Terrorist Attacks

[ClaphamFox]

55 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

4 US Marines dead is the latest. Hope Biden is pleased with himself.

Tragically this will just be the beginning. Even though the Taliban and ISIS-K are not exactly allies, there is no doubt that the Taliban's return to power will once again turn Afghanistan into a vast safe haven/training camp for terrorists. This in turn will lead to many more people dying in suicide bombs and mass shootings etc on the streets of the US, UK and elsewhere It's not a matter of if this will happen, but of when.

 

And all because Joe Biden wanted to honour a daft campaign pledge that he just made up without giving any thought to it.

 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, SecretPro said:

4 US Marines dead is the latest. Hope Biden is pleased with himself.

 

im no Biden fan.. far from it in fact but even I can’t pin this on him…. Trump  would have had the troops out even quicker if given the chance…

[Raj]

This is just a shit, shit story with no good news in the near future.

A complete feck up, so so sad for this nation, tgeres just no end to the bad shit they have to go through

[MPH]

10 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Tragically this will just be the beginning. Even though the Taliban and ISIS-K are not exactly allies, there is no doubt that the Taliban's return to power will once again turn Afghanistan into a vast safe haven/training camp for terrorists. This in turn will lead to many more people dying in suicide bombs and mass shootings etc on the streets of the US, UK and elsewhere It's not a matter of if this will happen, but of when.

 

And all because Joe Biden wanted to honour a daft campaign pledge that he just made up without giving any thought to it.

 

 

see above 

[Fox92]

:/

 

 

 

[ClaphamFox]

15 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

see above 

Being less bad than Trump is a pretty low bar to clear. Besides, Biden has been in power since the beginning of the year. This didn't have to happen.

Edited 26 August 2021 by ClaphamFox

[Raj]

Commander Kenneth McKenzie  has told the Taliban what they expect  of them in protecting people.

Yeah ok chief...

The enemy of my enemy is also my friend.....

The Taliban wont help the Allied forces, they will be in league with this latest formulation  of ISIS.

 

 

[MPH]

23 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Being less bad than Trump is a pretty low bar to clear. Besides, Biden has been in power since the beginning of the year. This didn't have to happen.

 valid point.

 

 

 

 

I really really really dislike what is effectively a 2-party system.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

53 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Tragically this will just be the beginning. Even though the Taliban and ISIS-K are not exactly allies, there is no doubt that the Taliban's return to power will once again turn Afghanistan into a vast safe haven/training camp for terrorists. This in turn will lead to many more people dying in suicide bombs and mass shootings etc on the streets of the US, UK and elsewhere It's not a matter of if this will happen, but of when.

 

And all because Joe Biden wanted to honour a daft campaign pledge that he just made up without giving any thought to it.

 

All true it's sad to say. How many terrorists will homed around the world, in the guise of being a refugee? One of my reasons for wanting stricter immigration controls in the UK.

[MPH]

2 hours ago, SecretPro said:

4 US Marines dead is the latest. Hope Biden is pleased with himself.

 

Now confirmed 12 US Marines have died.  Taliban saying it happened in a US controlled area, US saying these people should have been checked by Taliban forces on the outskirts of the airport before being let in…

 

 

 

All a bit of a disaster!

[yorkie1999]

With isis now becoming a threat again, how many have descended on our shores? 

[Buce]

12 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

All true it's sad to say. How many terrorists will homed around the world, in the guise of being a refugee? One of my reasons for wanting stricter immigration controls in the UK.

 

There is a rapidly growing threat from white, British born right-wing terrorists - what's your view on that?

 

"Since the late 1990s, the threat to UK security from far-right terrorism has been considered to have been of minor concern compared to Islamist or Northern Ireland-related terror. However, within the past few years there has been a growth in concern about rising levels of far-right extremism. With the ideology spreading via the internet amongst a young audience, is it possible that far-right terrorism could become the major domestic threat to UK security?

It has been noted that in recent years there has been a disturbing increase in the frequency and intensity of far-right terrorism, both in the West in general and in the UK specifically. This has led to debate on the nature and extent of the threat and questions on whether far-right terrorism may overtake Islamist terrorism as the greatest internal security threat that the UK and other Western countries face. Ken McCallum, Director-General of MI5, has warned that right-wing extremism has developed into a serious issue for the UK, and Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu has stated that this issue continues to grow rapidly.

Current Threats

Islamist terrorism currently remains the most pertinent threat to the UK’s domestic security, with the majority of the domestic security forces’ focus centred on that threat. Around three quarters of terrorist prisoners in the UK are categorised as Islamist extremists and Islamist groups or individuals were behind 19 of the 27 terrorist plots that were stopped from coming to fruition in the past three years. 

The remaining 8 plots were all perpetrated by far-right extremists, making them now the second-biggest ‘terrorist’ threat that domestic security forces face. This was not the case five years ago, and other statistics point to the increasing prevalence of far-right extremism amongst the terrorism landscape. Last year the number of far-right terrorist convictions rose by over a third. Whilst Islamist extremists do make up the largest number of terrorist prisoners, that number has been largely static in the past few years, meaning far-right convictions have increased as a proportion to now-record levels. This is reflective of a pan-Western trend, with the Global Terrorism Survey reporting a 250 per cent increase in far-right terrorist attacks across Europe, North America and Australasia since 2014.

The most pressing statistic concerns the rising influence of far-right ideology on the young. The number of under 18s associated with right-wing extremism referred to the PREVENT program has been rising – both in absolute and relative terms – since 2015 and now is roughly equal to the number of referrals for Islamist radicalisation. Of all those referred, around a quarter of the most concerning cases are taken into the Channel process, of which the largest group now are far-right extremists (making up 43 per cent of referrals, compared to Islamist extremists at 30 per cent). It is the increasing prevalence of far-right extremism amongst the young that is of particular concern to AC Neil Basu, who noted that 10 out of the 12 under 18s who were convicted on terrorism charges last year were linked to the far-right. There are concerns that the rapidity of the ideology’s growth amongst the youth will mean far-right extremism will relatively soon outstrip Islamist extremism to emerge as the major domestic security threat to the UK.

Long-Term Trends

There are a number of underlying causes and factors that may suggest that far-right extremism will continue to grow until it becomes the major threat. This is already the case in the US, where far-right terrorists account for a majority of both attacks and fatalities. The threat from far-right extremism is emerging too as the major domestic security threat in Germany, and the number of carried out attacks suggest that the UK is the next most at-risk country.

There are several underlying factors that suggest the rise of far-right terrorism may continue. Firstly, existing societal and economic factors are being exacerbated by the global pandemic. Economic stagnation and loss of employment opportunities provide fertile recruiting grounds for far-right extremists. Additionally, COVID-related isolation may help push people into radicalisation via the internet. These two factors are more likely to drive the growth of far-right rather than Islamist extremism, where recruitment is more often carried out via personal connections and driven by foreign policy.

Secondly, and of major concern to counter-terrorism professionals, is the growing ability of far-right groups to coalesce and organise. Organisation into groups and cells is what helps propel radicalised individuals into carrying out terrorist action, providing target identification, planning support, technical expertise and supplies. Islamist terrorism at its most devastating has been characterised by semi-organised structures with a single unifying purpose, like that of Al-Qaeda and ISIL. These do not yet exist in Europe but Ken McCallum has warned that “bitty, but meaningful international connectivity” has begun to emerge, in a way that was not present a few years ago. 

That having been said, there are also reasons to think that far-right terrorism may not develop into the major threat. Large ideological schisms exist within the far-right milieu (such as disagreements over anti-Semitism, capitalism, and violent vs democratic action) that keep far-right activity fractured. Far-right groups also tend to disintegrate due to infighting at a higher rate than Islamist groups do. Additionally, law enforcement may find far-right groups easier to infiltrate and monitor, as there would not be any linguistic or cultural barriers to surmount.

Conclusion

The vulnerability of a young demographic to far-right ideology is worrying, and it is highly likely that against a backdrop of populism and economic stagnation right-wing extremism will continue to grow in Europe and in the UK. However, it is unlikely that the threat from far-right terrorism will outstrip Islamist-related terror. Far-right terrorism is likely to persist in the form of ‘lone-wolf’ attacks, with there existing too many barriers to collective purpose and action.

However, UK domestic security professionals should be wary of a single, unifying purpose emerging amongst the far-right milieu. This is already happening to an extent in the US via the growth of the QAnon conspiracy, and with anti-migrant rhetoric in Germany. Emergence of single purpose would mean groups and individuals would not have to extensively integrate, but would feel compelled to act and to cause violence. In this circumstance far-right terrorism could approach the scale of Islamist terror felt in the West over the past two decades."

 

https://globalriskinsights.com/2021/04/future-trends-far-right-terrorism-in-the-uk-a-major-threat/

 

 

[Phil Bowman]

22 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

How many terrorists will homed around the world, in the guise of being a refugee?

Impossible to answer.

But I’m pretty sure it’s not as many as the number of refugees who won’t be homed around the world, on the grounds that they might be a terrorist.

[Wymsey]

3 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

With isis now becoming a threat again, how many have descended on our shores? 

I have this same opinion, but hope no-one thinks I'm racist because of this view etc..

Edited 26 August 2021 by Wymsey

[Phil Bowman]

2 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

I have this same opinion, but hope no-one thinks I'm racist because of this view etc..

Nobody will think you’re racist for wondering if people with bad intentions might be taking advantage of chaos to move around the world.

They will if you go on from that to not wanting brown refugees to come into the country because they might be terrorists.

 

Basically it’s quite easy to make sure that people don’t think you’re a racist because of your opinions - just don’t express racist opinions!

[yorkie1999]

10 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

I have this same opinion, but hope no-one thinks I'm racist because of this view etc..

How is it racist being concerned about the relative ease of terrorists getting into this country across the Channel , and there’s literally thousands of people getting here with no security checks.

Edited 26 August 2021 by yorkie1999

[Dr The Singh]

Horrible

[yorkie1999]

If the Taliban want to be taken seriously as a governing body, they have to disassociate themselves from  terrorist groups like isis. The next few days will tell us more about Afghanistans fate  

[RobHawk]

The real question is, how long until there's an Isis attack on American soil that leads the US to taking over Afghanistan in the new war on terror. 

 

Guarantee it will happen at some point. It's all very dumb and a huge shame that innocent lives will be lost because of this idiotic decision

[MPH]

1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

With isis now becoming a threat again, how many have descended on our shores? 

 With regards to attacking us on our shores…

 

 

Do you really think they would wait until AFTER we have left Afghanistan to cause propblems? Not like, attack us when we were actually ‘occupying’ and ‘controlling’ things in Afghanistan?

Edited 26 August 2021 by MPH

[Lionator]

Calls of a re-establishment of ISIS and subsequent attacks on American and European soil are completely premature. 

 

Remember a lot of the issues regarding ISIS and the West were based around Iraq and Syria. Afghanistan is a completely different warzone, with completely different issues. The Taliban will absolutely not want Afghanistan to become some hotbed for terrorism as this will just eventually lead to their loss of power. Indeed the Taliban and ISIS have very different ideologies, albeit I don't agree with what the Taliban stand for, they are not the ruthless savages which ISIS are. They are an Islamist dictatorship, incidentally they stand for pretty much the same as the leadership of Saudi Arabia and the UAE who we will happily call our allies. If the Taliban would provide us with the natural resources that we crave, they would be painted as the 'good side', of that I have no doubt.

 

And for anyone who thinks Afghan refugees are going to come here and start attacking British people, you're wrong, very very wrong. 

[MPH]

3 hours ago, Raj said:

Commander Kenneth McKenzie  has told the Taliban what they expect  of them in protecting people.

Yeah ok chief...

The enemy of my enemy is also my friend.....

The Taliban wont help the Allied forces, they will be in league with this latest formulation  of ISIS.

 

 

 

pretty sure the taliban solders let the guy through with the suicide vest accidentally on purpose..  they were the ones suppose to be manning the check points leading up to the airport 

[Collymore]

Always amazes me how politics spills over on topics like this.

 

 

[yorkie1999]

3 hours ago, MPH said:

 With regards to attacking us on our shores…

 

 

Do you really think they would wait until AFTER we have left Afghanistan to cause propblems? Not like, attack us when we were actually ‘occupying’ and ‘controlling’ things in Afghanistan?

Yes. IMO the ideal time to  attack is when one side is retreating, 

[Carl the Llama]

Just outstanding