Narborough_fox Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 Not a solution but it's noticeable how many of the other "big" countries have recently retired or younger managers taken on. Lets face it, Hodgson compared to them, is a dinosaur. Sadly, unless Neville turns out to be an incredible coach we don't have much alternative. In our country, doing the odd shift for Sky is a lot more lucrative than becoming a big-time manager. Didn't Jurgen Klopp become do a lot of media work before he was Dortmund manager? The analysis that you do on the game in a studio may well help give you, as a manager, a different look at the match. Might be why a lot of retired pros do studio work before becoming a manager nowadays? I know he's pretty new to the job but I'd consider getting rid of Greg Dyke if the FA really want the national team to succeed.
Leicesterpool Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 Just get rid of the old dinosaurs that run the fa. For me one of the problems is that the premier league season is on too long, ideally the season should end the final weekend of april, but of course premier league won't do that cause they don't give a crap. Roy of course needs to go but i don't think we should put all the blame on his door.
Leicesterpool Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 Didn't Jurgen Klopp become do a lot of media work before he was Dortmund manager? The analysis that you do on the game in a studio may well help give you, as a manager, a different look at the match. Might be why a lot of retired pros do studio work before becoming a manager nowadays? I know he's pretty new to the job but I'd consider getting rid of Greg Dyke if the FA really want the national team to succeed. I agree about Dyke, you need a footballing man in that role.
goose2010 Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 The obvious one is to copy the germans and invest in grass roots and use it as a ten year plan. But my extreme change is this.... Players are owned by the club until they are 25 and live with their club i.e like a Army training camp until they are 25. They still get paid no cap or anything but it is frozen until they reach 25 which then they get 20% of their wage and when retire they get the rest. Every player has a retirement age of 37 this can only be changed due to injury. This would make the players respect the club and realise how lucky they are. So basically take away everything they have and stop their 'celebrity' lifestyles. People may say this is a bit extreme but it would definitely benefit the clubs and the national team. We need to get respect back into the game rather than the players just playing for cash. Scrap agents as well they don't need them they just use them to secure more money.
Grandad. Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 Completely agree with the two week break at the start of January, I would also make that two week break the only time for transfers in January, but that is a side debate. Also agree with scrapping FA Cup replays, straight extra-time and penalties.
Dan Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 Completely agree with the two week break at the start of January, I would also make that two week break the only time for transfers in January, but that is a side debate. Also agree with scrapping FA Cup replays, straight extra-time and penalties. I'm not sure I'd have a two week break, but I'd certainly do something about the fixture backlog. Look how ridiculous it is this year. Using Leicester as an example; 20 Dec - West Ham (A) 26 Dec - Tottenham (H) 28 Dec - Hull (A) 1 Jan - Liverpool (A) 3 Jan - FA Cup 3rd round 4 games in 8 days with two periods of playing twice with only a one day gap? That's absolutely mental. As well, August, September & October have three games each - December has six. Why do they chuck a midweek game in at early December? Replays is a funny one. A lot of lower league clubs absolutely thrive on cup replay revenue.
Corky Posted 15 July 2014 Posted 15 July 2014 I'm not sure I'd have a two week break, but I'd certainly do something about the fixture backlog. Look how ridiculous it is this year. Using Leicester as an example; 20 Dec - West Ham (A) 26 Dec - Tottenham (H) 28 Dec - Hull (A) 1 Jan - Liverpool (A) 3 Jan - FA Cup 3rd round 4 games in 8 days with two periods of playing twice with only a one day gap? That's absolutely mental. As well, August, September & October have three games each - December has six. Why do they chuck a midweek game in at early December? Replays is a funny one. A lot of lower league clubs absolutely thrive on cup replay revenue. Internationals, European weeks and League Cup weeks.
Guest Col city fan Posted 16 July 2014 Posted 16 July 2014 Been discussing this for years with my mates. The reality is we just don't know! For every argument, there is a counter: 1. Limit the number of overseas players in the Prem. But we were no better twenty odd years ago when there wasn't anywhere near as many? 2. Have an English manager. Well Roy has just knackered that argument, as did Keegan, McClaren et al. 3. Look at grassroots football.. but are we really going to get youth teams across the land to stop lumping it up to a big, quick lad up front? 4. Have a winter break.. but lets be honest, football in the UK over Christmas and January is part of the culture. 5. Are our kids just paid too much? Yet the Germans, with their young squad, aint exactly earning peanuts are they? 6. Do we think we are better than we really are? Well I still believe that a team containing the likes of Sterling and Sturridge (amongst others), should overcome a team containing the likes of Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell. 7. Do we play too varied an array of competitive sports? No, I don't think so. USA are improving, yet their main sports are Baseball and American Football etc. The list goes on. Frankly, we have decided that, despite years of analysing it, we don't have a clue! There appears to be no clear solution, the problem is very complex. Of the list above, maybe 6 is the key answer in this case. But if we aren't very good at football anymore, then why? Very complex.
foxfanazer Posted 16 July 2014 Posted 16 July 2014 Been discussing this for years with my mates. The reality is we just don't know! For every argument, there is a counter: 1. Limit the number of overseas players in the Prem. But we were no better twenty odd years ago when there wasn't anywhere near as many? 2. Have an English manager. Well Roy has just knackered that argument, as did Keegan, McClaren et al. 3. Look at grassroots football.. but are we really going to get youth teams across the land to stop lumping it up to a big, quick lad up front? 4. Have a winter break.. but lets be honest, football in the UK over Christmas and January is part of the culture. 5. Are our kids just paid too much? Yet the Germans, with their young squad, aint exactly earning peanuts are they? 6. Do we think we are better than we really are? Well I still believe that a team containing the likes of Sterling and Sturridge (amongst others), should overcome a team containing the likes of Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell. 7. Do we play too varied an array of competitive sports? No, I don't think so. USA are improving, yet their main sports are Baseball and American Football etc. The list goes on. Frankly, we have decided that, despite years of analysing it, we don't have a clue! There appears to be no clear solution, the problem is very complex. Of the list above, maybe 6 is the key answer in this case. But if we aren't very good at football anymore, then why? Very complex. Good points there Col. No definitive answer for me but I do think we need to be coaching kids from a young age a new brand of football. Pass and move,making space, first touch etc.Hate the idea of a winter break, love all the fixtures coming in thick and fast. Wouldn't sacrifice that for the benefit of the national team in all honesty. Although it may be seen as a cop out I think the media could help us out a bit and stop with the shite pre tournament b they come out with
MooseBreath Posted 16 July 2014 Posted 16 July 2014 So much reactionary crap. Four years ago we were all about copying Spain. Now Spain are back to being shit they don't even get a mention and suddenly now we need to copy germany. It's ridiculous. Producing enough world class players to give you a chance is all about luck. We had enough between 2002 and 2008 but wasted it on a pair of abysmal managers. The fact is that a genuinely world class manager would have got us to at least one final in that time period. Now we're in a bit of a lull in terms of players but our time will come again and when it does it won't be because we've spent some money on a nicely laid pitch for kids to play on, it'll be because the laws of probability have again blessed us with the small number of gifted footballers we need.
Aus Fox Posted 16 July 2014 Posted 16 July 2014 Been discussing this for years with my mates. The reality is we just don't know! For every argument, there is a counter: 1. Limit the number of overseas players in the Prem. But we were no better twenty odd years ago when there wasn't anywhere near as many? 2. Have an English manager. Well Roy has just knackered that argument, as did Keegan, McClaren et al. 3. Look at grassroots football.. but are we really going to get youth teams across the land to stop lumping it up to a big, quick lad up front? 4. Have a winter break.. but lets be honest, football in the UK over Christmas and January is part of the culture. 5. Are our kids just paid too much? Yet the Germans, with their young squad, aint exactly earning peanuts are they? 6. Do we think we are better than we really are? Well I still believe that a team containing the likes of Sterling and Sturridge (amongst others), should overcome a team containing the likes of Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell. 7. Do we play too varied an array of competitive sports? No, I don't think so. USA are improving, yet their main sports are Baseball and American Football etc. The list goes on. Frankly, we have decided that, despite years of analysing it, we don't have a clue! There appears to be no clear solution, the problem is very complex. Of the list above, maybe 6 is the key answer in this case. But if we aren't very good at football anymore, then why? Very complex. Why about moving our top players overseas? The best sides we've had recently at major tournaments italia 90 and euro 96 had the likes of Lineker who had played in Spain, waddle in France, Ince, platt Gascoigne in Italy, even Beardsley playing in Canada. Every World Cup people talk about the conditions not suiting certain teams, well we don't have players who play in any other conditions than what we have here.
kingfox Posted 18 November 2015 Posted 18 November 2015 They are all on about this new league system. But is the talent actually already their at lower league clubs? Manchester United, Man City, Arsenal etc...might not have the next big English stars, just look at lower down the leagues, Dele Alli at MK Dons for example. Psychic powers
Guest Posted 18 November 2015 Posted 18 November 2015 For one thing, learn to chill out. Being an England player/manager must be one of the most stressful and thankless jobs in the world. Admit that we're rubbish - or at least not as good as we wish we were - and then go out there and have fun. Go out and have a laugh, be yourself and enjoy the occasion. After all, 90% of these matches are either meaningless or a foregone conclusion.
fuchsntf Posted 18 November 2015 Posted 18 November 2015 For one thing, learn to chill out. Being an England player/manager must be one of the most stressful and thankless jobs in the world. Admit that we're rubbish - or at least not as good as we wish we were - and then go out there and have fun. Go out and have a laugh, be yourself and enjoy the occasion. After all, 90% of these matches are either meaningless or a foregone conclusion. Disagree that we are rubbish, but the posts points imo are spot on.Our own arrogance is our major enemy.The fans and media actually believing, we should be a top 3 Int.side. We have good players, we have had good managers, and Hodgson is far from being as bad as some fans will have tell. One burden all English managers have to deal with compared to many other International sides, is the consistent regular injuries to our top players, whether they are old hands or just trying to break into the Squad. Wilshere, Walcott, Rooney he never went to a finals without carrying an injury.Townsend who started out well, since his 1st knocks never found that good form again.Sturridge, Shaw Welbeck like many before them, prove their right to be considered worthy of the England shirt, long time continual knocks, that keeps them from the squad. Englands managers major problem for me is, when the 5-6top players have been injured, there are not enough quality players for those positions.This as been a more of a problem since the 80s. We the fans and media then go on, then making incorrect analyse a n d qualify some of the missing players as automatic write ins. For example...Walcott, Wilshere, Sturridge, Shaw, are still in the process of still needing to prove their International potential.Unlike teams like Germany, Spain, France, even when they have dips from their quality periods, they have depth we lack in depth cover. Though last night, one couldnt make a true or fair assesment on the players, and contrary to some foxforum posters, I thought Hodgson, tried a line up, that could well end up being a kick start to some players England future, Dier, offered more imo than Delph, Ali's postioning and movement looked quite solid. Rooney played where many would now like to see him.Stones, Clyne, Gibbs put in good claims for that first game in France. Kane, should be at least on the plane, and fair performance . Sterling again played too deep, tried to beat the world and failed.Sterling must be and stay on the wings, getting into positions that Clyne found himself in.Barclay imo still needs to prove himself. For the next friendly, if recovery and injuries allow, I would like to see... A Backline of :- Clyne Stones Smalling Shaw Midfield..............Ali.......Wilshere..........Dier/Sterling ............................... Rooney........... Kane.. Vardy.... Fans should realise firstly we are not in the top 4 seeds, but still support hoping we can tilt the scales.Lower expectations on the Managers possibilities and his on the pitch influence. In turn, the key players, we the fans should see the manager choose them for their natural postions. Of course the manager can try different selection set-ups.Henderson play in front of the back 4. Walcott for Ali. Etc etc. One worry and I have no answer, how to get Sterling/winger crossing from the by-line, stop English midfield running down blind alleys, and know when its the right time, to look up and release the ball.
Foxhateram Posted 22 November 2015 Posted 22 November 2015 Pick players that will play for the shirt rather than expect to played. We have too many players that know there place in the team is confirmed no matter their form or work rate. A manager with some bollocking who has the tenacity to actually do the above. Get rid of woy. Snobbery at its best that bloke. Vardy is lucky to wear the shirt. What rubbish, on international form all the other striking options are lucky to be in the premier league no matter playing at world class level. And most importantly play a system and style of play that suites the players we have. Imagine an attack of Walcott and sterling as wingers and vardy with sturridge (when he is back to full fitness) kane if we have to (don't rate him though, but at least he shows some passion) up top. If we played the ball quickly out to the front 4 we would worry any defence. But we don't, we play this boring pass pass pass back and sideways rubbish that just doesn't work for this squad.
Stadt Posted 22 November 2015 Posted 22 November 2015 Pick a side that suits the type of game we're playing, against the sides that are worse than us (most of them) we have to try and play more energetically, more movement and more dribbling because the languid possession football doesn't work against semi competent nations. Against the sides better than us we need to make use of the pace in the side. Against better teams I'd go with something similar to this: Hart Clyne Stones/Cahill Smalling Bertrand* Walcott Dier Henderson** Sterling Kane Sturridge*** *Bertrand/Gibbs/Baines/Cresswell they're all unispiring. **Fitness dependant along with Wilshere and Carrick ***Vardy because Sturridge will be injured.
eye666 Posted 23 November 2015 Posted 23 November 2015 If he keeps playing as he is, think Shawcross needs a call-up. Just back from injury but if he can stay injury free then should be given a chance. Think Stoke have now gone 3 games without conceding since he's been back, and think he's been under-rated by playing for "little old Stoke" for a while now. If Gary Cahill can play for England, I don't see why Shawcross shouldn't get a chance to prove himself.
LeicesterBran Posted 24 November 2015 Posted 24 November 2015 Improve the coaching at grassroots level, instead of the boring kick and rush. I play/played against some very outstanding technical footballers but, they would not make it as professional footballers in this country. Youngsters need to be taught how to play football the right way. Encouraging futsal, it will help us to produce some talented footballers. Players such as Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Iniesta did futsal. Get a coach who plays attacking football like Alan Pardew, Glenn Hoodle or Big Nige. Even get a foreign boss, Under Hodgson,England are dreadful to watch. And last pick players on form and merit not just because, they play for a top team. Drinkwater, Shawcross, Dann and Cresswell should be given a chance to play for England. Rooney needs to be dropped, in order for him to get motivation to play well for this Country. I honestly can see England falling behind minnow nations like Wales, Northern Ireland, Denmark, Albania, Turkey, Czech Republic etc unless the FA don't sort this mess out.
ScouseFox Posted 24 November 2015 Posted 24 November 2015 pass the ball to sterling at every opportunity
Tuna Posted 10 January 2016 Posted 10 January 2016 Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino has coached 10 of England's last 18 debutants. Stat was on the BBC report of today's game.
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