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Posted

Dont get it David Nugent works hard for our football club and in the prem i am sure he will continue to prove that he is top class

I'm hoping that should we go up we won't be playing him regularly, if at all.

Posted

If we are ignoring his 6 penalties, can we please include his 5 assists so: 

 

4  League goals from Open play, 5 League Penalties, 4 Assists in the league

 

and an assist and a penalty in the cup.

 

So he has had direct involvement in half our 26 league goals.

 

Imagine what we could do if he actually tried.

Posted

With some fans cup goals didn't count for beckford now for Nugent penalties don't count.

lol

Next headers won't count because it was the winger who crossed it and tap ins won't count because someone else passed the ball to them

lol lunacy!!

Posted

I'm sure he wouldn't have paid the wage you've 'speculated' it to be.

Not having a go at you hf.

 

But when it comes to wages we all speculate no one on here knows whatever they think they know.

 

Would NP have paid him what he is on. We will never know.

 

Like the age old It's svens fault these players are on obscene wages.

 

We all asume it was his fault and so easy to blame him.

 

Like we all asume NP has done a good job clearing the decks.

 

None of us know he may have been given a list of players that had to go.

Just as Sven may have been told who do you want we will get them at whatever cost.

 

We all asume we know or believe we know but no one on here really knows anything.

None have seen a contract or sat in a meeting with Top & co.

Posted

Not having a go at you hf.

But when it comes to wages we all speculate no one on here knows whatever they think they know.

Would NP have paid him what he is on. We will never know.

Like the age old It's svens fault these players are on obscene wages.

We all asume it was his fault and so easy to blame him.

Like we all asume NP has done a good job clearing the decks.

None of us know he may have been given a list of players that had to go.

Just as Sven may have been told who do you want we will get them at whatever cost.

We all asume we know or believe we know but no one on here really knows anything.

None have seen a contract or sat in a meeting with Top & co.

It's an interesting point about would Pearson of paid him... and you're right about no one TRULY knows...

Not so sure if he would pay him what Seven did, but at the same time I haven't seen him object to his wage either like he did with SSL...

Let's not forget that Nugent was signed on a free which can often get a player a higher than average wage...

Not having a go at you hf.

But when it comes to wages we all speculate no one on here knows whatever they think they know.

Would NP have paid him what he is on. We will never know.

Like the age old It's svens fault these players are on obscene wages.

We all asume it was his fault and so easy to blame him.

Like we all asume NP has done a good job clearing the decks.

None of us know he may have been given a list of players that had to go.

Just as Sven may have been told who do you want we will get them at whatever cost.

We all asume we know or believe we know but no one on here really knows anything.

None have seen a contract or sat in a meeting with Top & co.

It's an interesting point about would Pearson of paid him... and you're right about no one TRULY knows...

Not so sure if he would pay him what Seven did, but at the same time I haven't seen him object to his wage either like he did with SSL...

Let's not forget that Nugent was signed on a free which can often get a player a higher than average wage...

Posted

Gone are them days.

Annoys me when people say this. Do you really think our £400 season pays Nugents wages?

Perhaps our £400 ST doesn't pay a players wages anymore but without fans going in there thousands for years,I don't think sky and all the rest would pump the money in,and then in turn no foreign investment.A game behind closed doors wouldn't appeal to anybody,even armchair fans would soon find something else to watch.
Guest Basildon Fox
Posted

I understand what people are saying about the booing & criticising of players but when is it acceptable to boo?  What would happen if the whole team played shite for months (like the back end of last season).  Do people still clap them off at the end of poor performance after poor performance? Is that not showing an acceptance of failure?

 

I do think that if it is ok to praise them when doing well then it is ok to give them a bit of flack if they are not performing.  They get paid a lot of money to play football for a living, most of our squad earn more in a month than most people earn in a year, some earn more in a week than most earn in a year.  It goes with the job of being a high profile footballer.

Posted

I understand what people are saying about the booing & criticising of players but when is it acceptable to boo?  What would happen if the whole team played shite for months (like the back end of last season).  Do people still clap them off at the end of poor performance after poor performance? Is that not showing an acceptance of failure?

 

I do think that if it is ok to praise them when doing well then it is ok to give them a bit of flack if they are not performing.  They get paid a lot of money to play football for a living, most of our squad earn more in a month than most people earn in a year, some earn more in a week than most earn in a year.  It goes with the job of being a high profile footballer.

 

Agree with the money argument, but it's irrelevant.

 

Booing/giving flak to the players directly doesn't make them play better and could make them play worse, therefore it's not in the best interests of the club, therefore fans shouldn't do it. Logic. 

Guest Basildon Fox
Posted

Agree with the money argument, but it's irrelevant.

 

Booing/giving flak to the players directly doesn't make them play better and could make them play worse, therefore it's not in the best interests of the club, therefore fans shouldn't do it. Logic. 

 

But logic would also suggest that by not telling someone they are not pulling there weight or performing poorly they are less likely to do anything about it.  When you play football in front of 20,000 fans and get paid hansomely for it you have to take the rough with the smooth surely?  Again what is the alternative - happy clap a player/team no matter what? Where do you think an acceptance of substandard performance week in week out would take the team?  Would they respond to that more than some deserved flack? Of course not.

Posted

With some fans cup goals didn't count for beckford now for Nugent penalties don't count.

lol

Next headers won't count because it was the winger who crossed it and tap ins won't count because someone else passed the ball to them

lol lunacy!!

You are totally missing the point,all people were saying is that beside his penalties his overall performances have been poor,when a player of his quality should be doing a lot more,that's not moaning ,just seeing it as it is.

All i want to see is Nuge getting back to the level of football that he is capable off.

Posted

But logic would also suggest that by not telling someone they are not pulling there weight or performing poorly they are less likely to do anything about it. When you play football in front of 20,000 fans and get paid hansomely for it you have to take the rough with the smooth surely? Again what is the alternative - happy clap a player/team no matter what? Where do you think an acceptance of substandard performance week in week out would take the team? Would they respond to that more than some deserved flack? Of course not.

Who says that they not being told they are performing poorly? That what Pearson is paid for. Additionally, booing and abuse at the ground is hardly the kind of constructive criticism a player needs to pick up his form. Sort of my point really - the utter tripe that some people come out with at the ground and via Twitter isn't going to help the players because it's not in any way constructive.All it might do is lower their morale and from that their form further.

I'm just looking at it in a way that yes, the fans have the right to boo and get on the players backs, but doing so actually serves no useful purpose for their form or that ofthe club. If they're not pulling their weight Pearson and the other staff will tell them in a constructive fashion, rather than a group of morons booing and yelling "*insert player here*, you're shit, take him off!".

All in all, I think a player or the team taking flak after a defeat helps the teams form for the next game as much as being clapped off after a defeat -bugger all.

Posted

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/ll-sacrifice-ndash-Leicester-City-s-David-Nugent/story-20232960-detail/story.html

 

 

Leicester City striker David Nugent said he is prepared to sacrifice his bid to break the 20-goal barrier for the sake of the promotion push.

Nugent is still City's top scorer this season with 10 goals, and added two to his tally at Ipswich last Saturday.

But he has predominantly played a deeper role this season and six of his strikes have come from the penalty spot.

Nugent admits the deeper-lying role has restricted the number of chances that fall his way, but said he is happy to play whatever role manager Nigel Pearson asks of him, if it helps City's cause.

"When teams come to our place they always play with a sitting central midfielder, so it is my job to drop in and stop him playing from deep," said Nugent.

"Then I try to get on the ball and feed the wingers and whoever is up top with me.

"I am kind of sacrificing my game for the team, which I am enjoying doing. I think it is working out well.

"I will play anywhere on the pitch. I am an out-and-out striker, but you could see at Watford when we beat them that I was basically in line with Andy King and Danny Drinkwater in midfield.

"We were getting pegged back a bit and I was happy to do a job for the team.

"When I do drop in it stops the opposition from playing and it seems to be working.

"The fans don't necessarily see that. The fans just want strikers to score goals, but I am doing this for the team.

"They have asked me to do a job and whatever they say goes."

Pearson said Nugent was a selfless member of the squad who always gave his best, regardless of what was asked of him.

"Nuge has played a number of different roles in my time at the club and you always get 100 per cent commitment from him," said the City boss. "That is important to have.

"He is one of our senior players at 28. I think it is important to recognise that he is a player that other players look to."


 

Posted

He/and posters on here say he is on for his usual goal tally of 15+, he got that in previous years without pens but now it's okay if he only gets 15 goals with pens?

 

What planet do some people live on?

 

Goals are goals are goals. If Nugent finishes the season with 15-20 goals, I won't give a lusty **** how he got them. If he scores 10 from the spot, they'll still all count in the goals scored column, they'll still all contribute to us getting points on the board, just the same as if he'd scored 10 screamers.

People keep saying 'oh, but if we hadn't taken those penalties, he'd only have x amount of goals' - it's completely irrelevent, as we did get the penalties, and he scored them.

Posted

The point is that in the past someone else took the penalties and on top of those penalties we had a striker scoring 15 from open play.

 

The piece about him playing deeper is more relevant though.

Posted

The point is that in the past someone else took the penalties and on top of those penalties we had a striker scoring 15 from open play.

The piece about him playing deeper is more relevant though.

But if the season finishes and he's got 15-20 goals, does it matter how he scored them? Absolutely not.

People were banging on about how brilliant it would be to have a striker like Glen Murray last season, when half of his goals were pens.

Posted

It would matter if he scored 20 including 12 penalties when last season he scored 15 and someone else scored the penalties.

 

The whole point is that the penalties should come on top of the normal 15 but to be fair he's playing a deeper role this season which means he's unlikely to get the 15 from open play that he normally gets. Many on here seem to have missed the fact he's playing a different role this season but he does apopear to have missed more sitters this year.

Posted

Seems to me that there are a lot of people that want to criticise a player who already has 9 league goals, for no good reason.

Are they Florists in disguise! A team who's so called star strikers Cox & Mackie have 3 & 2 each. Or is it City fans that are

just being nitpicking & unrealistic. Why can't we just get behind a man that genuinely tries in every game and when he's not

song creates chances for others. OK we all pay our money, but why use that as an excuse to bring people down. How about

real 'support' for a change.

Posted

Seems to me that there are a lot of people that want to criticise a player who already has 9 league goals, for no good reason.

Are they Florists in disguise! A team who's so called star strikers Cox & Mackie have 3 & 2 each. Or is it City fans that are

just being nitpicking & unrealistic. Why can't we just get behind a man that genuinely tries in every game and when he's not

song creates chances for others. OK we all pay our money, but why use that as an excuse to bring people down. How about

real 'support' for a change.

This is a board for discussing players pros and cons.

 

The ground is where you support the players.

Posted

Agree with Leicsmac, we are not there to judge his performances that is the manager's job to assess how well he has performed in his given role. If you're manager tells you to do something and your customers don't like it, do you think it is fair that you cop flack for doing what you've been instructed.

Regarding the penalties debate.

We also have to factor in that they still count as a goal and change the way a game is being played. Take the last game Nugent got a penalty, Barnsley. That goal put us 2-0 up if we hadn't scored that penalty, we would have continued pushing for a second, creating more chances for Nugent. But we didn't we sat back, got punished then saw out the game, with Nugent contributing to the team performance rather than seeking out more goals and personal glory.

I'm just going to say it again as it seems to be missed Nugent has had a direct involvement in half our goals this season, considering we have won many games by a solitary goal we take away his goals and assists and penalties we would be mid table.

We aren't we are top and nobody has contributed more to us being top than Nugent.

Posted

This is a board for discussing players pros and cons.

 

The ground is where you support the players.

Sorry, but I thought that's what I'd done with my comparisons with Cox & Mackie.

And surely the lack of support at the ground is the crux of the matter!

Posted

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/ll-sacrifice-ndash-Leicester-City-s-David-Nugent/story-20232960-detail/story.html

 

 

Leicester City striker David Nugent said he is prepared to sacrifice his bid to break the 20-goal barrier for the sake of the promotion push.

Nugent is still City's top scorer this season with 10 goals, and added two to his tally at Ipswich last Saturday.

But he has predominantly played a deeper role this season and six of his strikes have come from the penalty spot.

Nugent admits the deeper-lying role has restricted the number of chances that fall his way, but said he is happy to play whatever role manager Nigel Pearson asks of him, if it helps City's cause.

"When teams come to our place they always play with a sitting central midfielder, so it is my job to drop in and stop him playing from deep," said Nugent.

"Then I try to get on the ball and feed the wingers and whoever is up top with me.

"I am kind of sacrificing my game for the team, which I am enjoying doing. I think it is working out well.

"I will play anywhere on the pitch. I am an out-and-out striker, but you could see at Watford when we beat them that I was basically in line with Andy King and Danny Drinkwater in midfield.

"We were getting pegged back a bit and I was happy to do a job for the team.

"When I do drop in it stops the opposition from playing and it seems to be working.

"The fans don't necessarily see that. The fans just want strikers to score goals, but I am doing this for the team.

"They have asked me to do a job and whatever they say goes."

Pearson said Nugent was a selfless member of the squad who always gave his best, regardless of what was asked of him.

"Nuge has played a number of different roles in my time at the club and you always get 100 per cent commitment from him," said the City boss. "That is important to have.

"He is one of our senior players at 28. I think it is important to recognise that he is a player that other players look to."

 

 

Never let the facts get in the way of some player bashing eh?

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