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Haven't Arsenal got 101 points according to that table?

32 x 3 = 96 + 5 = 101??

Even more deluded than I first thought.

 

yep.

 

And we should only have 53...

 

13x3 = 39

39 + 14 = 53.

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Guardian Sport

Talking tactics

 

 

Loved this but what was with that stupid jazz flute crappy background music ?  really any need ? he could have said what he wanted without that intrusion. 

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Thinking about it and browsing the LFLF forum, I do wonder why Forest fans are so precious about their team's success in the late 70ies when others compare our fairytale story to theirs?

I know the two titles cannot really be put on the same level due to contemporary/historic elements coming into play and individually, they are wonderful achievements in their own respect.

 

However, as a newly-promoted team, they spent the equivalent of £4m in today's money and broke the English transfer record a year later when they signed Trevor Francis for a then-unbelievable sum of a million quid (£5.6m today). So it's not like they thrived on Clough's training and motivation methods only.

And were there ever questions raised where that money came from? And weren't there accusations of the management (including Clough) accepting bungs surrounding transfers, too? Not that it was a rumour concerning Forest only back in the days, mind.

 

As for the "lucky Leicester" tag, at a time when football was played on far worse pitches and with much more intensity in terms of direct duels plus much more (and more "old-school") tackling involved, the 1977/1978 title-winning Forest side only used 17 players (including teenage goalkeeper Chris Woods only once) for the entire season!

 

And to think they thought some of our fans chanted "are you watching Nottingham" when it was clear they meant Tottenham (unless I missed something)...

Edited by MC Prussian
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I wouldn't worry too much about it Pruss, if their achievement was better then so be it. The media have been the ones comparing the two so let others decide which was more impressive or whatever. It's the best thing we've done and I'm so pleased to be have been around to witness it.

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Thinking about it and browsing the LFLF forum, I do wonder why Forest fans are so precious about their team's success in the late 70ies when others compare our fairytale story to theirs?

I know the two titles cannot really be put on the same level due to contemporary/historic elements coming into play and individually, they are wonderful achievements in their own respect.

 

However, as a newly-promoted team, they spent the equivalent of £4m in today's money and broke the English transfer record a year later when they signed Trevor Francis for a then-unbelievable sum of a million quid (£5.6m in today's money). So it's not like they only thrived on Clough's training and motivation methods only.

And were there ever questions raised where that money came from? And weren't there accusations of the management (including Clough) accepting bungs surrounding transfers, too? Not that it was a rumour concerning Forest only back in the days, mind.

 

As for the "lucky Leicester" tag, at a time when football was played on far worse pitches and with much more intensity in terms of direct duels plus much more (and more "old-school") tackling involved, the 1977/1978 title-winning Forest side only used 17 players (including teenage goalkeeper Chris Woods only once) for the entire season!

 

And to think they thought some of our fans chanted "are you watching Nottingham" when it was clear they meant Tottenham (unless I missed something)...

 

I agree with this. Forest were the fourth side to win the league within a few years of promotion since 1960. Ipswich, Liverpool and Derby all did it, there may even have been more. Their regular 11 cost 670K (Francis came later, but they did break a transfer record for a keeper with Shilton), compared to 2nd placed Liverpool's 960K and 3rd placed Everton's million-and-a-bit. So it was incredibly impressive, and the fact that Clough did it twice with different clubs (and then went on to win two European Cups, even though that was also a much, much smaller competition than it is now) is spectacular, but the budget comparisons were nowhere near as stark as our 25m regular starting line-up vs. Spurs' 95m, or Arsenal's / Man City's 200m+ starting 11s. And, of course, Forest had finished 3rd in the top flight within the preceding decade.

 

So Clough is a great, great boss for me, and I wouldn't want to argue Ranieri's case over his, but the singular achievement of us winning the league in this era is far more dramatic than it was back in 1978, when there was a great deal more mobility in the league.

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Both were outstanding English football achievements which will forever be in the history books. For me it's too hard to compare them both, football was different back then, different era. But, to be regarded as completing one of the greatest achievements in football, is still absolutely excellent and something to be hugely proud of. 

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Robbie Savage just tore apart a spurs fan on 606 just now, who was insisting that spurs were the best team this year. It was great radio.

Posted

"They only won 1-0!", "They only had one player", "They only had luck",

 

 

"They only had 11 more points!".

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What an incredible twazzock!!!

 

Absolutely LOVE the fact they finished behind Arsenal. Baffled as to why they ever thought they were involved in the title race!!

Hilarious

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He's peak radio phone-in idiot. Rings in ranting incoherent nonsense backed up by no facts and theories that can't be proved.

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caller - they're a one man team

 

Sav - 'Schmeichel, Huth, Morgan, Drinkwater, Kante'

 

caller - 'i don't count those as players'.

 

phenomenal stuff.

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