Torten Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 oh man that ball from the corner for burnley's goal why can't we just do that Burnley scoring from a corner like that? Why can't we EVER do anything like that? I'm glad we think alike.
orangecity23 Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 Oh my word, that is an incredible decision. Wow. So to sum up, we have linesmen who don't understand a player in their own half isn't offside, and top Premier League official Mike Jones thinks that the actual lyrics to the song 'Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes' are "Handball, Handball, Handball, Handball". Remember though, the important things is that we Respect these officials.
lgfualol Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 Oh my word, that is an incredible decision. Wow. When we got promoted I thought we left all the massively shit refs behind. The ref system is ****ed
Torten Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 The state of officiating has been deteriorating for a while now. 10 years ago, there was the odd controversial decision but now there seems to be a new one every week.
Corky Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 So to sum up, we have linesmen who don't understand a player in their own half isn't offside, and top Premier League official Mike Jones thinks that the actual lyrics to the song 'Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes' are "Handball, Handball, Handball, Handball". Remember though, the important things is that we Respect these officials. I do believe officials make honest decisions, and therefore mistakes, based on what they witness but some just defy belief.
SecretPro Posted 17 January 2015 Posted 17 January 2015 Officials this year, seriously. Something has to give and the FA need to sort them the **** out in the summer because it's costing teams valuable points. Not good enough.
Dan Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 I'm not convinced they are honest. Some of them are just downright inexplicable. It's pretty obvious something needs doing though. There's just no way on earth things can go on like this.
Guest ttfn Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 I find it pretty funny that one of the things that Newcastle were giving Pardew grief about was his failure to win a game they were trailing in at half time and he does it in his second game at Crystal Palace! Just goes to show that, perhaps, it wasn't all the manager's fault and that a toxic atmosphere is never going to help.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 I find it pretty funny that one of the things that Newcastle were giving Pardew grief about was his failure to win a game they were trailing in at half time and he does it in his second game at Crystal Palace! Just goes to show that, perhaps, it wasn't all the manager's fault and that a toxic atmosphere is never going to help. What it also shows is that the 'consistency' argument works both ways. Palace sack Warnock, employ Pardew and suddenly look a different side. I wouldn't be shocked if Pulis keeps Brom up too. The consistency thing really is a flawed argument.
MC Prussian Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 What it also shows is that the 'consistency' argument works both ways. Palace sack Warnock, employ Pardew and suddenly look a different side. I wouldn't be shocked if Pulis keeps Brom up too. The consistency thing really is a flawed argument. Except when you're talking about teams who've been in the Premier League for a couple of season in succession (to a large extent consisting of players who've played in this league for at least one entire season) and with proven managers at the helm. So, how is consistency now "flawed" or how does it work "in both ways" again?
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 Except when you're talking about teams who've been in the Premier League for a couple of season in succession (to a large extent consisting of players who've played in this league for at least one entire season) and with proven managers at the helm. So, how is consistency now "flawed" or how does it work "in both ways" again? If a poor manager is replaced with a good manager. IMO both Pulis and Pardew are good managers, then this makes sense. It makes no sense to keep a failing manager just for the sake of keeping them on the basis of some mystical 'consistency'. If Pardew and Pulis continue to turn around Palace and Brom, employing them would have been the right thing to do. The goal is Premiership survival and you do what you need to to maximise your chances.
MC Prussian Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 If a poor manager is replaced with a good manager. IMO both Pulis and Pardew are good managers, then this makes sense. It makes no sense to keep a failing manager just for the sake of keeping them on the basis of some mystical 'consistency'. If Pardew and Pulis continue to turn around Palace and Brom, employing them would have been the right thing to do. The goal is Premiership survival and you do what you need to to maximise your chances. Depends on what constitutes a "good" manager to you. What have Pulis and Pardew ever achieved in the past apart from getting promoted with teams or somehow managed to keep them afloat in the top flight? Good managers are the ones that push teams further, both domestically and on the European stage. Both Pulis and Pardew have failed in that regard. How is keeping Pearson "making no sense" when yet, he needs at least one season at this level to be able to be compared to other PL managers? We did show signs of consistency during that recent four-game run without defeat, because Pearson was able to deploy a similar starting eleven each time. Now, we've been hit by absences, injuries and suspensions, thus taking the wind out of our sails. Anyone with a bit of common sense could've seen that coming by a mile.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 Depends on what constitutes a "good" manager to you. What have Pulis and Pardew ever achieved in the past apart from getting promoted with teams or somehow managed to keep them afloat in the top flight? Good managers are the ones that push teams further, both domestically and on the European stage. Both Pulis and Pardew have failed in that regard. How is keeping Pearson "making no sense" when yet, he needs at least one season at this level to be able to be compared to other PL managers? We did show signs of consistency during that recent four-game run without defeat, because Pearson was able to deploy a similar starting eleven each time. Now, we've been hit by absences, injuries and suspensions, thus taking the wind out of our sails. Anyone with a bit of common sense could've seen that coming by a mile. Exactly. Keeping teams afloat in the top flight IS the aim for the smaller clubs. Especially in the first season. Pulis and Pardew have done this. Brom and Palace have done the right thing, I think, at the right time. So far, the reality is that we have performed generally very poorly this season. We are bottom of the league AND amongst sides that, this season, are much of a muchness. There is still time, but I doubt many of us would have expected us to be bottom at this point.
Spicer Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 The only positive this weekend is that everybody else lost around us. Except Palace. If we won next match and everybody lost we would be in 16th.
SlaneyLCFC Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 The only positive this weekend is that everybody else lost around us. Except Palace. If we won next match and everybody lost we would be in 16th. Exactly. way too much over-reaction yesterday. Yes we were poor but were not out of the fight whatsoever. Have some faith in the team!
Matt Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 The only positive this weekend is that everybody else lost around us. Except Palace. If we won next match and everybody lost we would be in 16th. Exactly. way too much over-reaction yesterday. Yes we were poor but were not out of the fight whatsoever. Have some faith in the team! Except we are playing Man Utd away. While the fact remains true the likelyhood is becomes less. Also, we're becoming reliant on other teams results.
cjslcfc Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 The only positive this weekend is that everybody else lost around us. Except Palace. If we won next match and everybody lost we would be in 16th. The problem is our run of games after Palace at home is horrendous. To be honest Man Utd are nothing special at all and we could get a result. For me, though, they will remember the last game and desperately want to make amends for that embarrassment. If we have the midfield we had yesterday we won't get anything from that game whatsoever.
Brooksy Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 Absolutely incredible Standard of officiating at this level is absolutely embarrassing.
davieG Posted 18 January 2015 Author Posted 18 January 2015 Yes let's see where we are after the next 6 league fixtures..... Mnn U away Palace home Arsenal away Everton away Chelsea home Man C away .......and then panic
Richmondfox Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 We have been unlucky with penalties. Arsenal just got a soft pen against City yet we don't get anything when the defender was pulling and climbing all over Kramaric.
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