Strokes Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 If it helps make other deals happen then it's not a bad price. Vardy is better than he has performed so far but his confidence is fragile, we need better. DEAL I think I was fair, I'm glad he stayed.
Jaspa Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 He's a unique player and worth what we value him at, he's under contract and he and the management seem to have a productive relationship. I'd regard him as a positive influence to the team and would be hard to replace, it could cost us 10m for Ulloa and around that for Kramaric too, you could say Ulloa has scored more but Vardy does different stuff for the team and is just as productive and resourceful yet people say 5mil would replace Vards. The thing that annoys me again is the fans, they flip flop with form and come out with stuff with the same caibre of nonsense consistently, there also seems to be a lack of emotional attachment to some players who have helped moved the club forward, one day we're dancing around after they help win us a game the next theyre not good enough and would happily be seen off to West Brom, Swansea or Villarreal.
RedSoxUK Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 I'm struggling. here He's been credited six assists (not the crap definition of fantasy football assist, the actual offical ones) that will include Cambiasso and Ulloa assists, the pens wont count as offical assists but add them on that will be 2+6 = 8 (half of which as you have pointed out, were in one game. And again your not really dissproving anything I'm saying really in fact your inadverntly backing it up, he had a hand in 5 goals alone against Manchester United. and since the begining of his recent run of form has scored 3 and setup at least another 2. My problem is the 7 odd months inbetween in which he did nothing but foul defenders and not play very well. Nothing against the lad it's just all this gushing because of a few games is just a little sickening. I mean 5 games without a goal at the start of next season and no doubt the lets sell him for a packet of crisps and a donut arguements will be back I get fed up with extremes. Oh I'm not trying to say he's been consistent or anything, but he has contributed to 40% of all our goals, no matter how you look at the stat, that's a fantastic return on form or off form. It says more about the disappearance of the team as a whole,not just Vardy who I agree has looked lost at times. On the grand scheme of things, he's done alright for himself, and I think Pullis being the shrewd manager he is, looks at Vardy's stats this season and last season, notices his work rate and pace and puts it together finding value for 5m. I'm trying to say, if we sell Vardy for 5m, we're getting the short straw because he definitely has another two / three seasons at his current work rate state, and his skill / quality as a player has been on the up since leaving Fleetwood without a doubt; I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet.
TheStig Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/west-brom-albion/transfer-talk/news/west-brom-want-vardy_219565.html West Bromwich Albion are reportedly looking to signLeicester City forward Jamie Vardy this summer. The 28-year-old has been in good form for the Foxes in his debut Premier League season, scoring four goals in 29 appearances. Vardy netted the winning goal against Burnley on Saturday as Nigel Pearson's side moved out of therelegation zone. West Brom head coach Tony Pulis has identified Vardy as his prime target as he begins to reshape his squad at The Hawthorns, according to The Mirror. However, it is thought that Vardy is happy in the East Midlands and would not leave should Pearson's men stay up. Southampton have also been linked with the former Fleetwood Town striker. Please tell me what should make Vardy go to WBA? FFS if it was one of the big guns but WBA. Cannnot believe it. I actually think that he has a lot of "feeling" for Leicester as we brought him out of the "lower" leagues and into big time football - guess he is enjoying himself here and the bond between him and Pearson - who "found" him has to be very good! And he is a "pain in the neck" or something lower to all opposition defenders and as far as I see it a morale lifter for the rest of the team by his incredible work ethic and speed!
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Oh I'm not trying to say he's been consistent or anything, but he has contributed to 40% of all our goals, no matter how you look at the stat, that's a fantastic return on form or off form. It says more about the disappearance of the team as a whole,not just Vardy who I agree has looked lost at times. On the grand scheme of things, he's done alright for himself, and I think Pullis being the shrewd manager he is, looks at Vardy's stats this season and last season, notices his work rate and pace and puts it together finding value for 5m. I'm trying to say, if we sell Vardy for 5m, we're getting the short straw because he definitely has another two / three seasons at his current work rate state, and his skill / quality as a player has been on the up since leaving Fleetwood without a doubt; I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet. Yeah it's not actually 40% though is it your stats are wrong (obviously some of the assists your naming don't meet criteria, team talk is not wrong the offical PL stats and ESPN back it up) But yes he's assist rate is good (goals not so much) We will see, I don't think 5 million is too far off, both performance statistical and future potential wise but you know. Hopefully he'll spend the whole of next season in form as opposed to snippets of it. When he's on it he's dangerous.
st albans fox Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 lets face it - the difference from vardy first season championship to second was huge. we have no idea if his improved form over recent weeks is a similar conversion. he may be even better next season if we do stay up. absolutely no point in selling him for les than 10 million as we really dont need the money and we know his value to any promotion push if nec next season will be massive.
RedSoxUK Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Yeah it's not actually 40% though is it your stats are wrong (obviously some of the assists your naming don't meet criteria, team talk is not wrong the offical PL stats and ESPN back it up) But yes he's assist rate is good (goals not so much) We will see, I don't think 5 million is too far off, both performance statistical and future potential wise but you know. Hopefully he'll spend the whole of next season in form as opposed to snippets of it. When he's on it he's dangerous. Him winning us two penalties which were scored are IMO a massive contribution to the goals we have scored, and if he hadn't we probably wouldn't have beaten Manchester United. 40%! I would value Vardy this summer at 8m minimum.
Strokes Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Him winning us two penalties which were scored are IMO a massive contribution to the goals we have scored, and if he hadn't we probably wouldn't have beaten Manchester United. 40%! I would value at Vardy this summer, 8m minimum. Would you take 7.95m, it's all I have?
RedSoxUK Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Would you take 7.95m, it's all I have? I'll take Berahino and 7.95m.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Not to sound like a gravel throated ginger twat but look at the market, if above average Championship strikers are worth well in excess of £5m then how isn't Vardy? He is.
ScouseFox Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 In the shake up for our POTS. Probably the reason we're on the way to survival with his recent form. We need him next season. how can anyone who was nothing short of diabolical for just under 5 months be in contention for player of the season? i love vards and i love that he's looking up to it once more but let's not joke about, from united at home to everton away (5 months) he literally did nothing right. at all.
LCFC FOX Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 £5million I'm not sure, I don't want him signing for west Brom. Vardy isn't doing great at the minute but if he can find form like the Manchester United game he's worth more. I'm hoping it's taking him a season to adjust and then next season he takes the premier league by storm. He's just one of them players I don't want to see go.
Haydos Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 I don't think so at all, I think it'd be quite easy to pick someone up with his qualities for 5 million if you spend it right and I'd argue that is infact over simplistic and naive to think another player could not of added more value to the team than Jamie Vardy has just because he's got three goals at albeit very important times. But that's just me. How much do people realistically think a 4 goal a season striker is worth? 10 or 20 million? I understand there has been a serious inflation in football but surely West Broms market valuation of him isn't far off? No his recent goals are worth more than five million to us but the are not goals that could of come from another source. We have struggled this season and I'd view some of his performances (and team performances when he has played) as a part of that. Jamie Vardy has not been a good player to have in our squad when he was out of form and not scoring goals. In fact, he was infuriating, very happy he has found some form along with plenty of others. Don't get me wrong I understand why Pearson has retained him and fully expected Pearson to retain him, he's a part of Pearsons setup and he see's value in his strengths and therefore continues to pick him and now he is a fans hero because he's scored a few goals which is all great we are all happy. My point is the idea that 5 million pounds really isn't that far off what most would consider his market value so I don't get why saying that is a reason for ridicule. I say again, how much do people realistically think he is worth? I thought I wrote somewhere in there or another post that I'd value him about as much as I would Ulloa. Value in football completely depends on who you are, it's not just how good a player is. Do we need to sell? No. Does he have a long time left on his contract? Yes. Have we lined up a replacement? No Do we have time to get a replacement in for good value? No. Are we selling to a rival? Yes. Are we financially well off? Yes. All these things increase his perceived value. I'd suggest his value based on ability alone would be around the £5m mark but everything else I've mentioned further adds to it. You might have missed my point about bringing in a replacement and how he fits into our team though. We brought in a goalscorer in Kramaric and he hasn't (had the chance) to set the world alight just yet. And you're not just 'a good squad player' at certain times, it's for the whole season. Squad players at clubs in relegation battles don't perform season-long, it just doesn't happen. It's the delusions-of-grandeur thing all over again. If he performs at his best level all season long, he's mentioned in the same breath as Charlie Austin and Harry Kane. This is why I said good squad player.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 You wouldn't want to sell for any price to a team that will be a relegation rival, stand by that, he scores the goals that sends us down next season, how good would that £5m be then?
Legend_in_blue Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Pointless moving to WBA. It's not even close to being a sideways move.
MC Prussian Posted 27 April 2015 Posted 27 April 2015 Pointless moving to WBA. It's not even close to being a sideways move. Let's not getting carried away here after four straight wins. We still need to prove further that we want to remain in this league comes May. As of right now, West Brom are in a better position of playing Premier League football next season.
tom27111 Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Some of the comments on this thread are brilliant! My particular favorite is "snap their hands off" on page 1
thybluefox Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Not sure there's much point digging these threads up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, none of us saw what's happening currently coming.
Fox92 Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Some of the comments on this thread are brilliant! My particular favorite is "snap their hands off" on page 1 Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Wasn't this thread put up when we as a team were looking dog-awful and Vardy couldn't hit a barn door? Put it into context and that will explain many of the posts.
Socks Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Dont worry, when Mr Potato head scores his hat-trick tonight. The spotlight will be off vardy
Babylon Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 He might well be, but people jumped to that conclusion about him in the championship and ended up being massively wrong. I like being exceptionally cautious about jumping to conclusions.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 I like being exceptionally cautious about jumping to conclusions. I've noticed...
Babylon Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 I've noticed... I prefer to have informed opinions.
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