Transfer policy what's the problem?

[ktfox59]

Sorry but that's just nonsense.

The club just isn’t following the transfer policy that you think we should be following.

On Saturday, King, Hammond, Wood and Schlupp should have demonstrated to you that we are not “struggling”, nothing is “fundamentally wrong”, and no-one is “culpable”.

You think we should be spending lots of money on lots of new “Premiership quality” players.

The club thinks that we should be providing a positive working environment for the existing players to develop into “Premiership quality” players, and supplement this with a few very carefully selected additions to enhance what we already have.

The problem is your cast-iron belief that you are right beyond any shadow of doubt; and that the experienced professionals in charge of our club are rank amateurs who don’t know what they are doing.

To be fair. I think your last paragraph is a tad harsh. We all have views and thoughts daily on what we mainly hear is gong on at the club.

Im sure if it turns out anything as suffolk suggests you wont be posting any apology.

We are just giving or views.

[lcfcsnow]

Is there even a policy?

We seem happy with what we've got and all were trying to do is add experienced players through free transfers or on the cheap. Those players will usually want higher wages than the young prospects we signed to get us promoted though, so we'd be better off doing what we did pre promotion.

So much for this scouting system we had in place.

[Blanesta]

Pearson has made it pretty clear he doesn't want people knowing about his transfer dealings, so I can't see how you would come to a conclusion about something you know nothing about!

[ktfox59]

Is there even a policy?

We seem happy with what we've got and all were trying to do is add experienced players through free transfers or on the cheap. Those players will usually want higher wages than the young prospects we signed to get us promoted though, so we'd be better off doing what we did pre promotion.

So much for this scouting system we had in place.

. My thoughts exactly tbh.

[ktfox59]

At Crystal Palace it was rumoured that, along with the non signing of players, the manager wasnt happy that the chairman wanted to bring in Zaha over his head. So if this is to be believed then it does happen.

Now Nigel, who I am very happy with, may not be the kind of manager to just walk..again, but it doesnt mean he is really tip top over all this stuff going on around him but in his strange interview was talking the party line for the credibility of the club.

[Haydos]

I think there are many reasons why we haven't signed more players:

1. I don't believe many players see us as a particularly attractive option. We aren't going to pay silly money, we aren't in London and we've only just got promoted.

2. Pearson will not just fill the squad with bodies.. I'm convinced he's a square peg for a square hole kinda bloke.

3. Our squad will be relatively unknown to some of the players we have been linked with. It's a squad full of team players but not 'big names'.

So, I fully agree with the Captain, a few posts earlier. We are really little fish in a big pond. Pearson needs to do what Martin O'Neil did. Get the players we have playing out of their skin for the club. Set us up in such a way that we are solid and hard to beat and seek out the little gems that are relatively unknown but who might join us and become super players for the club. That's my opinion.

 

Nail on head, might just save this and post it in reply to all the plebs who think every transfer is going to be wrapped up within a few hours of us making contact.

[Haydos]

Football Manager? In that case sign Tevez and Saviola, however I'm still on the 2002 version.... 

 

I bought a Boca Juniors 2004 shirt with Tevez on the back and a 2003 Barce shirt with Saviola on, both purely on footy manager. That Boca shirt is a beut and I'm gonna lay claim to discovering Tevez.

[Haydos]

If we have offered less than they want, then they will just hold out. Players & agents aren't stupid, and if getting Cambiasso means we sign some of his Argentinian mates, then quite frankly that's a pathetic way to go about it. 

 

The possible thought of turning down players, just to bring in Cambiasso's mates just to keep him happy is beyond ludicrous.

 

Cambiasso will hold out for his demands, probably the reason why it's taken so god damn long, and if we keep pissing about like we've done in the past with other players, he won't come & will join elsewhere. 

 

This is just pure conjecture. Stop posting so much bollocks about something you know zero about.

[Babylon]

We seem happy with what we've got and all were trying to do is add experienced players through free transfers or on the cheap.

You think Ulloa for £8m and bidding on the likes of Deeney for £8m is on the cheap?

 

 

Is there even a policy?

We seem happy with what we've got and all were trying to do is add experienced players through free transfers or on the cheap. Those players will usually want higher wages than the young prospects we signed to get us promoted though, so we'd be better off doing what we did pre promotion.

So much for this scouting system we had in place.

 

So, what you want us to do is go out and buy a load of youngsters in the fashion we did previously, even though that style of recruitment took us two years to achieve our goals. Those players all needed time to progress, their form fluctuated wildly. We don't have that time or the luxury to be doing that again right now.

 

The transfer policy seems pretty clear at this moment. Players with experience of the English leagues, or player with lots of experience. Players who aren't going to cost the club a huge amount package wise on long contracts.

 

We could quite easily have gone out and taken risks on young foreign talent I'd imagine, but there are a lot of risks involved with that. Different country, language, style of football etc. That's why I'd imagine we're going for the likes of Ulloa and Deeney, players who have done well in the English lower leagues.

[ktfox59]

You think Ulloa for £8m and bidding on the likes of Deeney for £8m is on the cheap?

So, what you want us to do is go out and buy a load of youngsters in the fashion we did previously, even though that style of recruitment took us two years to achieve our goals. Those players all needed time to progress, their form fluctuated wildly. We don't have that time or the luxury to be doing that again right now.

The transfer policy seems pretty clear at this moment. Players with experience of the English leagues, or player with lots of experience. Players who aren't going to cost the club a huge amount package wise on long contracts.

We could quite easily have gone out and taken risks on young foreign talent I'd imagine, but there are a lot of risks involved with that. Different country, language, style of football etc. That's why I'd imagine we're going for the likes of Ulloa and Deeney, players who have done well in the English lower leagues.

But babs. That is was Nigel was telling us via the media. That most of the players they were looking at and scouting, we wouldnt have even heard of.

[jayfox26]

Is there even a policy?

We seem happy with what we've got and all were trying to do is add experienced players through free transfers or on the cheap. Those players will usually want higher wages than the young prospects we signed to get us promoted though, so we'd be better off doing what we did pre promotion.

So much for this scouting system we had in place.

It doesn't matter how good our scouting system is, if the right players aren't available at the right price/wages, then we will struggle to get players in. Other teams like Palace/ Burnley and a few others have all said they've found it hard to bring in new players. Again, you're just speculating, our scouting team could have found 10-15 players for us to sign for all you know, but as I said, these players may not have been available to us. Our squad is currently good, yes we need a 2-3 extra players but we dont need to panic and sign players for the sake of it. I still find it hard to understand why people question Pearson and his team when it comes to transfers, when the majority of his signings are spot on. Sometimes it can take longer to sign the right players. We don't want to go back to the Sven days and sign loads of players for the sake of it!

[Babylon]

But babs. That is was Nigel was telling us via the media. That most of the players they were looking at and scouting, we wouldnt have even heard of.

And you have no idea whether he meant it, was taking the piss out of fans lack of knowledge, just joking about. People need to stop grasping at that like it was a fact, more than a throw away comment that it very much sounded like to me when in context of the conversation.

 

I'm frustrated we haven't got people in and yes, it feels like it's been a struggle. But without the full facts, sitting here and slating our scouting team that has been pretty much spot on and got us in the position we are is just idiotic.

[Bayfox]

We are desperately in need of more players in certain positions? Np has even stated this. Yet we can't seem to sign anyone when it does only take other clubs 48 to 72 hrs max to get a player in.

Something has to be fudamentally wrong with our dealings in these matters. Who for gods sake is too blame? Someone has to be culpable?

Fanni has come and gone back, I am sick and tired of hearing about bloody Cambiasso.

We need to start signing players, sooner rather than later.

We must be struggling to name a 25 man squad.

Our strength in depth is getting beyond a joke. Is it the wage cap?

We need to realise we are Premier league you have to pay premier league money.

After all if you live in Knightsbridge you do't shop in Lidl.

Firstly what makes you so ITK to all other clubs transfer dealings that it only takes them hours to do a deal, deals can drag on for months over the summer, you are just assuming that as soon as the press get wind it must have only just started and then is sealed within hours.

The cambiasso deal was obviously something the club was trying to keep under wraps and was always going to be a difficult one due to his high earnings and as soon as 2 spanish clubs come in for a spanish speaker, who has played there before what was the likely outcome really?

We also have no idea if there is actually a wage cap, afterall Kasper is already rumoured to be over that one way or another and as for spending premier league money and shopping in Harrods, that went well for Pompey didn't it, I for one back the clubs stance that they know what they want to spend and what our current market is, let's establish ourselves, not bankrupt our club again.

Let' be honest in Man Utd and LVG can't get players in, then what chance do we have.

And as for our squad depth, we just took a point against the 5th best side in the country without, James, Vardy, Upson, Albighton, DD limped off and Was never set foot on the pitch. Let's not panic to early.

[kingfox]

This is just pure conjecture. Stop posting so much bollocks about something you know zero about.

 

So we just talk about nothing, speculation is speculation this is a forum where you talk about things like that.

 

If that's not the case, then Foxestalk can be shut down.

[Babylon]

So we just talk about nothing, speculation is speculation this is a forum where you talk about things like that.

 

If that's not the case, then Foxestalk can be shut down.

Talking about speculation is one thing, throwing your toys out the pram as though it's actually happening is another.

[Fox Ulike]

To be fair. I think your last paragraph is a tad harsh. We all have views and thoughts daily on what we mainly hear is gong on at the club.

Im sure if it turns out anything as suffolk suggests you wont be posting any apology.

We are just giving or views.

 

Perhaps. And no I wouldn’t post an apology because I’m not saying whether either approach is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’.

 

What I am calling nonsense is the view that Suffolk Fox is proposing, which goes something like this:

 

1. I would do things differently, and I am “right”.

2. Therefore the Club are “wrong”, and we are “struggling”.

3. Therefore someone is to blame.

 

That, my friend, is nonsense.

 

We have a clear policy which mainly involves the retention and motivation of key players.

 

QPR have a different policy which involves the recruitment of already established Premiership players to replace the team that got them promoted.

 

Whether it’s ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ will depend on the outcome of our season – but we drew with Everton and QPR lost to Hull. So there seems no reason to start jumping into the lifeboats screaming like little girls just yet!. J

[CosbehFox]

Do you really think that after all we know of Nigel and the way he speaks and works, that this Cambiasso saga is one he has a great deal of imput in? I cant believe it is. More that the owners are hell bent on a marquee signing to drive their duty free business on through lcfc throughout the world.

At 5m this may seem quite small chips considering the demands of other potential marquee signings.

Thats why I believe they are hanging on and are seemingly willing to give him anything he asks. Almost bizarre really as I dont think he really wants to be here.

Is this healthy for our club?

As you say. Just thoughts and assumptions from me here. But it all does look mighty strange.

If we gave him what he wanted, he'd be in a shot.

[CosbehFox]

But babs. That is was Nigel was telling us via the media. That most of the players they were looking at and scouting, we wouldnt have even heard of.

It was clear to me he was pulling Stringer on that one z

[coolhandfox]

Yawn, NP done a great job in the transfer market over the last few seasons, both in and out.

 

Best win percentage of any LCFC manager and has got us promoted too the PL after 10 years absence!

 

Surely that enough to earn everyones trust, he know what he's doing!

[Manwell Pablo]

Knew i would get the normal mongroid responses from blue tinted specs brigade?

However, we have had the best part of the summer to sign or at least assemble a squad competitive enougth to compete in the premiership.

Tomorrow is the 20th of the month. There are only eleven yes eleven days left of this transfer window.

We then can't sign anyone until January by then if we are in the bottom three it will be bloody hard to avoid relegation.

If we can't attract players now, with our policy what hope will we have in January?

I want us to stay in the premier league this is the place to be. Unless something changes it's going to be a short stay.

 

To be fair you just being an idiot so you deserve it. The only reason you think other clubs get their man in 48 to 72 hours is you aren't paying attention to them, other clubs have to chase players for a lengthy period of time as well, some last all summer, the Ashley Cole transfer saga for example. 

 

And a good performance against a good Everton side playing European football with a gutted midfield and our number 9 out says otherwise. 

[chapero82]

Yawn, NP done a great job in the transfer market over the last few seasons, both in and out.

Best win percentage of any LCFC manager and has got us promoted too the PL after 10 years absence!

Surely that enough to earn everyones trust, he know what he's doing!

This isn't about Pearson though it's about our negotiator

[Manwell Pablo]

This isn't about Pearson though it's about our negotiator

 

To be fair, I've herd some bad things about Old Man Steptoe as well...........

[Babylon]

This isn't about Pearson though it's about our negotiator

We don't know who it's about, if he's been instructed to keep us within a budget or not to go over a certain amount wage wise, then his hands are tied also.

 

We're all frustrated and I imagine they are also.

[foxinsox]

Who had heard of Mahrez before January? And he appears to be first choice in the PL.

Drinkwater, James, Albrighton and Vardy will all be back very shortly, like having four new signings.

Trust Pearson and his scouts, they know what they are doing!

[Haydos]

So we just talk about nothing, speculation is speculation this is a forum where you talk about things like that.

 

If that's not the case, then Foxestalk can be shut down.

 

There's speculating and then there's talking about things like they're fact like you're doing and going off on one based on nothing.

 

Mentioning that Alvarez has been linked and it possibly being something to do with the Cambi deal is one thing but I'm pretty sure there's been several people complaining about it like it's the truth.