muzzy1981 Posted 12 February 2014 Posted 12 February 2014 One game at a time please, can't cope with all these calculations and the bookies never get it wrong talk.
Steven Posted 14 February 2014 Posted 14 February 2014 One game at a time please, can't cope with all these calculations and the bookies never get it wrong talk. The only thing I ask is no Stringer like speculation please.
norfolkfox222 Posted 17 February 2014 Author Posted 17 February 2014 Worked this out yesterday, the Maximum amount of points we need for promotion is 35 providing QPR (3rd) win all their remaining games, I will be working this out week by week as im sure QPR wont be winning every game, just nice to get some actual facts now.
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Worked this out yesterday, the Maximum amount of points we need for promotion is 35 providing QPR (3rd) win all their remaining games, I will be working this out week by week as im sure QPR wont be winning every game, just nice to get some actual facts now. how did you come up with 35 points? Are you assuming also that Burnley win all there games apart from against QPR?
norfolkfox222 Posted 17 February 2014 Author Posted 17 February 2014 how did you come up with 35 points? Are you assuming also that Burnley win all there games apart from against QPR? yep obviously its the worst case scenario, just nice to know what the maximum amount of points is we need, hopefully it will decrease very quickly with us winning and them losing.
StanSP Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 My boss at work (Arsenal fan, extremely happy) says that promotion is virtually sealed, no sign of implosion. He also said we're 10 points clear (7 with a game in hand, he says we'll beat Forest ). Not only will it be 10 points clear of 2nd, it'll be 14 points clear of 3rd. Obviously I've looked at the table time and time again and smiled to myself at how good it's going. But it's only when he mentioned that we could be 14 points clear of 2nd and that not only would we 'have to drop 14 points...QPR would also need to gain 14 points'. Can anyone see that happening simultaneously? Will we drop enough points (or not gain enough) and will other teams take advantage? They didn't take advantage this weekend and we didn't even play. Our recent good is not only a superb reflection of our desire, hunger, resilience and motivation, but it's also magnifies that no other team could keep up with us. It's all looking rosy - I don't want to get ahead of myself and Wednesday we could suffer a bump back to reality. I hope these aren't famous last words and I don't want to come across as counting chickens before they hatch, but not only will it take a monumental effort for us to cock it up, but I think it'll also take a monumental effort for others to not only catch us, but get further away from us to get the cushion we have now.
harpendenfox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 StanSP, on 17 Feb 2014 - 09:42 AM, said: My boss at work (Arsenal fan, extremely happy) says that promotion is virtually sealed, no sign of implosion. He also said we're 10 points clear (7 with a game in hand, he says we'll beat Forest ). Not only will it be 10 points clear of 2nd, it'll be 14 points clear of 3rd. Obviously I've looked at the table time and time again and smiled to myself at how good it's going. But it's only when he mentioned that we could be 14 points clear of 2nd and that not only would we 'have to drop 14 points...QPR would also need to gain 14 points'. Can anyone see that happening simultaneously? Will we drop enough points (or not gain enough) and will other teams take advantage? They didn't take advantage this weekend and we didn't even play. Our recent good is not only a superb reflection of our desire, hunger, resilience and motivation, but it's also magnifies that no other team could keep up with us. It's all looking rosy - I don't want to get ahead of myself and Wednesday we could suffer a bump back to reality. I hope these aren't famous last words and I don't want to come across as counting chickens before they hatch, but not only will it take a monumental effort for us to cock it up, but I think it'll also take a monumental effort for others to not only catch us, but get further away from us to get the cushion we have now. I'm with you, I think you're absolutely right, but I will not be counting your chickens, or indeed mine.
Happy Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 My boss at work (Arsenal fan, extremely happy) says that promotion is virtually sealed, no sign of implosion. He also said we're 10 points clear (7 with a game in hand, he says we'll beat Forest ). Not only will it be 10 points clear of 2nd, it'll be 14 points clear of 3rd. Obviously I've looked at the table time and time again and smiled to myself at how good it's going. But it's only when he mentioned that we could be 14 points clear of 2nd and that not only would we 'have to drop 14 points...QPR would also need to gain 14 points'. Can anyone see that happening simultaneously? Will we drop enough points (or not gain enough) and will other teams take advantage? They didn't take advantage this weekend and we didn't even play. Our recent good is not only a superb reflection of our desire, hunger, resilience and motivation, but it's also magnifies that no other team could keep up with us. It's all looking rosy - I don't want to get ahead of myself and Wednesday we could suffer a bump back to reality. I hope these aren't famous last words and I don't want to come across as counting chickens before they hatch, but not only will it take a monumental effort for us to cock it up, but I think it'll also take a monumental effort for others to not only catch us, but get further away from us to get the cushion we have now. It won't depends on whether Sheffield Wednesday beat the sheepshaggers this Tuesday.
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 dont forget derby play tuesday so if they win they go 3rd on 58 points so we could be looking at 14 ahead of QPR in 3rd or 12 ahead of DERBY. If Derby win and we lose we will only b a measly 9 points ahead of 3rd
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 yep obviously its the worst case scenario, just nice to know what the maximum amount of points is we need, hopefully it will decrease very quickly with us winning and them losing. If QPR win all there games they end up on 104 If Burnley win all apart from against QPR they can end up on 102 If we gain maximum 35 then we r on 102 therefore we could drop to 3rd by goal difference so i think 36 points is maximum required unless ive missed something (Sorry for being a awkward F*****)
StanSP Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 I'm with you, I think you're absolutely right, but I will not be counting your chickens, or indeed mine. There will be no chickens counted until there's a P or C next to our name in the table!
Happy Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 So in 12 games time we will get promotion that is the worst case scenario best case scenario is 7 games. So somewhere between 7-12 games we will get promotion I reckon 9. Sheffield Wednesday at home.
Foxes Blue Blood Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Just for fun, if all teams continued the same form as in the last 6 games the table would finish like this :- Leicester City Nottingham Forest Burnley Derby County QPR Reading Wigan Athletic Brighton & Hove Albion Watford Ipswich Town Sheffield Wednesday Leeds United Blackburn Rovers Huddersfield Town Middlesborough Doncaster Bournemouth Birmingham City Millwall Blackpool Charlton Athletic Barnsley Bolton Wanderers Yeovil
norfolkfox222 Posted 17 February 2014 Author Posted 17 February 2014 If QPR win all there games they end up on 104 If Burnley win all apart from against QPR they can end up on 102 If we gain maximum 35 then we r on 102 therefore we could drop to 3rd by goal difference so i think 36 points is maximum required unless ive missed something (Sorry for being a awkward F*****) Yes i was a spastic thinking they only had 15 games left your right, Bloody hell we just need to keep winning!!
Deucalion Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Just for fun, if all teams continued the same form as in the last 6 games the table would finish like this :- Leicester City Nottingham Forest Burnley Derby County QPR Reading Wigan Athletic Brighton & Hove Albion Watford Ipswich Town Sheffield Wednesday Leeds United Blackburn Rovers Huddersfield Town Middlesborough Doncaster Bournemouth Birmingham City Millwall Blackpool Charlton Athletic Barnsley Bolton Wanderers Yeovil I think we're up against Forest for the title too.
Foxes Blue Blood Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 If QPR win all there games they end up on 104 If Burnley win all apart from against QPR they can end up on 102 If we gain maximum 35 then we r on 102 therefore we could drop to 3rd by goal difference so i think 36 points is maximum required unless ive missed something (Sorry for being a awkward F*****) Are Burnley & QPR playing each other 3 times this season?
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Are Burnley & QPR playing each other 3 times this season? ahh sorry i hadnt realised they already played at turf moor
reynard Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Worked this out yesterday, the Maximum amount of points we need for promotion is 35 providing QPR (3rd) win all their remaining games, I will be working this out week by week as im sure QPR wont be winning every game, just nice to get some actual facts now. 38 surely? QPR can get 104 points, Derby 103 and Forest 102. QPR don't have to play Burnley again. Of the current top six they only have to play us and Forest. Derby have the easiest looking fixtures on paper though they still have to visit Burnley and their match with Forest on 22nd March looks key. Forest's next 3 matches look key for them. Us followed by Burnley away and Wigan at home. If they win all those they would be well placed. Still think it will take 93 points. We could really use Sheffield Wednesday beating Derby tomorrow.
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 now i have been corrected we need 38 points
Steven Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 38 surely? QPR can get 104 points, Derby 103 and Forest 102. QPR don't have to play Burnley again. Of the current top six they only have to play us and Forest. Derby have the easiest looking fixtures on paper though they still have to visit Burnley and their match with Forest on 22nd March looks key. Forest's next 3 matches look key for them. Us followed by Burnley away and Wigan at home. If they win all those they would be well placed. Still think it will take 93 points. We could really use Sheffield Wednesday beating Derby tomorrow. That has been my magic number all along.
Fox92 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 My calculations for this week. Burnley games left 15 x 3 = 45 (that means they win every game) 45 + 60 (their current total) = 105 Meaning we need 38 points to ensure we finish above Burnley/they cannot finish above us. 38 / 3 = 12.6 (wins) (Applying the same with QPR means we need 12.3 wins) Basically if we win our next twelve games that's it, which is actually QPR at home, but it'll not even be that because Burnley and QPR won't win every game.
kingcarr21 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 My calculations for this week. Burnley games left 15 x 3 = 45 (that means they win every game) 45 + 60 (their current total) = 105 Meaning we need 38 points to ensure we finish above Burnley/they cannot finish above us. 38 / 3 = 12.6 (wins) (Applying the same with QPR means we need 12.3 wins) Basically if we win our next twelve games that's it, which is actually QPR at home, but it'll not even be that because Burnley and QPR won't win every game. how sweet it wud be to clinch promotion at that game
KFS Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Why do I keep reading this thread, it just shits me up even more.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Why do I keep reading this thread, it just shits me up even more. I know what you mean, it looks like we need 100 points just to go up !!!!
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