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Liam Cullen (signed, official)

By moore_94, in Transfer Talk

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Sol thewall Bamba

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2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

i dont know why it irritates you, 

where was this "irritation" when we spunked 5mil on Ayew....20+mil on Skipp etc?

im looking at the bigger picture here but maybe they want someone in whos actually more tried and tested in some regard

and as for saying hes ANOTHER player we wont make a profit on, we've had loads the last number of yrs,

 

and being financially irresponsible.....if thats the case then right, we shouldnt have signed Chaplin, McFarlane or McCarthy because they would have signing on fees.....loan fees etc

all we wouldnt have made a profit on

correct?

 

 

 

In the threads when they were announced/rumoured? 

 

I know it irks people that were slow on the uptake but there have been people that have seen this coming for years.

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FrankieADZ

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Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

In the threads when they were announced/rumoured? 

 

I know it irks people that were slow on the uptake but there have been people that have seen this coming for years.

in general i guess

tbf we've all seen this mess coming for yrs, it was happening half way thru BR's stint here.

but many on here turned a blind eye to it

Ric Flair

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7 minutes ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

Can't see that we will be spending any serious money on this guy. He will cost money as he's in contract but just £250k or so. 

Playing devil's advocate, why would they sell him for that? He's 27, come through their academy and so got a strong affiliation and settled. Has been a mainstay in their side but possibly becoming less important but even so they unless he's on massive wages and they just need him gone, he seems ripe for us as poor negotiators to have paid handsomely. 

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Finnegan

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4 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah son, some on here thought they was good deals.....

then again same was said when Luke Thomas got a new 4yr contract.....

 

I really can't work out what ****ing side of this debate you're on lol

 

Would you pick a lane you're giving me a migraine. 

 

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coolhandfox

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6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah son, some on here thought they was good deals.....

then again same was said when Luke Thomas got a new 4yr contract.....

At some point we have to all wake up, does it matter when as long as people do.

 

Previous bad deals, don't make the next bad deal a good deal.

 

 

 

 

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dmayne7

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38 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

I suspected it was something stupid when I heard that the Swansea dressing room were gutted he was going. 
 

Operation gamble to get us out of the shit continues then I guess.

If we're gambling, that makes this deal even worse because that gambling also means trying to get back to the PL and somebody like Cullen, will surely have no part in that (dubious that he can propel us towards promotion).

 

Didn't like the deal originally especially when you compare it to the Chaplin signing, but like it even less now

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FoxKent_88

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16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Playing devil's advocate, why would they sell him for that? He's 27, come through their academy and so got a strong affiliation and settled. Has been a mainstay in their side but possibly becoming less important but even so they unless he's on massive wages and they just need him gone, he seems ripe for us as poor negotiators to have paid handsomely. 

If he's been told playing time is likely to be limited and/or they want to free up a squad place. For someone who has been a loyal servant at the club since age 9 it's in no one's interest to price him out of a move. They've had fair value from him so reasonable to let him go for a 'nominal' fee.  

FrankieADZ

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21 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I really can't work out what ****ing side of this debate you're on lol

 

Would you pick a lane you're giving me a migraine. 

 

im in the middle with it tbf, 


i see where youre coming from in regards the fee etc, like id rather us go for the young up and coming players etc but sadly the market isnt in our favour in that regard and we lag behind in certain aspects, like the club has a massive fear of buying from Asia even tho there is alot of talented players there who can be brought for a reasonable price, 

 

but i understand why they are looking at Cullen, he can play a number of positions, wont be on a stupid wage, wont be a mardy arsehole(like certain others we've brough), i fully know we aint going to get anything remotely like the 2mil we'll pay for him(if its over 3mil for cullen i wouldnt be overly pleased tbf), its another experienced head to add to the group as well, who wont be a slug like ayew

Sad thing is right we could get Ballard for 5mil right and he could flop and we'd sell him for 2mil or something, 

 

Im not going mad about it because id rather give McCarron the time to see what hes doing etc, 

 

also i will be annoyed if we are signing these players and they are taking spots from some of the younger lads who have performed well in pre-season...likes of Alves, Braybrooke, Aluko, Otchere, because they deserve to be in and around the starting 11 

 

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coolhandfox

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5 minutes ago, FoxKent_88 said:

If he's been told playing time is likely to be limited and/or they want to free up a squad place. For someone who has been a loyal servant at the club since age 9 it's in no one's interest to price him out of a move. They've had fair value from him so reasonable to let him go for a 'nominal' fee.  

Over a 1m isn't a nominal fee when you are in financial crisis.

DezFox

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm sorry but this attitude irritates me. 

 

How are people STILL apathetic about the money? It used to be "well it's not your money is it" and then it was "yeah but all money in football is ridiculous" now it's "well we've spent worse how bad can it be." 

 

Mate, I'm saying this as calmly as I can, we're down here because it can be very bad. Being financially irresponsible is why we're here. Not only is the money we'll spend on Cullen significant to us right now but he's also yet ANOTHER player we will never, ever, ever make profit on. 

 

We just can't keep doing this. 

 

💯 this. 

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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21 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

tbf we shouldnt have signed any players then really if we are in a financial crisis

It's a balancing act. 

 

We can't afford to say in L1 either.

 

 

 

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Edingleyfox

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The problem is that we keep going for these utility players usually aged about  30 on biggish wages that can play up front but are never going to get 20 goals a season and cannot be regarded as more than a short term fix. Someone younger like Ballard will at least be profitable in the medium term if he maintains his form but that sort of thinking has been lacking over the last couple of years even when we were in the Prem with the exception of Bilal.

StinckleyFox

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1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Not confirmed, but from the Swansea side.

Swansea have said that it’s over 1 mill? Or a Swansea fan pretending to be ITK has said that it’s over 1 mill?

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JonnyBoy

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27 minutes ago, Edingleyfox said:

The problem is that we keep going for these utility players usually aged about  30 on biggish wages that can play up front but are never going to get 20 goals a season and cannot be regarded as more than a short term fix. Someone younger like Ballard will at least be profitable in the medium term if he maintains his form but that sort of thinking has been lacking over the last couple of years even when we were in the Prem with the exception of Bilal.

We need an out and out striker, if we don’t get one before the window closes we won’t get promoted and the club will be in even more bother than we are in now.

 

I still cannot believe we haven’t got a proper striker in. 

 

 

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Spudulike

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Just reading through the thread on the Swansea forum and there's quite a lot of dislike for us, and not just anything relating to Martin. This post made me laugh...

 

They come across as a bit of a soulless unnecessarily posh club. Like Reading singing along to that Glee song at Wembley. The difference between them and Bradford at Wembley was palpable.

 

Posh :blink:

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UniFox21

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7 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Just reading through the thread on the Swansea forum and there's quite a lot of dislike for us, and not just anything relating to Martin. This post made me laugh...

 

They come across as a bit of a soulless unnecessarily posh club. Like Reading singing along to that Glee song at Wembley. The difference between them and Bradford at Wembley was palpable.

 

Posh :blink:

Tbf, living in Swansea probably does skew your opinion on what posh is. 

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DezFox

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6 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Just reading through the thread on the Swansea forum and there's quite a lot of dislike for us, and not just anything relating to Martin. This post made me laugh...

 

They come across as a bit of a soulless unnecessarily posh club. Like Reading singing along to that Glee song at Wembley. The difference between them and Bradford at Wembley was palpable.

 

Posh :blink:

Apart from Michu they don’t even have an iconic player. They are literately anything club. 

Muzzy_no7

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20 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

We need an out and out striker, if we don’t get one before the window closes we won’t get promoted and the club will be in even more bother than we are in now.

 

I still cannot believe we haven’t got a proper striker in. 

 

 

Don’t worry we’ve got a Raspberry Ripple signing up as well as Cullen 😂

 

Im not gonna have a go at the geezers name without opening another tab but its the one from Luton who’s been injured for half a decade 

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