David Moyes - Cheerio!

[kingfox]

Losing to Everton was the final straw, what a coincidence.

[Matt]

Well he'll never need to work again set up for life and beyond for his family. Perhaps a stint back up in Scotland is calling.

 

Where's Lennon going then? Cos' that's the only job worth taking up there and lets be honest me or you could do a decent job there, infact someone who doesn't even understand football could do a successful job with them.

 

So unless he went with another SPL club he can't really do alot in Scotland.

[stevelcfc]

Really wouldn't be surprised to see a Fergie return. I'm sure if the board offered him a stupid amount he'd return for a few years and perhaps mentor a new man into the job. A Giggs, Scholes or Neville (take your pick) 

[Dan]

I do feel for the bloke as luck hasn't been on his side - but he's not exactly helped himself. I think it's best for all parties if he goes.

[Matt]

Really wouldn't be surprised to see a Fergie return. I'm sure if the board offered him a stupid amount he'd return for a few years and perhaps mentor a new man into the job. A Giggs, Scholes or Neville (take your pick) 

 

I said a few weeks ago they may aswell give it to Giggs and Neville till the end of the season, they couldn't do any worse.

 

I honestly can't believe how many people think he's been unlucky and feel sorry for him, genuinely quite shocked by those opinions.

[DennisNedry]

Success takes time.

[Matt]

Success takes time.

 

They're going backwards under Moyes and fast though.

 

You want to see a glimpse of improvement. There was just nothing, I think people were willing to give him a chance and time but not when they are going so backwards so quickly.

 

Tactics have been poor, signings have been poor, signings have been panic buys.

[bovril]

Football has changed a lot since then, though. They need massive investment to get back to the holy land of the CL and it's clear that they don't trust Moyes with the club credit card.

[davieG]

Where's Lennon going then? Cos' that's the only job worth taking up there and lets be honest me or you could do a decent job there, infact someone who doesn't even understand football could do a successful job with them.

 

So unless he went with another SPL club he can't really do alot in Scotland.

I was being sarcastic suggesting that was the only place he'd be capable of managing or where anyone would want him. 

[stevelcfc]

Sky Sources say he's gone within the next 24 hours!

[Leicesterpool]

Sky Sources say he's gone within the next 24 hours!

BBC Sport are reporting that Man U are silent on reports of Moyes being sacked so in other words its on going! 

[LanguedocFox]

It won't matter who they appoint. It is going to take two or three years to turn Man U round - look at the issues that Brendan Rodgers has had to deal with at Liverpool, and the problem is that the owners don't have the necessary patience. Fortunately they will go for a foreigner, so we will doubtless hang on to Pearson for a couple more years at least.

[foxes_rule1978]

Sky Sources say he's gone within the next 24 hours!

Just heard, not surprising really he has been poor and things haven't improved. Quite ironic that it was the defeat to Everton that has finally seen him get the boot

[The Guvnor]

Not his fault you can't polish a turd!

[Corky]

15 defeats in all competitions this season. I think the issue has been how much better Liverpool and Everton are doing, so there are no excuses of money being thrown around to get success elsewhere.

[Donut]

Not his fault you can't polish a turd!

 

a turd that won the league and that he has strengthened that are now mid table

[foxes_rule1978]

a turd that won the league and that he has strengthened that are now mid table

Won the league by 11 points as well... I'm sorry but this United team was more than capable of a top four finish and Moyes hasn't even got close to that.

[MPH]

I don't really get why people are feeling sorry for him, he got his chance and failed miserably, end of.

 

 

Even Fergie would of had to rebuild this year and he knew it - thats why he had to walk away from the aging squad that he passed on to Moyes

 

 

 

And really, who could of matched fergie this year.

 

 

 

 

It was a poisoned chalice and there isnt a manager on the planet who copuld of got United to win the league this year.

 

 

 

And if a year is having a chance..... Just think what could  of happened if they had sacked Fergie after only one year in charge....

 

 

( his first year in charge was pretty miserable indeed...)

[xHamzah]

[foxes_rule1978]

Even Fergie would of had to rebuild this year and he knew it - thats why he had to walk away from the aging squad that he passed on to Moyes

And really, who could of matched fergie this year.

It was a poisoned chalice and there isnt a manager on the planet who copuld of got United to win the league this year.

And if a year is having a chance..... Just think what could of happened if they had sacked Fergie after only one year in charge....

( his first year in charge was pretty miserable indeed...)

Martinez is showing Moyes up even more, never won anything always very overrated... He didn't have to win the title, just take a team who won the league by 11 points add some good additions to it and finish in the CL places, he couldn't even manage that.

[The Guvnor]

a turd that won the league and that he has strengthened that are now mid table

 

I couldn't give a flying fvck about Man utd but I don't believe the squad is that good, I will admit Fellaini was a strange choice to strengthen.

[GingerrrFox]

How anyone can say that this Manchester United side is "not very good" or that Moyes has done well is beyond me. He's just not done a good job. Playing Rooney as a lone striker is one of the strangest decisions. He doesn't stretch defences by running in behind, he doesn't hold the ball up particularly well and he doesn't have the pace to thrive off through balls. He's a number 10 that likes the ball to feet and looks to create for others and score himself.

Moyes's problem is that he has tried to fit square pegs in round holes by playing Rooney, Mata, Januzaj and Kagawa in the same team when in reality they all are excellent 10s but mediocre anywhere else.

Yesterday United kept the ball well but unless you have a cutting edge in the final 3rd it's all irrelevant. There was no movement up front, Rooney kept dropping short for the ball and there was no threat in behind. He should have started either Hernandez or Welbeck up front as they thrive off playing in behind and giving an outlet. It's just basics that Moyes didn't grasp.

[promised land]

I heard it will cost them 30+ million to sack him, in which case i can't see it imo .

But what does it cost the club on the US stock market if they keep him?

That's the main issue now there is no Chumps league for them.

[Charl91]

How anyone can say that this Manchester United side is "not very good" or that Moyes has done well is beyond me. He's just not done a good job. Playing Rooney as a lone striker is one of the strangest decisions. He doesn't stretch defences by running in behind, he doesn't hold the ball up particularly well and he doesn't have the pace to thrive off through balls. He's a number 10 that likes the ball to feet and looks to create for others and score himself.

Moyes's problem is that he has tried to fit square pegs in round holes by playing Rooney, Mata, Januzaj and Kagawa in the same team when in reality they all are excellent 10s but mediocre anywhere else.

Yesterday United kept the ball well but unless you have a cutting edge in the final 3rd it's all irrelevant. There was no movement up front, Rooney kept dropping short for the ball and there was no threat in behind. He should have started either Hernandez or Welbeck up front as they thrive off playing in behind and giving an outlet. It's just basics that Moyes didn't grasp.

 

Rooney is a shit number 10, because his first touch is poor and his short passing is erratic. Mata, David Silva, that is what a good number 10 should be able to do. Rooney is better as a striker. His problem is that he isn't a good player.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

I think sacking him is the wrong decision, he should have been given until Christmas at least. What was the point in giving him a 6-year contract only to ditch him now? A token gesture it seems.

 

I think the biggest problem in all this is managing expectations. Yes, United could have had a better season this year but what they've actually had is a reality check. A realisation that they're not head and shoulders above the rest and have no divine right to win the league as they had become accustomed to under SAF. The way their 'supporters' have reacted to this season (and Moyes) has been outrageous, and I think the difference between now and when SAF first arrived is that you take on the social media generation where everyone has their say and campaigns/witch hunts can gather pace frighteningly quickly.

 

Moyes hasn't helped himself with his transfer business but that's not solely been down to him, it was clear that he had identified players he wanted but that the club were unable to secure them leaving him going for an old safe bet in Fellaini. Mata is a quality signing for anyone but he's not been integrated as well as he no doubt eventually will be when they are stronger in other areas.

 

The squad SAF left needed re-vamping and I think they're only three or four quality players away from being real contenders again. What needed to happen was an acceptance of this and an understanding that it will take time to replace the players that need replacing. Any manager having to replace Scholes (who SAF couldn't replace), Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra and Giggs would need time.

 

For me, sacking Moyes is like sacking Pearson at the end of the half season he had when Sven had left. He needed time to bring his own players in and clear out the rubbish that was at the club when he arrived and it's now paying dividends.