Mark_w Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 This is underwhelming given his age but anyone who thinks we don't need Koren or someone like him is ****ing clueless. We haven't had a good attacking playmaker for years. We finished 5th without one, so I don't see how you can say, anyone who thinks we don't need one is ****ing clueless. We might be better with a player like that in the side, but it's not a necessity.
Ric Flair Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It is astonishing that if Pearson is in the market for a new playmaker then why isn't he going for Buszacky instead, who is on a free transfer and a year younger? They are both superb at this level, but financially Buz would be a better acquisition. He'd come here as well.
KFS Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It is astonishing that if Pearson is in the market for a new playmaker then why isn't he going for Buszacky instead, who is on a free transfer and a year younger? They are both superb at this level, but financially Buz would be a better acquisition. He'd come here as well. This, this and this.
davieG Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 This. Why would we sign another CM when we have King Wellens Danns Drinkwater and James here already. If you remember when Pearson came back he clearly stated that we have to many CM,s at the club so therefore why would he go for Koren as we'd then be back in that same situation. As much as id like him here we all need to get into our heads THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Maybe because Wellens is out for months and after last season King is an unknown quantity. That's not to say we definitely need him but could be one reason, we don't know what the situation is on the ground so there could be other reasons.
teblin Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It is astonishing that if Pearson is in the market for a new playmaker then why isn't he going for Buszacky instead, who is on a free transfer and a year younger? They are both superb at this level, but financially Buz would be a better acquisition. He'd come here as well. He's work with koren before so would know he would be the right 'fit' in terms of personality is all I can think of.
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 This is underwhelming given his age but anyone who thinks we don't need Koren or someone like him is ****ing clueless. We haven't had a good attacking playmaker for years. I agree. Danns and King are not bad to be fair, and I expect Danns in particular to have a really good season. But Koren is a quality player at this level. It depends on how Pearson wants to set us out. If the plan is going to be quick play through the middle to get it into Beckford, then Koren would add to the team. If its going to be playing more down the flanks to cross it into big Futacs, Koren's addition wouldn't be as effective. Guess we'll see
Danno Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 The thing with our midfielders at the moment is they're all pretty average box to box defenders, no one particularly has a certain role or strength. You could say King has one but I think he's been found out now.
Danno Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Koren would be a great signing, he is a very good attacking midfielder at this level, he scores goals and would be equally as good threading through balls to Beckford or whoever upfront. I don't think any midfielder in our team is a very good passer apart from Wellens, but his legs are almost gone and I don't think he has what it takes to get us out of this league.
indierich06 Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 after last season King is an unknown quantity. That's a bit harsh. He's had three very good seasons since graduating from the academy and scored nearly 40 goals. One mediocre season, cut short by injury and people seem to be writing him off already? He's one of my favourite City players and I certainly think he'll have an important role to play this season.
Fox92 Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It is astonishing that if Pearson is in the market for a new playmaker then why isn't he going for Buszacky instead, who is on a free transfer and a year younger? They are both superb at this level, but financially Buz would be a better acquisition. He'd come here as well. I totally agree and the only thing that I can think of that puts Koren ahead of Buszacky is the fact that Pearson worked with Koren before, as teblin said.
TrentFox Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 The thing with our midfielders at the moment is they're all pretty average box to box defenders, no one particularly has a certain role or strength. You could say King has one but I think he's been found out now. That's an interesting point you make. Whilst there appears to be a back four that most on here would probably agree on, (if the signing of ZW is confirmed), we have no obvious starting midfield. There is no agreement in the threads about who our top midfield is. There is even disagreement about what the best formation is ! At one level, I think it's good that nobody is "guaranteed" a starting place, but I can't help feeling that there ought to be some who are 'almost certain to play' if fit. I guess that will emerge as the season progresses, but right now, I wouldn't want to predict the team for Posh.
Micky Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Has anybody actually confirmed that we are after Koren or is it all paper talk? I believe our midfield is lacking in quality but it is certainly not lacking in numbers.
deep blue Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 The thing with our midfielders at the moment is they're all pretty average box to box defenders, no one particularly has a certain role or strength. You could say King has one but I think he's been found out now. That's waht many say on here, but is it because we haven't seen enough of our players yet to form a view? Drinkwater hasn't played a large number of games and has ben played in different roles. Marshal has been deployed as a winger and as a free-running central playmaker. James is an unknown quantity to me, and probably to most other contributers. Wellens might come back, when he does, with renewed energy. We've probably forgotten Kingy's strengths, having seen so little of him playing to his full potential over the last season. I think our midfield's an unknown quantity and NP should have a far better idea, and a strategy, for melding them together as an effective unit. They may surprise us yet. I can see the logic behind a signing like Koren, though, threading through for Beckford and thus making him more effective. There are a lot of calls for a new left winger too, but do others think our real lack is an out & out right winger, given that Marshal may be better used more centrally, and other options (Vardy, Nugent) would be "wide players" rather than genuine wingers?
TrentFox Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 That's waht many say on here, but is it because we haven't seen enough of our players yet to form a view? Drinkwater hasn't played a large number of games and has ben played in different roles. Marshal has been deployed as a winger and as a free-running central playmaker. James is an unknown quantity to me, and probably to most other contributers. Wellens might come back, when he does, with renewed energy. We've probably forgotten Kingy's strengths, having seen so little of him playing to his full potential over the last season. I think our midfield's an unknown quantity and NP should have a far better idea, and a strategy, for melding them together as an effective unit. They may surprise us yet. I can see the logic behind a signing like Koren, though, threading through for Beckford and thus making him more effective. There are a lot of calls for a new left winger too, but do others think our real lack is an out & out right winger, given that Marshal may be better used more centrally, and other options (Vardy, Nugent) would be "wide players" rather than genuine wingers? Good points and very well made. I wonder if Beckford is part of the problem, though ... trying to find the right midfield balance that really allows us to capitalise on such a potential match-winner, but also compensating for his more obvious short-comings ??
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Good points and very well made. I wonder if Beckford is part of the problem, though ... trying to find the right midfield balance that really allows us to capitalise on such a potential match-winner, but also compensating for his more obvious short-comings ?? There is no point in keeping him if we don't play to his strengths Trent. His shortcomings are visible for all to see. If we play Beckford we must play a certain way to get the best out of him. For me, this neccessitates a really good passer of the ball.
TrentFox Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 There is no point in keeping him if we don't play to his strengths Trent. His shortcomings are visible for all to see. If we play Beckford we must play a certain way to get the best out of him. For me, this neccessitates a really good passer of the ball. That's kind of my point, Col. If we play JB, we have to play to his strengths not his weaknesses, (which we were very guilty of getting wrong last season). But finding that balance that allows us to do that is complicated. There are several good passers in our squad, but at no point last season did we find the balance between creativity and defensive solidity.*Just realising we've left any news about RK, (mainly because there isn't any), waaaaaay behind and gone back to ....... well, no surprises for guessing who ! Sorry.
davieG Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 That's a bit harsh. He's had three very good seasons since graduating from the academy and scored nearly 40 goals. One mediocre season, cut short by injury and people seem to be writing him off already? He's one of my favourite City players and I certainly think he'll have an important role to play this season. Mine too but he's still an unknown quantity but I guess that could apply to half the squad.
Bert Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 It is astonishing that if Pearson is in the market for a new playmaker then why isn't he going for Buszacky instead, who is on a free transfer and a year younger? They are both superb at this level, but financially Buz would be a better acquisition. He'd come here as well. Thought I'd heard Buzasky had gone to Bristol city. Could be well wrong though.
Leicfox Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Thought I'd heard Buzasky had gone to Bristol city. Could be well wrong though. I think Forest have joined the race to sign him so Bristol City look set to lose out. Good player though.
Danno Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Thought I'd heard Buzasky had gone to Bristol city. Could be well wrong though. Bristol fvcking City?
Guest Bilo Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 Bristol fvcking City? They're massive, don't you remember the Maynard threads?
Out Foxed Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 koren and boozackee would equal auto playoff spots.
AKCJ Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 koren and boozackee would equal auto playoff spots. They're really not THAT (I agree they're better than what we've got) special. Which is why one has been released and the other can be bought for 500k
Out Foxed Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 They're really not THAT (I agree they're better than what we've got) special. Which is why one has been released and the other can be bought for 500k they're twice the similar players of our midfield currently james unproven king needs to bounce back from last season wellens injured/only turns up half the time if nige is gonna play marshall on the wing that is and just for clarification it's not these players = auto playoff spot (which is tongue in cheek anyway a la matt mills) it's these players complimenting what we have already.
Danno Posted 23 July 2012 Posted 23 July 2012 koren and boozackee would equal auto playoff spots. No they really wouldn't.
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