness issues warning to Leicester owners
Everton’s former chief Wyness – who served as CEO at Goodison Park between 2004 and 2009 and now runs a football consultancy advising elite clubs – believes that opportunities to buy clubs like Leicester are always likely to attract shady characters.

The Scottish businessman explained that he expects numerous "strange bids" to come in before the club is ultimately sold.

Speaking on Football Insider's Inside Track podcast, he explained that King Power have a responsibility to ensure that the club doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

"Citi Bank is handling the transaction, and to my knowledge, they haven't done many football club transactions before. So there's a bit of naivety, I think, in the way this is being valued and marketed," Wyness said.

"When clubs are up for sale, everybody comes out of the woodwork. The famous story I had when I was at Everton, Bill Kenwright and I were looking to sell Everton at one stage.

"We had a group purporting to be very big in the chemical situation in the Far East, and they were making bids for Everton. Turns out they were two blokes in a house in Manchester. 

"You've got to be very careful as to who comes out of the woodwork, and Leicester will be getting their full share because it's at this level in League One where you're going to see a lot of strange bids coming in. 

"I think they are wasting their time at £222m. That's my opinion."


Keith Wyness explains chances of Neil Lal agreeing Leicester City takeover: ‘Two things here…’
Wyness explains chances of Neil Lal takeover
Wyness previously told Football Insider that prospective Leicester buyer Neil Lal effectively has "zero chance" of avtually being able to buy the club.

He outlined that the Scottish-Indian businessman would likely need the support of one of the "very wealth Indian families" for him to be able to come close to meeting the valuation.

Wyness also suggested £150m as a far more realistic valuation for the East Midlands outfit, given that they are now in the third tier.

He is adamant that they will not be sold at the £222m mark, and must act accordingly to lower their asking price.

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On 31/08/2026 at 08:29, Chrysalis said:

One can argue is using it for a non elite team is misuse in itself.  But aside from that financially and the size of the club the thing isnt even appropriate for the club, and we have ex players comparing it to a sauna type of complex.

 

Many are clinging on to it as if it raises our status in football in something.

 

Last 5 years league position on old training ground prior to move.

Champions EPL

12th EPL

9th EPL

8th EPL

5th EPL

 

5 seasons after

5th EPL

8th EPL

18th EPL relegated

1st EFL promoted

18th EFL relegated

 

Value of youth player sales

50m for Chillwell, pre Seagrave.

Big money for Mahrez and Maguire who improved whilst at the club prior to Seagrave.

Big money for Fofana very shortly after Seagrave opened.

Barnes sold 38million year or so after Seagrave opened but his development was pre Seagrave.

40m for KDH, who was already first team on move to Seagrave. Development pre Seagrave.

Mcateer most of his LCFC career with us at Seagrave sold for 12m

Mads also profit sold at 20million.

Justin good money but mostly pre Seagrave. Was at his best performance and fitness wise pre Seagrave.

Fatawa good 20m, but he seemed to decline towards the end here.  Could be bad management, but not a shining example of Seagrave.

Monga 10million, our Seagrave example.  The one clear success at the moment.

Vardy absolute machine, his best years pre Seagrave. 

Nearly every game I have watched us play post Seagrave we look the least fit team.
 

I wonder what our ratio of ACL’s pre and post Seagrave are in that same timeframe too 

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On 31/08/2026 at 08:29, Chrysalis said:

One can argue is using it for a non elite team is misuse in itself.  But aside from that financially and the size of the club the thing isnt even appropriate for the club, and we have ex players comparing it to a sauna type of complex.

 

Many are clinging on to it as if it raises our status in football in something.

 

Last 5 years league position on old training ground prior to move.

Champions EPL

12th EPL

9th EPL

8th EPL

5th EPL

 

5 seasons after

5th EPL

8th EPL

18th EPL relegated

1st EFL promoted

18th EFL relegated

 

Value of youth player sales

50m for Chillwell, pre Seagrave.

Big money for Mahrez and Maguire who improved whilst at the club prior to Seagrave.

Big money for Fofana very shortly after Seagrave opened.

Barnes sold 38million year or so after Seagrave opened but his development was pre Seagrave.

40m for KDH, who was already first team on move to Seagrave. Development pre Seagrave.

Mcateer most of his LCFC career with us at Seagrave sold for 12m

Mads also profit sold at 20million.

Justin good money but mostly pre Seagrave. Was at his best performance and fitness wise pre Seagrave.

Fatawa good 20m, but he seemed to decline towards the end here.  Could be bad management, but not a shining example of Seagrave.

Monga 10million, our Seagrave example.  The one clear success at the moment.

Vardy absolute machine, his best years pre Seagrave. 

Nearly every game I have watched us play post Seagrave we look the least fit team.
 

Nothing to do with Seagrave it’s when we lost Viachi and then Kasper it all went tits up and we let Rudkin run the show with Top. Didn’t sacked Rodger’s early enough etc

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Posted
17 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I wonder what our ratio of ACL’s pre and post Seagrave are in that same timeframe too 

Might not be 100% as its AI, but a decent enough list.

2016    Matty James    First team    ACL    May 2015*    Not actually a 2016 injury — James was still recovering during 2016.
2017    No confirmed ACL/MCL injury found
2018     No confirmed ACL/MCL injury found
2019    Bartosz Kapustka    Leicester player, on loan at OH Leuven    ACL    March/April 2019    Tore his ACL while on loan in Belgium; Leicester still held his registration. 
2020    Ricardo Pereira    First team    ACL    4 March 2020    Sustained the ACL injury against Aston Villa; it ended his 2019/20 season. 
2021    James Justin    First team    ACL    10 February 2021    Injured in the FA Cup win over Brighton. Leicester confirmed the ACL injury two days later. 
2022    Will Alves    Academy/U21    ACL    21 December 2022    Suffered a torn ACL during extra time of the FA Youth Cup match against Wolves. 
2022    Jamie Vardy    First team    MCL    Early March 2022    Knee injury suffered against Leeds; Rodgers subsequently specifically referred to pain around Vardy's MCL. 
2022    Wilfred Ndidi    First team    Medial ligament/MCL    17 March 2022    Injured his knee against Rennes in the Europa Conference League.
2023    Sammy Braybrooke    Academy/U21    ACL    Late January 2023 / announced 1 February    Leicester academy midfielder suffered an ACL injury and subsequently missed a long period of development. 
2024    Abdul Fatawu    First team    ACL    November 2024    Sustained the injury on international duty with Ghana. Leicester confirmed the long-term ACL injury on 21 November. 
2025    No confirmed Leicester ACL/MCL injury found
2026    Hamza Choudhury    First team    MCL    1 February
2026    Ben Nelson    First team/Academy graduate    ACL    2 August 2026    Injured during the pre-season friendly against Genoa; Leicester confirmed he would miss the majority of 2026/27. 

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