Transfer policy what's the problem?

[st albans fox]

I don't think this thread can go anywhere until the 31st. NP is well known for doing his business on the quiet. We have no idea what he might be up to.

[Leicester-Fox]

Knew i would get the normal mongroid responses from blue tinted specs brigade?

However, we have had the best part of the summer to sign or at least assemble a squad competitive enougth to compete in the premiership.

Tomorrow is the 20th of the month. There are only eleven yes eleven days left of this transfer window.

We then can't sign anyone until January by then if we are in the bottom three it will be bloody hard to avoid relegation.

If we can't attract players now, with our policy what hope will we have in January?

I want us to stay in the premier league this is the place to be. Unless something changes it's going to be a short stay.

The signings over the summer have been average and not really improved the squad, recent injuries will cause us challenges however if we sign 2 or 3 quality players before the end of the transfer window we have a chance of holding our own. Too early to panic buy.

[Captain...]

We are competing with every other premiership club for any quality player out there, to be honest it is only really Burnley that we are a more attractive prospect than, maybe now also Palace, but QPR have a better recent history than us, third season in the prem in the last 4 years, high profile manager based in London.

 

Everyone in the prem has money so we can't compete financially, and we are rightly not getting in bidding wars over fees and wages, and a number of our targets and their clubs may well be holding out for better offers elsewhere. If we are looking in the French or Spanish leagues they do not start back for a couple more weeks so they don't have the urgency to sell.

 

We can't operate under the radar as we are now massive, and all you balloonheads out there keep on revealing our targets. If we had gone for Mahrez this summer, it would have been leaked and someone else would have come in offering more.

 

So we are going to have to be patient, there are still plenty of players on the market, and we will tie up a few more deals, I think the positive result against Everton will help us show we can compete. Looking for blame within in the club is self defeating we are now the small fry and we will have to pick up the scraps left by other teams.

[sylofox]

Agents don't work weekends or bank holidays so even less time left. Game over

Agents work when they need too the money they earn covers the fact they work on a Saturday.

That and the fact after sept 1st they will all be going on holiday as the bulk of there work is done till christmas.

 

You really think an agent is going to tell a player he can't do a 30m move because it is Saturday. lol 

[Simonb]

Doesn't the loan window shut even further away?

Don't think there's no issues with our recruitment team, we have done business pretty early in the window and I'm guessing we're assessing our options before the window shuts too

in premiership loan window clises end of the month too.. dont get y this topics up though.. needless panic.. id be more worried if we were handing out blank cheques to a multitude of new players

[weller54]

Knew i would get the normal mongroid responses from blue tinted specs brigade?

However, we have had the best part of the summer to sign or at least assemble a squad competitive enougth to compete in the premiership.

Tomorrow is the 20th of the month. There are only eleven yes eleven days left of this transfer window.

We then can't sign anyone until January by then if we are in the bottom three it will be bloody hard to avoid relegation.

If we can't attract players now, with our policy what hope will we have in January?

I want us to stay in the premier league this is the place to be. Unless something changes it's going to be a short stay.

This!!!!!!

[stevelcfc]

Oh for god sake, this window is notoriously hard for newly promoted clubs unless your a poorly run club willing to splash millions on useless gash (not a reference to Fanni). Agents will be holding us to ransom, players are unwilling to join a team who are just looking to stay up/isn't proven in this league. Our targets will also be targets for half the league and also those abroad, so naturally they will choose those who are less likely to be involved in a scrap. It's not closed yet, the busiest part of the window is still to come, and as we know, we are looking for the correct players, if they are unwilling to join I.E. Cambiasso looking at Athletico and Valencia instead then we simply have to move on to the next target (if there is one, cause there no point doing a QPR and signing players that don't fit our ethos otherwise you'll upset the balance of the entire squad). Things are still to play out and just because the papers report one thing doesn't mean it's true. We are not QPR or under the management of Sven and I trust the correct decision will be made, whether that means signings or not, so stop scaremongering and grow up. 

[Kinowe Soorie]

Knew i would get the normal mongroid responses from blue tinted specs brigade?

However, we have had the best part of the summer to sign or at least assemble a squad competitive enougth to compete in the premiership.

Tomorrow is the 20th of the month. There are only eleven yes eleven days left of this transfer window.

We then can't sign anyone until January by then if we are in the bottom three it will be bloody hard to avoid relegation.

If we can't attract players now, with our policy what hope will we have in January?

I want us to stay in the premier league this is the place to be. Unless something changes it's going to be a short stay.

Mongroid?

[JIMMYWILLIS]

Agents work when they need too the money they earn covers the fact they work on a Saturday.

That and the fact after sept 1st they will all be going on holiday as the bulk of there work is done till christmas.

You really think an agent is going to tell a player he can't do a 30m move because it is Saturday. lol

You think I meant that? I was adding to the panic of 11 days

[Bettsj2]

Knew i would get the normal mongroid responses from blue tinted specs brigade?

However, we have had the best part of the summer to sign or at least assemble a squad competitive enougth to compete in the premiership.

Tomorrow is the 20th of the month. There are only eleven yes eleven days left of this transfer window.

We then can't sign anyone until January by then if we are in the bottom three it will be bloody hard to avoid relegation.

If we can't attract players now, with our policy what hope will we have in January?

I want us to stay in the premier league this is the place to be. Unless something changes it's going to be a short stay.

We've signed 4 players. With Fanni it makes 5.

How many exactly do you want to sign? 6? 7? 8?

Not many teams ever sign that many in a window and when they do, it usually proves to be a disaster.

Just because the Cambiasso transfer is dragging on, the assumption is that all of our dealings are like this. The reports on us making numerous bids for Deeney have proved false and it seems pretty likely the original bid was to force the Ulloa deal over the line.

Not sure I get the sentiment that its OUR transfer strategy that's at fault.

[Robin JD Popley]

I don't actually feel it is anything we are doing wrong, it comes down to the fact that some players are motivated (as are their agents) solely by money. I am not going to say we have a wage cap, because the only people who truly know if that is the case are Vichai, Top, Nigel, Terry and the others who play a hand in the transfer policy of our club. Take the Rod Fanni deal that seems to have fallen through. As I have said elsewhere, he was (and still is) on a big wage at Marseille and probably came here thinking that we would be prepared to match his current wage, as that is the reputation that precedes the Premier League as a whole. You just had to note how much advertising was taking place before kick off and during the game on Saturday. It's there and there is no way to avoid it.

 

When we do not match the demands of certain players, it is then down to them to decide whether they wish to fulfil ambitions of playing in the Premier League with us at any cost, or, hold out for a better deal elsewhere irrespective of which league it may be in. This seemed to be the case with Campbell. No reason whatsoever to go to Palace really, nor, did we hold the monopoly over his signature but it is probably widely considered that the first team to discuss terms with a player will know from the onset whether they will or won't be signing said player. People may then refer to this Cambiasso deal, which (fingers crossed), may be finally coming to a happy conclusion for us. Who are we to know that when the initial story broke, we weren't at the very earliest stages of the negotiation and it has taken until now for it to happen? Jamie Vardy was apparently 'close' to signing his new contract after two weeks of pre-season but has only been confirmed today.

 

When a deal is there to be made, it will be made, if all parties want it.

 

When a top four club comes calling, we, sadly don't stand a chance. When a club on par with us does, we do, but if a player only wants to become more wealthy than be an integral squad member, then that is their decision (but, sadly, gives you an indication over who is here for the right reasons).

 

All, in all, these are some of the things I believe Nigel detects too in his preliminary talks and has (albeit on the very odd occasion with bad experience), given us very good professionals - on and off the pitch. Patience is always the key.

[CosbehFox]

You only have to look at Manchester United, the World's biggest club who very short of defenders and required quality to understand it's not easy to sign the 'right type of player'.

People feel the need to criticise but we haven't got a clue on the wage demands of the players. Last season Cardiff completely ****ed up their transfer deals by giving new signings massive paid deals whilst the players what got promoted were left way short of that. Palace went a different way and gambled on various players in an attempt to build up their squad. It failed badly until Pulis brought in some more structure.

There's almost part of me now what's wants to have the same squad. That Pearson builds a siege mentality.

The constant citing of Long as an example of a quick transfer deal is getting on my tits. Southampton may have been talking to Hull for weeks before agreeing a deal and they also greed to pay a hideous amount of money for an average striker too.

Also I feel a bit for the Thai's here. Worshipped by many and now they want to be sensible, so let them get ripped off. They are showing a genuine long-term concern over the club (you want to see how immense the training ground is now and how much was done to the KP over the summer) but a certain section of fans want to gamble all that over the sake of four to five more players. If we stay up, we stay up. If we don't, we don't but at least there's a football club there.

[chicagofox]

when it does only take other clubs 48 to 72 hrs max to get a player in.

 

What are you basing this on?  If you have evidence or fact to support this then fair enough.  It would be my thought that very very few deals (final day of the window apart) are wrapped up within three days.

[Bettsj2]

What are you basing this on?  If you have evidence or fact to support this then fair enough.  It would be my thought that very very few deals (final day of the window apart) are wrapped up within three days.

Entire argument based on the Shane Long transfer.

[stevelcfc]

What are you basing this on?  If you have evidence or fact to support this then fair enough.  It would be my thought that very very few deals (final day of the window apart) are wrapped up within three days.

 

I believe Football manager has alot to do with this unthoughtful, illogical desire to sign players regularly and within the space of a couple of minutes, people need reminding it's a game and real life business negotiations aren't as simple as a couple of lines of c++ code.

[CosbehFox]

Yet we can't seem to sign anyone when it does only take other clubs 48 to 72 hrs max to get a player in.

Rojo to Manchester United, Sanchez to Arsenal, Sanchez to Villa, Lukaku to Everton, Moreno to Liverpool. There's five examples off the top of my head where the transfer deals took between 2 to 3 weeks from speculation to conclusion.

[Guest Col city fan]

I think there are many reasons why we haven't signed more players:

1. I don't believe many players see us as a particularly attractive option. We aren't going to pay silly money, we aren't in London and we've only just got promoted.

2. Pearson will not just fill the squad with bodies.. I'm convinced he's a square peg for a square hole kinda bloke.

3. Our squad will be relatively unknown to some of the players we have been linked with. It's a squad full of team players but not 'big names'.

So, I fully agree with the Captain, a few posts earlier. We are really little fish in a big pond. Pearson needs to do what Martin O'Neil did. Get the players we have playing out of their skin for the club. Set us up in such a way that we are solid and hard to beat and seek out the little gems that are relatively unknown but who might join us and become super players for the club. That's my opinion.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I think there are many reasons why we haven't signed more players:

1. I don't believe many players see us as a particularly attractive option. We aren't going to pay silly money, we aren't in London and we've only just got promoted.

2. Pearson will not just fill the squad with bodies.. I'm convinced he's a square peg for a square hole kinda bloke.

3. Our squad will be relatively unknown to some of the players we have been linked with. It's a squad full of team players but not 'big names'.

So, I fully agree with the Captain, a few posts earlier. We are really little fish in a big pond. Pearson needs to do what Martin O'Neil did. Get the players we have playing out of their skin for the club. Set us up in such a way that we are solid and hard to beat and seek out the little gems that are relatively unknown but who might join us and become super players for the club. That's my opinion.

Good post Col

Where you been buddy?

[Corky]

What are you basing this on?  If you have evidence or fact to support this then fair enough.  It would be my thought that very very few deals (final day of the window apart) are wrapped up within three days.

 

He's basing it on nothing, we have no idea how long other transfers take, we only know how long OUR transfers are taking because we take an active interest from rumour to completion/ ending of interest.

 

We do need to sign players but we can't just stockpile the squad with anyone. This is a tough time for us because we will find it difficult to attract proven Premier League players from other clubs, whilst the top Championship players are either promoted along with us or at our club.

 

Pearson is probably trying his bollocks off to get players in but it's not simple at all.

[ZeljkoKalac1]

I believe Football manager has alot to do with this unthoughtful, illogical desire to sign players regularly and within the space of a couple of minutes, people need reminding it's a game and real life business negotiations aren't as simple as a couple of lines of c++ code.

 

Football Manager? In that case sign Tevez and Saviola, however I'm still on the 2002 version.... 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Fact is NP and the club keep their transfer dealings as close to their chests as possible, you, I and no other fvcker has any idea what is going on behind the scenes. 11 days left. We've only lost Lloyd Dyer from the squad that got us 102 points last season. If the 31st comes and goes and we haven't made another signing should we be worried? Yes, but it isn't the 31st, and we will make more signings. If we went out and panic brought 5 players tomorrow on Sven like contracts would you be chuffed we've quite literally 'made up the numbers?' Of course not. Calm down and see what happens.

[kingfox]

Everything is just too slow. Wages this, wages that if we have a bloody wage structure at Premier League level then quite frankly that's one massive joke. How are we meant to compete with other clubs, attract good players & look forward if we are branding around a silly wage cap. 

 

Players like Fanni, Cambiasso, Campbell etc... will not come here if we don't meet their demands, and what do we expect from them, it's hardly a surprise to be honest. It's an insult to them players tbh, and shows little ambition from ourselves. 

 

All we can hope for is if we delve into the not so big leagues, or pluck out some talent like we've done in Mahrez & Knockaert. If we want high quality names like Fanni & Cambiasso give them what they want, stop pissing about, or it will drag and drag and by the end of it, you've just wasted weeks of negotiating as they end up elsewhere. 

 

If we continue to go down that road, it will actually end up in panic buying, or we won't sign anybody at all.

[ealingfox]

Everything is just too slow. Wages this, wages that if we have a bloody wage structure at Premier League level then quite frankly that's one massive joke. How are we meant to compete with other clubs, attract good players & look forward if we are branding around a silly wage cap. 

 

Players like Fanni, Cambiasso, Campbell etc... will not come here if we don't meet their demands, and what do we expect from them, it's hardly a surprise to be honest. It's an insult to them players tbh, and shows little ambition from ourselves. 

 

All we can hope for is if we delve into the not so big leagues, or pluck out some talent like we've done in Mahrez & Knockaert. If we want high quality names like Fanni & Cambiasso give them what they want, stop pissing about, or it will drag and drag and by the end of it, you've just wasted weeks of negotiating as they end up elsewhere. 

 

If we continue to go down that road, it will actually end up in panic buying, or we won't sign anybody at all.

 

 

Arsenal have a wage structure.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Everything is just too slow. Wages this, wages that if we have a bloody wage structure at Premier League level then quite frankly that's one massive joke. How are we meant to compete with other clubs, attract good players & look forward if we are branding around a silly wage cap. 

 

Players like Fanni, Cambiasso, Campbell etc... will not come here if we don't meet their demands, and what do we expect from them, it's hardly a surprise to be honest. It's an insult to them players tbh, and shows little ambition from ourselves. 

 

All we can hope for is if we delve into the not so big leagues, or pluck out some talent like we've done in Mahrez & Knockaert. If we want high quality names like Fanni & Cambiasso give them what they want, stop pissing about, or it will drag and drag and by the end of it, you've just wasted weeks of negotiating as they end up elsewhere. 

 

If we continue to go down that road, it will actually end up in panic buying, or we won't sign anybody at all.

 

So we can go back down and absolutely fvkcing ruin the club with a ton of players on unsustainable wages who won't move on because they have it so good/easy? GREAT BANTER.

[sylofox]

Everything is just too slow. Wages this, wages that if we have a bloody wage structure at Premier League level then quite frankly that's one massive joke. How are we meant to compete with other clubs, attract good players & look forward if we are branding around a silly wage cap. 

 

Players like Fanni, Cambiasso, Campbell etc... will not come here if we don't meet their demands, and what do we expect from them, it's hardly a surprise to be honest. It's an insult to them players tbh, and shows little ambition from ourselves. 

 

All we can hope for is if we delve into the not so big leagues, or pluck out some talent like we've done in Mahrez & Knockaert. If we want high quality names like Fanni & Cambiasso give them what they want, stop pissing about, or it will drag and drag and by the end of it, you've just wasted weeks of negotiating as they end up elsewhere. 

 

If we continue to go down that road, it will actually end up in panic buying, or we won't sign anybody at all.

Every club has a wage structure it's just how much.

The problem with our fans the minute wages are mentioned it's gospel.

 

No one in here knows the truth about our wages they just think they do.