Jimothy Posted 21 April 2014 Posted 21 April 2014 This is just a scenario but just saying some time ago Fergie and the Man U board suddenly realized that Moyes wasn't the man! So behind closed doors the Man U board did a deal with Moyes saying they'd pay him his full contract for the next six years if agreed to resign at the end of the season. So it wouldn't look bad on both parties! Meaning Moyes could walk away from the club making out it was his decision and the Man U board would be able to stick by there recent motto of not sacking there manager and backing him. However somebody behind the scenes as accidentally let slip that he's leaving at the end of the season! Does anyone get my drift? Your fanciful look on the football world is funny at times. Moyes has had a terrible season. His stock has fallen drastically. He won't want to quit, he'll want to fix this, prove he's not a shit manager. Walking away will make him look like a quitter and that he can't handle the pressure of the job, that's not gonna look good on Moyes. The only way Moyes will be leaving is if he's sacked, there will be no sugar coating, no cover up. If anything Utd will want to show they won't stand for failure.
Langston Posted 21 April 2014 Posted 21 April 2014 Rooney is a shit number 10, because his first touch is poor and his short passing is erratic. Mata, David Silva, that is what a good number 10 should be able to do. Rooney is better as a striker. His problem is that he isn't a good player. LOL LOL LOL LOL Funniest thing I've ever read on the boards, thank you so much.
Callabinho Posted 21 April 2014 Posted 21 April 2014 This could be the start of a long baron period for United, not being in Europe will be a financial disaster, and I'm not 100% that sacking Moyes will improve things, he has got a lot wrong this season, but I believe that it was coming to united either way! Fergie had them punching well above their weight last season, and Moyes has been left to fill shoes too big for any manager. People were saying all the same things about Fergie after his first season in charge, but with a bit of perseverance look what followed.
Bayfox Posted 21 April 2014 Posted 21 April 2014 Rumour is there was a clause in his contract saying he could be sacked for not making champions league. Let's be fair. He took a title winning side, all be it a shit one. Spent 70 million quid and made it worse. Whilst his everton side added 3 loan players, played expansive football and make moyes look like his 10 years was an underachievement. There really was only 1 outcome. He had to go now. you just couldn't trust him with 200 million in the summer. He's destined for the norwich or west brom job now.
Charl91 Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 lol lol lol lol Funniest thing I've ever read on the boards, thank you so much. He's not been a great player since the 2010/2011 season, his past few seasons have been mediocre. Have a look at the Man United boards, or actually watch him play sometime. You tell me if he's a 300k a week player; he wouldn't even make it into the top 10 players in the Premier League, let alone deserve to be paid Messi/Ronaldo level salaries. But he's English, and the media still think he's the same great player he was when he was young, so of course he's a world class player. Even Sturridge has been a better player than him this season.... Joey Barton had it right when he said he isn't world class.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 He's not world class but he's still a very good player. He has scored 214 goals in 438 appearances for Manchester United.
MC Prussian Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 Well, Manchester United have to ask themselves some serious questions. Two of them being: With what mindset are they approaching new managers and how realistic are their outlooks on "immediate success"? Either they should've gotten a new manager in earlier to study under Ferguson (I know, that's rather unusual) or given Moyes more time. Madness.
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 UTD have gone from a club being run in an exemplary way, to a joke. Losing the backroom staff Hardly any fresh blood in the summer Fellaini.. 27.5 mill? Mata.. over 30 mill? Rooney... 300k a week Moyes... sacked, on the back of a 6 yr plan? Who is running the club now? Joke. ..
ozleicester Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 Well, Manchester United have to ask themselves some serious questions. Two of them being: With what mindset are they approaching new managers and how realistic are their outlooks on "immediate success"? Either they should've gotten a new manager in earlier to study under Ferguson (I know, that's rather unusual) or given Moyes more time. Madness. This shouldve been the answer, though most top end managers wouldnt have accepted it. No one was going to be able to fill the shoes, and Fergie left a dodgy side as well. 3 years ago they shouldve been training up one of the Utd old boys (Giggs a logical example) and had them increasing responsibility until take over. A year is not long enough.
kingfox Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 I only nipped to the hairdressers to find it closed, come back and they've sacked him. You can't deny how shit he was, regardless of whether he deserved time or not, he broke endless records in a bad way. Signing Fellaini for £27.5 million was the first of many joke decisions. Love the fact it was the Everton result, which basically got him sacked. Now hands off Martinez
Master Fox Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 UTD have gone from a club being run in an exemplary way, to a joke. Losing the backroom staff Hardly any fresh blood in the summer Fellaini.. 27.5 mill? Mata.. over 30 mill? Rooney... 300k a week Moyes... sacked, on the back of a 6 yr plan? Who is running the club now? Joke. .. No, absolutely hilarious.
Happy Fox Posted 22 April 2014 Author Posted 22 April 2014 The decline of Manchester United has begun cannot see them winning the league for a good period of time.
MC Prussian Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 I only nipped to the hairdressers to find it closed, come back and they've sacked him. You can't deny how shit he was, regardless of whether he deserved time or not, he broke endless records in a bad way. Signing Fellaini for £27.5 million was the first of many joke decisions. Love the fact it was the Everton result, which basically got him sacked. Now hands off Martinez Please elaborate. Replacing Ferguson was always an unpleasant task for whomever was taking over after his resignation. They've failed to come up with a proper strategy even before Moyes was hired - from the outside, it looks as if they thought everything would simply work out and continue it did the way before. Moyes isn't "shit", either they should've given him more time or the board have shown their ineptitude at man management and hiring in general. The lesson learnt here is that you can't just wave your cheque book and expect success in an instant.
Happy Fox Posted 22 April 2014 Author Posted 22 April 2014 http://www.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/16257392 Betting odds you will see our Nige at 150/1
Wycombe Fox Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 Doug in Fife, via text on 81111: Which Man Utd players would get into Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool? Rooney maybe. Van Persie when he turns up. That's it. Man Utd were supposed to be different. I'm done supporting them. The words of a true fan
MC Prussian Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 Another take on the whole affair on the BBC: David Moyes: Manchester United owners pay price for bad decisions A few weeks ago, I and several other sports editors were invited to have breakfast with some senior Manchester United figures at the club's plush London offices in the prestigious district of Mayfair. The purpose was to set out why United's robust finances could comfortably sustain a season without Champions League football. The figures were compelling and, while there was disappointment and surprise at the way the season had gone so far, there was confidence that the Premier League club could afford to take the long view. What's more, United had just qualified for this year's Champions League quarter-finals with an encouraging home performance against Olympiakos, so some of the heat around the position of manager David Moyes had undoubtedly cooled. Even then, it was clear that the issue of the manager was not going away. United's performance against Olympiakos in March only served to draw attention to the stark fact that Moyes had failed far too often to get last season's Premier League champions playing with the urgency and application so commonplace under Sir Alex Ferguson. That morning in Mayfair, there was also a subtle but discernible change in the club's position. Rather than dismiss questions about Moyes with the usual rhetoric that United allow their managers time, club officials refused to give any commitments about the Scot's future. Maybe they hoped the performance against Olympiakos would be the turning point. In the end, it was just a blip in a miserable season during which the frailties of United's long-term succession planning have been laid bare. For while Moyes - sacked by United on Tuesday after only 10 months in charge - will carry the can for the team's underperformance, his rigid coaching methods and failure to inspire or motivate his key players, United's owners - the Glazer family - must also be held accountable. Was it right, for example, to allow Ferguson, despite all his achievements, to choose his successor? What other major global business would allow an employee - admittedly a very successful and influential one - to handpick the person to take over from him? By selecting a man in Ferguson's image, the club made the mistake of thinking Moyes could deliver the same magic. But remember, the club Ferguson inherited in 1986 was in a major slump and very different to the United of today - a European super power and global brand owned by Americans, run by a former investment banker from London and with offices in Hong Kong and New York. At the heart of all that, of course, is a football club. And what the Glazers and executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward have finally come to realise is that, without success on the pitch, the rest of the ambitious business plan will quickly start to fall apart. All of which makes you wonder how such a well-oiled commercial machine could have bodged the succession planning quite so badly. Sure, Ferguson's retirement had to be left to the last minute and finding a successor took some time. But allowing former chief executive David Gill to stand down at the same time was a serious error, leaving the club without any senior continuity. Had Gill stayed for one more season, it may have avoided the disastrous summer transfer window that left Moyes on the back foot before he had even started the season. Faced with an even more critical summer in the transfer market this year, Woodward and the Glazers knew they had to make a decision. Would they really back Moyes for the long term by handing him a transfer kitty worth as much as £100m to invest in rebuilding the squad? Or would they decide giving all that money to him was too big a risk? They have arrived at the latter conclusion. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27108156
Fox92 Posted 22 April 2014 Posted 22 April 2014 I honestly do feel for him. It sometimes takes time to rebuild a squad, and this job requires rebuilding. The squad he inherited is poor, given it won the division last season but I do believe that was because of how good of a manager Ferguson was at domestic level. The Fellaini and even Mata transfers haven't really helped, but the players have let him down big time.
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