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Formation issues, how should we play?

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Posted

De leat is a weak point imo, 1 good game shouldn't cover all the errors he makes, Schluup isn't a LB and Fuschs needs to step in, Benny looked good against West Ham so he should be given a chance considering all the goals we are leaking.

 

Defence is our problem right now, sort that out and we should be fine.

Posted

Oh, look, De Laet is the scapegoat again.

 

Answer this: with his helpful presence up the field, who would do better than him (especially as he's considered a wing-back*)?

 

 

He has been used as a wing-back largely under Pearson, but Ranieri is adopting this trend too now.

 

Very much doubt the Tunisian guy and Was would assist the wingers.

Posted

Oh, look, De Laet is the scapegoat again.

 

Answer this: with his helpful presence up the field, who would do better than him (especially as he's considered a wing-back*)?

 

 

He has been used as a wing-back largely under Pearson, but Ranieri is adopting this trend too now.

 

Very much doubt the Tunisian guy and Was would assist the wingers.

 

Play 3 at the back Fuschs as left wing back and Albrighton/Dyer on the right.

 

De leat is a liability, even Pearson didn't like playing him.

Posted

I'm not convinced dropping Schlupp from defence is the best idea.

 

If our strength is counter-attacking, then Schlupp as a wing back is a great asset.

Posted

3-4-1-2

Kasper

Huth

Benny/Fuchs

Morgan

Schlupp

Kante

DD

Albrighton

Mahrez(not central, where ever he needs to be, basically freedom)

Vardy

Ulloa/Kramaric

Posted

3-4-1-2

Kasper

Huth

Benny/Fuchs

Morgan

Schlupp

Kante

DD

Albrighton

Mahrez(not central, where ever he needs to be, basically freedom)

Vardy

Ulloa/Kramaric

 

This; well at least in terms of formation.  :thumbup:

 

Kasper

 

Morgan

Huth

Benny

Schlupp

Kante

DD

Albrighton

Mahrez

Vardy

Ulloa

Posted

Since when has Mahrez been better central? He has barely played there, and when he has, he has been mostly ineffective.

Southampton at home - Scored two.

Villa second half - pretty much created all three goals.

 

Don't know if it's his better position, but I certainly wouldn't say he's been ineffective in that position.

Posted

Agree with the majority in saying we need to go back to the back 3. Yes we have had a good start, but defensively we have looked wide open in pretty much every game and could have easily lost games that we have drew and won. The back end of last season we looked solid defensively as well as pretty effective going forward.

Kasper

 

Wasyl/Benny

Huth

Morgan

 

Albrighton

Kante
Drinkwater

Schlupp

 

Mahrez

 

Ulloa

Vardy

Posted

At home:

 

Schmeichel

 

De Laet

Morgan

Huth

Fuchs

 

Kante

Drinkwater

 

Dyer

Mahrez

Schlupp

 

Vardy

 

Away:

 

Schmeichel

 

Benalouane

Huth

Morgan

 

Albrighton

Kante

Drinkwater

Fuchs

 

Mahrez

 

Vardy

Ulloa

Posted

Agree with the majority in saying we need to go back to the back 3. Yes we have had a good start, but defensively we have looked wide open in pretty much every game and could have easily lost games that we have drew and won. The back end of last season we looked solid defensively as well as pretty effective going forward.

Kasper

 

Wasyl/Benny

Huth

Morgan

 

Albrighton

Kante

Drinkwater

Schlupp

 

Mahrez

 

Ulloa

Vardy

I really cant see why we are not playing this line up. We can attack, score goals and defend with 5 at the back, obviously it all relies on pace at wing back, but that's what we have in schlupp and albrighton. If we go ahead we get the option of either pushing on or switching to 4 at the back.  It just seems to me were going to go 3/4 of the season rediscovering what was known to be a good system for us in the first place. We need a tifo with this formation on it.

Posted

Oh, look, De Laet is the scapegoat again.

 

Answer this: with his helpful presence up the field, who would do better than him (especially as he's considered a wing-back*)?

 

 

He has been used as a wing-back largely under Pearson, but Ranieri is adopting this trend too now.

 

Very much doubt the Tunisian guy and Was would assist the wingers.

he can't cross and never shoots so what helpful presence does he have up the field?

Posted

he can't cross and never shoots so what helpful presence does he have up the field?

He's not in defence to cock up... that's helpful in a way. :D

Posted

Southampton at home - Scored two.

Villa second half - pretty much created all three goals.

Don't know if it's his better position, but I certainly wouldn't say he's been ineffective in that position.

Can't remember Southampton but I'm pretty sure he moved back to the wing against villa after some other substitutions having not done much centrally

Posted

3 at the back was great but I can't help but think 4 at the back is the long term solution. 3 at the back invites teams to double up on the wings and push our wing backs back, which creates loads of space for us on the break.

Mahrez needs to decide if he is a number 10 or a winger. If he is a winger, he learns to track back. It's part of a winger's job. If he wants to be a number 10 shift Dyer or Albrighton to the right.

Posted

Get rid of De Laet for a better right back then. I'd much rather that than limit Mahrez's ability to cut in from wide which is how he gets the vast majority of his goals and assists.

What?

One of his few problems come when he isolated on the wing.

When he's central he is not isolated.

When he's central he doesn't have go go round three players to get to the danger zone.

Him out on the wing is a lot easier for defenders - the can only go left - if he goes right the ball is out of play. Centrally he has double the options, and the defenders double the problems. It's a complete no brainer.

And I echo earlier poster's point. Southampton and 2nd half Villa is the evidence against your claim.

Posted

I'm not convinced dropping Schlupp from defence is the best idea.

If our strength is counter-attacking, then Schlupp as a wing back is a great asset.

Not sure I understand what you are saying here.

Schlupp has been shocking in defence this season so why not drop him from the DEFENCE?

If we need him in an attacking sense simply play him further forward

Posted

Not sure I understand what you are saying here.

Schlupp has been shocking in defence this season so why not drop him from the DEFENCE?

If we need him in an attacking sense simply play him further forward

except he hasn't been shocking in defence this season he's been average, same as the CB's we get ripped apart down our right hand side, last time I checked that wasn't where Schlupp was playing

Posted

This my stab 3-4-1-2: 

 

                                                 Kasper

 

                       Benaloune           Huth          Wasilewski

 

Albrighton            Drinkwater                  Kante              Schlupp/Fuchs

                                                

                                                 Mahrez

 

                            Vardy                               Ulloa

Posted

This my stab 3-4-1-2: 

 

                                                 Kasper

 

                       Benaloune           Huth          Wasilewski

 

Albrighton            Drinkwater                  Kante              Schlupp/Fuchs

                                                

                                                 Mahrez

 

                            Vardy                               Ulloa

Lots of foxestalk saying this formation. Maybe it should be posted on Union FS tifo display if things don't go well tomorrow.

Posted

As mentioned go with 3 centre backs, I would like to see Benloaloune,Huth and Fuchs in that role

Albrighton and Sclupp wing backs

Kante, Drinkwater and Mahrez in midfield

Vardy and Ulloa up top.

That would give us great balance in the side

Posted

Whatever people might like we'll play 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1. Four from Drinkwater, King, Kante and Inler will form the central midfield three because two's not enough and that's been apparent on many occasions before Pearson started playing a midfield five. 

 

For all his individual brilliance Mahrez is problem child number one but there are so many others including our centre-backs, our full-backs, the forever frustrating Schlupp and who, if anybody to partner Vardy.

 

Ranieri has stated constantly that his first responsibility is to collect the points necessary for survival and will have been appalled at the benevolent way we conceded five goals and chances aplenty.

 

He might even play Inler (he dearly wants to) and leave King as the main midfield option off the bench. But either way it wouldn't surprise me if we play the way we did against Spurs.

 

Two supposedly impregnable banks of 4/4 or 4/5 in front of Kasper to keep the game tight with Vardy plus our wide men trying to plunder something from next to nothing.

 

Attacking with abandon will be forgotten because we don't really have the team to move forwards and backwards as a fluid unit as Arsenal emphasised with interest!.

 

However we play I can't see Norwich failing to score - Morgan and Huth aren't playing with anything like last season's assurance -  so 1-1's the best I'm hoping for.         

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