Babylon Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 There has been several mysteries over the last year as to what has been going on this has certainly been 1 of the biggest 1s Do tell what the others are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Pearson presumably watched Albrighton every day in training. I'm not saying CR has got it wrong but who knows what the reasons are. There are always reasons for things, just because someone isn't picked doesn't mean there is a falling out, or sometimes even that the player isn't good enough. For all we know neither Albrighton's / Kramaric's application wasn't / isn't good enough. Or they weren't team players or their attitude wasn't correct, or their fitness wasn't up to scratch. Is you want to take the simplistic view of it Pearson was wrong to not play Albrighton. On the flip side of it, for all we know it could have been his time out of the team that sorted an issue we know nothing about. We all know how hot Pearson was on team ethic and players supporting others etc, it could be as simple as him not wanting whingers around the squad. We had all the same arguments about Pearson when Danns, Mills, Beckford, St Ledger weren't getting picked. People would only entertain the idea that it was Pearson's fault, it was his personal issue and that he wasn't doing what was right for the club... turned out he knew exactly what he was doing. As you say, who knows what the real story is. My view is both have proved themselves enough to get the benefit doubt and that they are doing what's right. I've certainly seen nothing from Kramaric to suggest it will be a massive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Must be insulting for Kram being called a fantastic player by Ranieri yet ulloa gets in the team ahead of him Like saying to Rachel.. You're stunning but I prefer to go out with Claire Balding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Joining Hoffenheim on loan. It's official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 There are always reasons for things, just because someone isn't picked doesn't mean there is a falling out, or sometimes even that the player isn't good enough. For all we know neither Albrighton's / Kramaric's application wasn't / isn't good enough. Or they weren't team players or their attitude wasn't correct, or their fitness wasn't up to scratch. Is you want to take the simplistic view of it Pearson was wrong to not play Albrighton. On the flip side of it, for all we know it could have been his time out of the team that sorted an issue we know nothing about. We all know how hot Pearson was on team ethic and players supporting others etc, it could be as simple as him not wanting whingers around the squad. We had all the same arguments about Pearson when Danns, Mills, Beckford, St Ledger weren't getting picked. People would only entertain the idea that it was Pearson's fault, it was his personal issue and that he wasn't doing what was right for the club... turned out he knew exactly what he was doing. As you say, who knows what the real story is. My view is both have proved themselves enough to get the benefit doubt and that they are doing what's right. I've certainly seen nothing from Kramaric to suggest it will be a massive mistake. my dilemma is thus, both ulloa and Okazaki have shared over half a season between them as the second striker, with the odd exception, neither has looked more then a 5/10, often less and very rarely more. can you honestly understand in that scenario why kramaric wouldn't have even been given a handful of 30 or 45 minute appearances, like Dr Pepper, what's the worst that could happen? I know what the best is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 my dilemma is thus, both ulloa and Okazaki have shared over half a season between them as the second striker, with the odd exception, neither has looked more then a 5/10, often less and very rarely more. can you honestly understand in that scenario why kramaric wouldn't have even been given a handful of 30 or 45 minute appearances, like Dr Pepper, what's the worst that could happen? I know what the best is. What's the worst that could happen? We play him, he gets one on one to win a game, bottles it and we miss out on winning the league by a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Hope he can bang in a few goals for them and start to put his career back together. Would be an even nicer bonus if he was able to come back next season and play a part for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 What's the worst that could happen? We play him, he gets one on one to win a game, bottles it and we miss out on winning the league by a point? haha true, but we'll miss it by four points thanks to Mahrez penalty misses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 I hope we don't lose him I'm really hoping Claudio sends him out on loan he gets a bagful of goals increases his mentality and confidence comes back to us sharp as anything and ends up being a great player for us !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 my dilemma is thus, both ulloa and Okazaki have shared over half a season between them as the second striker, with the odd exception, neither has looked more then a 5/10, often less and very rarely more. can you honestly understand in that scenario why kramaric wouldn't have even been given a handful of 30 or 45 minute appearances, like Dr Pepper, what's the worst that could happen? I know what the best is. He could be worse than they are, hence not actually getting picked.... especially when the team is doing just fine without him. Not sure why it's so difficult to imagine that being an actual reason. Or, as I put in my original, there is another reason other than just his ability that means he doesn't get picked. As Pearson used to say, sometimes he would have to get rid of a player who many perceive to have more ability than those left behind, because their attitude isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 He could be worse than they are. Hence not actually getting picked. Nah, it's not that. It's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Nah, it's not that. It's something else. Must be a fall out, got to be. Bloody Nigel Claudio and his ego. I might just copy and paste the whole Neil Danns thread from a few years ago and just swap the word "Danns" for Kramaric and "Pearson" for Ranieri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Must be a fall out, got to be. Bloody Nigel Claudio and his ego. I might just copy and paste the whole Neil Danns thread from a few years ago and just swap the word "Danns" for Kramaric and "Pearson" for Ranieri. Haha, that'd probably make for a good read. Ranieri clearly doesn't like what he sees in training/behind closed doors, which doesn't say much for the lad considering Okazaki and Ulloa especially haven't exactly pulled up trees this season. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with a club that actually wants him there. I'm definitely going to be following Hoffenheim to see how he gets on with them. They're only a win away from jumping up 3 or 4 places so he's not joined a particularly desperate situation. Hope he goes and scores a few goals for them and helps them stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 People see players so differently. Some see brilliant centre-forwards. Others see temperamental misfits. I've still got no idea why Kramaric was signed. It's like buying a waste bin and using a cardboard box for your rubbish instead. What point is there in keeping anything or anyone around that doesn't serve a purpose? Is he any good? No idea! He's had less sunlit exposure than a bottom dweller in the Marianas Trench. We could have signed every down and out on the city streets for less than I imagine we're we're paying him - and at least provided a valuable social service. Instead he's been left in a siding for forgotten footballers like a steam engine waiting for the scrapyard. What he's done/not done or who he's upset I've no idea but there's no clear signs of his star being reborn. Stories keep emerging about this club or that club wanting him. It seems to have gone on so long I think the Duke of Wharton's HellFire Club was the first mentioned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Must be a fall out, got to be. Bloody Nigel Claudio and his ego. I might just copy and paste the whole Neil Danns thread from a few years ago and just swap the word "Danns" for Kramaric and "Pearson" for Ranieri. Please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 I really wanted Kram to be good. Don't know why, but I really did. Still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Finsbury Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 I said something similar when people were suggesting that we loaned out Matt James for first team experience but if he goes on loan, that'll be the last we see of him. I doubt very much that we'll see him in a Leicester shirt. If he shines on loan, then his value goes up and we cash in. If he stinks, we'll move him on anyway. There's a reason that Claudio isn't playing him and I don't believe it's because Ulloa is more suited to our current system at all. It looks to me like it's a preference for reasons other than merely playing style. I'd love to have seen him be a first team regular as I still find it hard to believe that he's not got the potential to be a great footballer. We have faith in Walsh and when you think Chelsea were also interested, he must have something. However, I have to place my trust in the manager and assume he knows what he's doing. He's done a very good job so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagofox Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 I really wanted Kram to be good. Don't know why, but I really did. Still do. Could it be because you want every player that we sign to be good? Or are you selective with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Possibly, but I don't feel the same about Inler or Benny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Possibly, but I don't feel the same about Inler or Benny. Get them all on the Jeremy Kyle show ... He'll sort you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 This seems to be lingering on more than it's been expected, possibly for a few months too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKante Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 This thread has gone on longer than expected too! I think he'll be out the door this time next week,,, unfortunately! But all the best to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 Kram hasn't really achieved his anticipated standard, and obviously is not ready/suited to Premier league football. Disappointing I know, but what will be will be, or not, as the case may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Posted 19 January 2016 Share Posted 19 January 2016 According to this article, Kramaric is having a medical at Hoffenheim and will be introduced tomorrow as their player until the end of the season: http://www.vecernji.hr/nogomet/andrej-kramaric-na-lijecnickom-pregledu-u-hoffenheimu-uskoro-i-predstavljanje-1053221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 20 January 2016 Share Posted 20 January 2016 Just arrived at Hoffenheim's training ground in Germany yesterday afternoon: http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/hoffenheim/neue-sturm-hoffnung-andrej-kramaric-ist-da-44215196.bild.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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