Happy Fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 BertLcfc BertLcfc Lee Clark and Keegan to become part of the new management team. Clark will take the team duties, keegan will oversee other things....
Filberts Treat Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 I've just heard this too from someone who works at the club.
STUHILL Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 This fills me with bit more confidence if it is him! Seems very motivated and took coaching badges in early 20s as he was set on a management career!!
cc_star Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Im not too bothered about the fact Hudders are still in league one. Keegan's experience along with Lee Clark's enthusiasm and determination could be a recipe for success. Im willing to give it a go. Anything for STABILITY What's this experience people talk about? I can only see negative experience, failure to deal with pressure (of which this job is get promoted yesterday or you're out) and bottler from the 2 best jobs he could have ever had, England & Newcastle (his dream jobs)
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 What's this experience people talk about? I can only see negative experience, failure to deal with pressure (of which this job is get promoted yesterday or you're out) and bottler from the 2 best jobs he could have ever had, England & Newcastle (his dream jobs) He's played at top level, managed England which is an experience in itself, guided Newcastle to 2nd in the prem, very close to 1st. Also worked at other decent teams e.g. Man City.
Filberts Treat Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Clark is a good appointment. And I think having keegan helping to run the club(not the team) is a good thing.
SpartakAnj Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Does this actually look like it going to happen? Blimey! I would actually welcome this move, it sounds alot more appealing then the thought of Keane or Davies! Clark and Keegan must know each other pretty well so this could just work. Still, directors of football are always a bit of a risk. MON would still be my number one choice but I think this move would be my second choice.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Lee Clark has done fairly well, not amazing but decent. Would be a good appointment but I'd still prefer Davies.
cc_star Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 He's played at top level, managed England which is an experience in itself, guided Newcastle to 2nd in the prem, very close to 1st. Also worked at other decent teams e.g. Man City. He's here because of his name, because of past achievements, which in football terms were in a different era... like Svennis He has the worst record of any permanent England manager He did well at Newcastle using the one thing he has motivational abilities until his lack of tactical knowledge was found out & it turned him into a bottler & a quitter, because of that he lacks credibility which undermines his once held motivation skills (although only about 4th or so choice) Would much prefer Clark on his own, DoF's work best as shadowy background figures, advising the board on football matters when they're in the public eye like Keegan will be it never seems to work
Foxestalc Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 The thing about keegan is - he's great if you don't let him anywhere near the tactical side of the game! Full of enthusiasm, will put smiles on people's faces (except beckfords probably, mardy sod), and has plenty of contacts, just not up to it in terms of day to day coaching and management - D.O.F. might be ideal - always saw him as a good assistant
m00nie Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 skys betting has re opened up... they stopped the market when they announced the story earlier.. maybe all still along way off yet then
inckley fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 What has experience at this level got to do with anything? Wenger was managing in a tinpot japanese league, fergie was managing in the scottish league before taking over the worlds largest club closer to home Brian Little & O'Neill 2 of our most successful managers hadn't managed at this level before taking us forward. you can either manage or you can't Realistically all a Dof does is interfere with manager's way of doing things until he gets the sack, with people clamouring for the DoF himself to be given the job before getting sacked himself Any appointment is risky & this is just about the riskiest of the lot, although not high up my list I'd rather Clark have got the job himself than have some big ego overshadowing him Agree with the sentiment but... Ferguson had no success in his first two seasons and was nearly fired. Our board requires a quicker return than that. As for Brian Little, he spent three years in this league before he got us up. As for O'Neill, he came from Norwich - in the same league we're in now - and was 8th I think at the time he left to join us, so he wasn't such a massive gamble. And we had a DoF the last time we reached the Premier League.
Happy Fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 I think the expectancy has now changed listening to Top's interview he states that if we reach the playoffs fine but if not then that would be fine.
Benji Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 My biggest worry with Clark is that he might not know how to deal with the big egos in the team/some might think "who the fk is this guy? At least with Keegan he might be able to bridge that gap.
inckley fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 He's here because of his name, because of past achievements, which in football terms were in a different era... like Svennis He has the worst record of any permanent England manager He did well at Newcastle using the one thing he has motivational abilities until his lack of tactical knowledge was found out & it turned him into a bottler & a quitter, because of that he lacks credibility which undermines his once held motivation skills Think this is a little unfair. He took Newcastle from the bottom of the Championship to 5th and 2nd in Premier League. He had funds, but he'll have funds here too if he comes. Then he won a promotion in a single season with at Fulham, then again in his first season with Man City before finishing in a UEFA place in his first season in the Prem (without massive funds, and in 2004 I think, meaning his success was a good few years more recent than Sven's last significant success in management). He was last in management in the Premier just three years ago, when he left after a ridiculous bust up with you know who, after a decent start to a season and keeping Newcastle up the year before. At club level in England it's a nearly impeccable record, more than anyone could say for Sven. As for the bottling - did O'Neill 'bottle it' when we failed to reach the UEFA places in 98 or lost the final in 99? Or lost the UEFA final with Celtic? Every manager loses out sometimes.
SpartakAnj Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Surely Keegan would provide the motivation and the occasional king up the arse and Clark the tactics. The more I think about this the more I like it.
inckley fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 And did I see somewhere that Steve McClaren (or someone equally awful) has a better England management record than Alf Ramsey? We judge these things on tournaments qualified for, and won. Keegan qualified for 1/1, Sven 3/3 and neither won anything. Both are proof that club management is very different to league management. And I daresay all England fans remember them more fondly than Revie, Taylor or McClaren. That said, I still have my doubts! More re: the 'is he just in it for the money?' suggestion someone on here made on Keegan, and the issue regarding Lee Clark - is he another Micky Adams? I tend to judge these guys who have success in lower leagues on how clued up they seem when interviewed (I never thought Adams / Allen etc. came across as very bright) - has anyone seen LC on TV? How does he come across? It worries me that my only memory of him is when he played for Sunderland and was photographed in a cup final with an anti Sunderland t-shirt on. That doesn't seem particularly dignified, or intelligent to me.
AjcW Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Oh also. Not sure if this has been mentioned but is this the same Keegan that had a mental break down and quit Newcastle and blamed it on not agreeing with the concept of a Director of Football????
Happy Fox Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 bbc_manish Manish Bhasin Spoke to Kevin Keegan 2nite about Leicester City rumours.He said "there's absolutely nothing in it' in a way that was totally genuine #lcfc 1 minute ago
SMX11 Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Great so there is nothing in this story as well. I think I am just going to ignore any of these threads until I see the manager with a shirt in his hand.
Jakemoore Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 bbc_manish Manish Bhasin Spoke to Kevin Keegan 2nite about Leicester City rumours.He said "there's absolutely nothing in it' in a way that was totally genuine #lcfc 1 minute ago Yeah, like he's gonna spill the beans about any potential offers at this stage. Until we've permission to speak to LC then nothing will be said in the open, and with twitter so popular, very little will be said other than to diffuse the situation. They're gonna play it down.
Webbo Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 BertLcfc BertLcfc Lee Clark and Keegan to become part of the new management team. Clark will take the team duties, keegan will oversee other things.... BertLcfc BertLcfc Mark Hughes in talks with #lcfc 1 minute ago
Kitchandro Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Hmmmmm. Are they both possibilities or is one story just rumours, Bert?
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