norwichfox Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 and are we likely to fall foul of them if we get all of the players we're currently after....I really don't understand how they're applied thank you kindly for any answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollism Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 4 August 2015 Author Share Posted 4 August 2015 Make that nobody +1.... And in last place with minus 43 points..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Based on profit/loss as far as i'm aware. Forest are getting killed because of their wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 As I understand owners are now allowed to bank-roll clubs... but cannot look to claim any money back, it allows for growth of clubs with the financial security that the owner can't come knocking down the line. However if the owner doesn't shell any money out of his own pocket then they are purely reliant on the clubs turnover which is where FFP will govern what they can spend. In Forest case they have been hit by FFP which is causing them headaches, had they not their owners could bank-roll them. This is what was explained to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznan34 Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Think its still the same as a couple of years ago: From: http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 They seem to exist to **** off English clubs. Then when psg want to spend money. They dissappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Basically, we're able to do this whilst others have to make do with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 I think Tony Fernandez wrote the rulebook on ffp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 4 August 2015 Author Share Posted 4 August 2015 Many thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Based on profit/loss as far as i'm aware. Forest are getting killed because of their wage bill. Forest haven't a problem with their wage bill, they just don't pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 It's a rule that can be easily bent, bent like the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 4 August 2015 Share Posted 4 August 2015 Don't worry about it. There's an ongoing court case to challenge UEFA on the grounds of EU employment laws and how it impacts players and agents potential earnings. It won't exist for long. Basically it's a Platini crusade to stop English clubs dominating. The lawyer who argued the case for Jean-Marc Bosman is on board as far as I'm aware. There is also a case in the European courts bought by fans of Manchester City and PSG to argue how unfair it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Only one problem with FFP it's all bollox. Try to put a value of Leicester city 5 Man Utd 3 to the king Power brand? 1 million,5 million,10 million, 20 million,50 million? a noble idea but could never work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Claw II Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 There is also a case in the European courts bought by fans of Manchester City and PSG to argue how unfair it is. A PSG or Man City fan talking about 'fair' is a bit rich! Given the number of administrations and players not getting paid (more in Spain) it is actually a very good idea in principle. They need time to work on it and improve it. Given Spain's TV rights will be more evenly spread it could well lead to English teams dominating again in the future especially if PL TV rights continue to soar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcarr21 Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Dont spend what you havent got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1742 Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Pearson did a great job for us. Had to dismantle Svens expensive team, then buy lower waged players to work within FFP. I recall people saying we needed to buy this and that, yet we had to remove people who didn't want to leave because of their high wages. Not worried at the moment, as our in comings from Sky mean we have lots to spend at the moment. Big issue will be if we haven't put going down clauses in contracts. If that hasn't happened, we will be treading water for years if we go down and players don't leave. Clever folk at the helm at our club though, they will have it all covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Rich clubs think it's unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Rich clubs think it's unfair. Southampton voted against it, and they're quite a wealthy club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Southampton voted against it, and they're quite a wealthy club. Hmm that's why I said rich clubs think it's unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 5 August 2015 Author Share Posted 5 August 2015 Not worried at the moment, as our in comings from Sky mean we have lots to spend at the moment. So lets hope their satellites don't fall out back down to earth...that would instantly throw the game (and most other professional sports) into meltdown, all the mercenaries would be heading to their homelands unsatisfied with the income support they'd be getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairy Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 It does not matter anyway as the League back down as they have with QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Depends which way you see it. It either makes a club live within their means (Can't be bankrolled to the top), or it protects the already 'elite' clubs as the financial rules in place won't allow a semi-decent team to challenge. Plenty of ways around FFP for the time being, and the rules are being relaxed a little. However, punishments aren't particularly good. Fine a club for spending too much money? Rubbish. Clubs like S Bucharest or Dinamo Moscow may get bans from entering European competitions but realistically clubs like Manchester City and Roma won't, that's the sad part. Live within your means (unless you're a big club). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Have FIFA ever made it clear exactly what the punishments are if you fail to comply with FFP? QPR essentially rolled the dice to get promoted the premier league when we went up and if they'd have stayed up it would've been welk worth it. I'm almost certain we are compliant with it after te job we did after the Sven debacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank to be Posted 5 August 2015 Share Posted 5 August 2015 Pearson did a great job for us. Had to dismantle Svens expensive team, then buy lower waged players to work within FFP. I recall people saying we needed to buy this and that, yet we had to remove people who didn't want to leave because of their high wages. Not worried at the moment, as our in comings from Sky mean we have lots to spend at the moment. Big issue will be if we haven't put going down clauses in contracts. If that hasn't happened, we will be treading water for years if we go down and players don't leave. Clever folk at the helm at our club though, they will have it all covered. Pearson lowering expenditure is actually a myth. The released accounts show that he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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