Manwell Pablo Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Since when is 50 young??? In managerial terms it's hardly old.
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 I do recall that I said, before the start of LAST season that I expected the team to push for promotion not last season, but this. Then I went and blew it by calling for Pearson out near the end of last season.
Captain... Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 They seem to CURRENTLY be right. Just as those that criticised him were absolutely right to do so during one of the worst runs in the club's history. What they don't seem to understand though is that the gloating of being right sets them up for a fall ..... No they weren't, something happened to turn the form team in the country to the worst, and I very much doubt it was Pearson rotating the squad for a meaningless FA cup tie. Something happened that caused the drop in form, nobody knows exactly what, but there was info posted on here of a dispute over the imbalance of pay between Sven signings and Pearson signings. Which if true is nothing to do with Pearson. Of course the manager has to take responsibility for the performance on the pitch, but he wasn't doing anything significantly different to what got us into second. Now you can choose to focus on that poor run of form that saw us scrape into the play-offs I choose to look at the 2 long unbeaten runs we went on, the great performances that didn't always give us the points we deserved. That was last season, this season we are once again looking like a very strong team, with the same players and manager, so again it shows that the criticism was wrong. The most disgusting was the crap over the summer rather than looking forward and starting again, it was just hate and vitriol from a number of very vocal posters. Finally, they were not right to criticise in the way they did, as the relationship with the manager and the fans is at an all time low, and a few good results is not going to make the players that were on the receiving end forget about it, Marshall has left the club as he didn't want to play for us, wonder why, Drinkwater and Gallagher celebrate by cupping their ears, Konchesky had an argument with a fan and was quite happy to move on. Some of our fans have been a disgrace recently and now we are on a good run again the response is "Don't gloat it won't last" whether that is how it is meant or not it very much comes across like there are people on here just waiting for NP to fail.
hackneyfox Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 The players must be delicate little flowers if they get upset by the minimal amount of abuse they receive whilst playing. Actors are told to never read their own press, well the same should apply with players and chat pages. They all set up twitter accounts to massage their own egos by having people follow them and then get upset when surprise, surprise some dick has a go at them. There' enough school kids that get abuse on twitter so I'm not sure what else a 'name' should expect.
woznotwos Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Football is all about the ''present'' not the past (UNLESS YOUR A TREE HUGGER) . Over the moon with this start , keep it going lads!! Im enjoying the feeling while it lasts!!
Captain... Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 The players must be delicate little flowers if they get upset by the minimal amount of abuse they receive whilst playing. Actors are told to never read their own press, well the same should apply with players and chat pages. They all set up twitter accounts to massage their own egos by having people follow them and then get upset when surprise, surprise some dick has a go at them. There' enough school kids that get abuse on twitter so I'm not sure what else a 'name' should expect. The players don't need to read on here or be on twitter to get abuse, they get it every match day and it is not minimal, just because you don't hear it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have no idea what was said to Konchesky or Marshall or Drinkwater to make them react like that but it is clearly not nothing. Now maybe you are right they shouldn't get upset or care what the fans think, although I'm sure you would be the first to criticise players for not caring, but you can see when players love playing for a club and the fans, they try a bit harder, put in that extra effort and vibe off the reaction, when you aren't getting anything off the fans you stop putting in the effort and play within yourself, especially if you know that you will get criticism for any mistake, so you take no risks and play safe sideways passes. Where Pearson should be credited is that he is getting the players to put in the performances despite the fans, not for them, hopefully the relationship with the fans will improve, but when certain "fans" can't even give him, or the players, credit for their achievements and still harp on to that poor run of form I'm not holding my breath.
Corky Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 The players don't need to read on here or be on twitter to get abuse, they get it every match day and it is not minimal, just because you don't hear it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have no idea what was said to Konchesky or Marshall or Drinkwater to make them react like that but it is clearly not nothing. No-one is quite sure why Drinkwater is acting the way he is, as I've never heard much abuse/ criticism being directed at him.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Me too .... but as someone that has criticised NP I'm conveniently pigeon holed as a "Hater" .... Fact is, I don't warm to him much as a bloke, but he seems to have done alot of work on his weaknesses over the summer ..... And he appears to have learnt some lessons from last season. That's great and is good news ..... I recognise that and welcome it, and am happy to change my mind as it continues. But the closed minded Lovers will gloat and see that pragmatism and flexibility as proof that they were always right and will gloat ... that's what i find irritating. Forgetting your feelings on NP for one moment though, surely you could see that stability is the key and the fundamental thing we've been missing?
Captain... Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 No-one is quite sure why Drinkwater is acting the way he is, as I've never heard much abuse/ criticism being directed at him. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I didn't hear what was said to Konch or Marshall either.
Corky Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I didn't hear what was said to Konch or Marshall either. The Marshall incident was at Barnsley, told the fans where to go (after being given similar by the supporters).
hackneyfox Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 No-one is quite sure why Drinkwater is acting the way he is, as I've never heard much abuse/ criticism being directed at him. Exactly, sounds as if the abuse is from a very small section of the ground, I've never heard personal abuse thrown at players just moans when a pass goes astray but that has ALWAYS happened. If they think that fans will be different at other clubs then they are deluded.
sylofox Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Praps he should be hated because he kept soton up and we went down
5waller5 Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Forgetting your feelings on NP for one moment though, surely you could see that stability is the key and the fundamental thing we've been missing? I can see that stability helps to achieve a long term aim if the support is given to a manager with the right vision and the right ability to see it through. So it's hard to seperate the fact that I didn't think that person was NP ..... give someone longer - but for me we were giving the wrong man longer. But I accepted the fact that he was here for the season at the start of this season and think that's the case - so I'll be behind him this season ..... I genuinely hope stability is the right thing for us to have done and that sticking with NP is too ..... I'm a LCFC fan - if he is successful here then happy days. I'm just not a blindly loyal NP fan, if he looks like the wrong man for the job then i'd say so. Right now ... good start - and fair play to him for seemingly learning some crucial lessons from last season.
5waller5 Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 In managerial terms it's hardly old. It's neither young nor old ..... It's a pretty average age ..... so the "he's a young manager" drum kinda annoys me as an excuse for tactical weakness (which i accept he seems to not now need as an excuse - so why bother with it!!!).
Strokes Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 If we all shared the same opinions forums like this wouldn't exist. The stupud thing is, we all want the same thing really.
5waller5 Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 If we all shared the same opinions forums like this wouldn't exist. The stupud thing is, we all want the same thing really. Exactly. And it actually becomes quieter the nearer everyone's opinions become .... right now with the start we are enjoying there's not much to say apart from "well done" .... Good for LCFC, not necessarily good for a forum!!!
The Year Of The Fox Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 I can see that stability helps to achieve a long term aim if the support is given to a manager with the right vision and the right ability to see it through. So it's hard to seperate the fact that I didn't think that person was NP ..... give someone longer - but for me we were giving the wrong man longer. But I accepted the fact that he was here for the season at the start of this season and think that's the case - so I'll be behind him this season ..... I genuinely hope stability is the right thing for us to have done and that sticking with NP is too ..... I'm a LCFC fan - if he is successful here then happy days. I'm just not a blindly loyal NP fan, if he looks like the wrong man for the job then i'd say so. Right now ... good start - and fair play to him for seemingly learning some crucial lessons from last season. Its hard to think back to when FFP came to light. It may have been just before we got rid of Sven. If that was the case we all realise now that carrying on under Svens reign with expensive signings etc simply wasn't a feasible option. I've not read your reasons for not liking/doubting Pearson but I disregard anyones dislike on him if the only thing they dislike is his dourness in an interview or that he doesn't speak candidly about behind the scenes goings on. Because its really of little importance to us. I've seen people on this forum who have previously slagged him off for not coming out (and sending Shakey out) to do the post match interview after a victory. I too am an LCFC fan and shall support anyone in charge of us. But when I believe NP is the best thing for City its hard to not defend him. On a side note there's a caretaker at one of the schools I've been at over the summer. STH at City. He was scathing of Pearson over the summer and wanted him gone. Anyway it was nice to see him yesterday and jokily 'told him so' He still told me despite our recent form he'd been booing Pearson on Tuesday night, singing; 'Pearson out Shakey in' Absolutely unbelievable.
5waller5 Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Its hard to think back to when FFP came to light. It may have been just before we got rid of Sven. If that was the case we all realise now that carrying on under Svens reign with expensive signings etc simply wasn't a feasible option. I've not read your reasons for not liking/doubting Pearson but I disregard anyones dislike on him if the only thing they dislike is his dourness in an interview or that he doesn't speak candidly about behind the scenes goings on. Because its really of little importance to us. I've seen people on this forum who have previously slagged him off for not coming out (and sending Shakey out) to do the post match interview after a victory. I too am an LCFC fan and shall support anyone in charge of us. But when I believe NP is the best thing for City its hard to not defend him. On a side note there's a caretaker at one of the schools I've been at over the summer. STH at City. He was scathing of Pearson over the summer and wanted him gone. Anyway it was nice to see him yesterday and jokily 'told him so' He still told me despite our recent form he'd been booing Pearson on Tuesday night, singing; 'Pearson out Shakey in' Absolutely unbelievable. Unfortunately football is not blessed with the most rational and intelligent people in it's stadia sometimes!!!!!
Tielemans63 Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 I'm loving the start we made and I'm a fan of Pearson but its very early days. Last season should have taught us not to get too carried away too soon.
Leicester_Numan Posted 21 September 2013 Posted 21 September 2013 Its hard to think back to when FFP came to light. It may have been just before we got rid of Sven. If that was the case we all realise now that carrying on under Svens reign with expensive signings etc simply wasn't a feasible option. I've not read your reasons for not liking/doubting Pearson but I disregard anyones dislike on him if the only thing they dislike is his dourness in an interview or that he doesn't speak candidly about behind the scenes goings on. Because its really of little importance to us. I've seen people on this forum who have previously slagged him off for not coming out (and sending Shakey out) to do the post match interview after a victory. I too am an LCFC fan and shall support anyone in charge of us. But when I believe NP is the best thing for City its hard to not defend him. On a side note there's a caretaker at one of the schools I've been at over the summer. STH at City. He was scathing of Pearson over the summer and wanted him gone. Anyway it was nice to see him yesterday and jokily 'told him so' He still told me despite our recent form he'd been booing Pearson on Tuesday night, singing; 'Pearson out Shakey in' Absolutely unbelievable. FFP was confirmed after we reappointed Pearson so although he was brought in to get football matters and finances under control, the nature of his job changed very quickly
sylofox Posted 21 September 2013 Posted 21 September 2013 Urmmmmmm found em all. The haters seem to be sat in the GTF thread slagging off our new boy.
Bryn Posted 21 September 2013 Posted 21 September 2013 I was chatting with my Dad and my uncles about this, apparently Leicester City has always had an above average number of utter whingers amongst the ranks, I guess the internet means you now just have to suffer it all week as opposed to just on a Saturday afternoon.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 21 September 2013 Posted 21 September 2013 I can see that stability helps to achieve a long term aim if the support is given to a manager with the right vision and the right ability to see it through. So it's hard to seperate the fact that I didn't think that person was NP ..... give someone longer - but for me we were giving the wrong man longer. But I accepted the fact that he was here for the season at the start of this season and think that's the case - so I'll be behind him this season ..... I genuinely hope stability is the right thing for us to have done and that sticking with NP is too ..... I'm a LCFC fan - if he is successful here then happy days. I'm just not a blindly loyal NP fan, if he looks like the wrong man for the job then i'd say so. Right now ... good start - and fair play to him for seemingly learning some crucial lessons from last season. Well said, and agree. Problems appear to arise from people who like Pearson, and label anyone who questions his ability, "a Pearson hater" The fool who started this irrelevant thread, is typical of one, and on a wind up. We are merely seven games into the season, and if things change, he will be one of those responsible for the backlash that will follow. We all want Pearson to take our club up, and are all behind him, so far.
seenitall Posted 23 September 2013 Posted 23 September 2013 I hope he gets us up this season as that seems the only way to get rid of him..... Ten games into a Prem season and no points and we might get someone else...still, I won't hold my breath, the stability hunters probably want us to stay down so we can keep Nige forever, nice little play off semi every couple of years keeps us happy..... Seriously though, there is no point just keep saying how great he is on here, even if I believed it - this is a similar start to last season and I wish him well, I just don't necessarily have the confidence yet that we can keep it up or that all the teams that are going to challenge have hit their stride yet. Reckon as ever the first real signs will come around Xmas, but even that can fool you. Don't worry Nige fans, I am sure the board will liven up if we hit a bad patch.
deanolegend1989 Posted 24 September 2013 Posted 24 September 2013 At the end of the day, the people who backed Pearson thoroughly and never doubted him(Like me), just know what they are talking about because we arnt knee-jerk. Oh and no im not just saying it because the way we have started...he has been class for us ever since 2008 and Ive always rated the bloke. He has made some mistakes, but this is the best bloody era weve had for over a decade. He took us from the wilderness, made us fun to watch and gave us a sound footing to kick on to bigger things. I said last season in Jan/Feb time..'Even if we dont get promoted this season, as long as we aint struggling for relegation, Pearson should stay'. I still agree with that this year...even if we dont make playoffs this year Id keep him again. Hes a top bloke and a top manager, he will get it right..whether its this season, the next or the one after that! I firmly believe we will return quicker to the EPL than if we keep changing managers and having transitional seasons. Patience is the key...all these clubs who consistently change managers for little to no success(even get worse)..I really dont get some peoples logic. I tell you what if he gets us into the EPL(after all the 'crap' hes had) and then keeps us there then he will truly go down as a Legend. After getting us up from league 1 and making us consistently competitive back at this level..to then get us promoted and then keep us there..it will go down as legend status. Id love this to happen and IMO 99% sure it would happen given patience.
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