What is wrong with St George's Day celebrations?

[digitalalba]

That's probably because Leicester's Divali celebrations is one of the biggest outside of India. The Caribbean Carnival the biggest in the UK outside London. If enough people were interested in celebrating a big St. George's Day carnival in Leicester there would probably be one. As it is, there isn't enough interest.

That could be true, but it could also be true that our left leaning council, who are not Nationalistic, and in fact, hate Nationalism, don't encourage Nationalism through STGD, for fear people will vote against them.

 

Divali, Gay Pride, Carribean carnival, diversity projects etc etc - all lefty things, that's why they spend our taxes on them.

So what have you personally done to actually try and get a celebration going for St George's Day?

How interested are you in my answer?

[Voll Blau]

That could be true, but it could also be true that our left leaning council, who are not Nationalistic, and in fact, hate Nationalism, don't encourage Nationalism through STGD, for fear people will vote against them.

 

Divali, Gay Pride, Carribean carnival, diversity projects etc etc - all lefty things, that's why they spend our taxes on them.

How interested are you in my answer?

 

Very. If you can moan about something on an internet forum you can damned well get off your arse and do something about it, rather than blaming others.

[ScouseFox]

what i don't get is what do people want to "celebrate" it with? nothing's stopping you going out and having a bev with whoever you want. it's a saturday tomorrow too man just go and have a load of local ales an sing jerusalem on the way home. 

 

paddy's day never has much genuine organised events, there's just a few more people in town, some in stupid fancy dress and a few bars an clubs charge more for entry or drinks. it's not like anything decent actually happens. 

[digitalalba]

Very. If you can moan about something on an internet forum you can damned well get off your arse and do something about it, rather than blaming others.

It doesn't sound like it. It seems as though, judging from your negative reaction, that all you want to do is critisize me.

 

Is this a true reflection?

[Voll Blau]

It doesn't sound like it. It seems as though, judging from your negative reaction, that all you want to do is critisize me.

 

Is this a true reflection?

 

Not if you've actually tried to organise something yourself. I'll applaud your efforts. Have you?

[lgfualol]

Honestly if I hadn't seen this post, I would have never know it was tomorrow. 

[Rincewind]

I think there is a St George beer festival at the Black Horse Aylestone. Anyone that really cares about it can go along and wave a flag or two. The rest of  us will just enjoy the ales.

Anyone that is bothered about it could always organise an event themselves like others have done. The Divali and Caribbean carnival (they are for all not just lefties) are organised privately (by righties lefties and middlies)  and they have to pay for the privilege. There are other events throughout the year which are for all regardless of race, colour or political standing.  Which goes  to show the wonderful diversity this city has. The Carnival has actually gone down in the popular stakes in recent years and was  in danger of being cancelled last year.

 

Leicester  Day

Riverside Festival

Music  in the Park

Xmas lights. Street and Town Hall 

 

Re the Saints I believe Spain has a Saint  day at least once a Month. They know how to party over there.

[digitalalba]

Not if you've actually tried to organise something yourself. I'll applaud your efforts. Have you?

You've already done it you gorm.

 

I think there is a St George beer festival at the Black Horse Aylestone. Anyone that really cares about it can go along and wave a flag or two. The rest of  us will just enjoy the ales.

Anyone that is bothered about it could always organise an event themselves like others have done. The Divali and Caribbean carnival (they are for all not just lefties) are organised privately (by righties lefties and middlies)  and they have to pay for the privilege. There are other events throughout the year which are for all regardless of race, colour or political standing.  Which goes  to show the wonderful diversity this city has. The Carnival has actually gone down in the popular stakes in recent years and was  in danger of being cancelled last year.

 

Leicester  Day

Riverside Festival

Music  in the Park

Xmas lights. Street and Town Hall 

 

Re the Saints I believe Spain has a Saint  day at least once a Month. They know how to party over there.

What is the point of a Christian celebrating Hinduism, a faith that they don't think is better than theirs, or A Japanese person celebrating the national identity of Carribeans?

 

Their may well be some private funding for divali etc, but most of it is by the tax payer.

 

What do the English, who don't follow gay pride, divali or carribeanism, get from their council as regards a celebration, nitto, nothing, nowt, zero.

 

A fair playing field anyone?

[Finnaldo]

You've already done it you gorm.

What is the point of a Christian celebrating Hinduism, a faith that they don't think is better than theirs, or A Japanese person celebrating the national identity of Carribeans?

Their may well be some private funding for divali etc, but most of it is by the tax payer.

What do the English, who don't follow gay pride, divali or carribeanism, get from their council as regards a celebration, nitto, nothing, nowt, zero.

A fair playing field anyone?

Again, the council probably would if there was the demand for it. What even would happen at these St. George's Day events? Brass bands? Morris Dancing?

Serious question, as personally there's nothing that I personally would consider 'fun' about a traditional public event. Rather have my own party/gathering of friends, have a beer or two and either a BBQ or an alternative depending on the weather.

You sound more bothered by what others get than St. George's Day itself. Gather some mates, crack back and enjoy it the way you want it. Life's a lot easier and stress free that way.

[Rincewind]

I listed the events that are on throughout the year that others can partake in. If yo look at the floats at the carnival you will see people from different countries taking part. 

[digitalalba]

Again, the council probably would if there was the demand for it. What even would happen at these St. George's Day events? Brass bands? Morris Dancing?

Serious question, as personally there's nothing that I personally would consider 'fun' about a traditional public event. Rather have my own party/gathering of friends, have a beer or two and either a BBQ or an alternative depending on the weather.

You sound more bothered by what others get than St. George's Day itself. Gather some mates, crack back and enjoy it the way you want it. Life's a lot easier and stress free that way.

Demand is there, but out of the thousands of English people that complain, only a tiny fraction ever complain directly to the council, because they believe that they will be ignored. Also, lefty councils have learnt the art of giving people the impression that others aren't interested, thus, an individual won't ask for it. The council have been told for decades now, but they won't listen. So what you have is dozens of small groups doing their own thing.

 

Market Harborough have Morris Dancers.

 

It bothers me that the council are anti-English, which is racist. If anyone thinks that's tosh, as is likely, you only have to consider this, if the council were patriotic, even in a small way, they shouldn't need people to ask for a celebration, they would want to encourage it.

[Jordan]

The patron saint of the United States is more specifically Mary as Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception, but this is only in Roman Catholic doctrine and has nothing to do with the federal government.

Our national holiday is, of course, Independence Day.

I think it's only fair that England and its people get to celebrate its national day, as just about every country in the world has one. If St George's Day is unpopular, would it be a poor suggestion to choose another day of historical significance to serve as a new national holiday? Historical military victories (for example, the Battle of Hastings) or "Constitution" days (signing of the Magna Carta) tend to be popular choices for other countries, but would there be any other moments that would be so significant in either English history/"Englishness" or the "foundation myth" of the country that would be better choices? What about July 30, commemorating Sir Alf Ramsey's conquest?

[Guest]

The patron saint of the United States is more specifically Mary as Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception, but this is only in Roman Catholic doctrine and has nothing to do with the federal government.

Our national holiday is, of course, Independence Day.

I think it's only fair that England and its people get to celebrate its national day, as just about every country in the world has one. If St George's Day is unpopular, would it be a poor suggestion to choose another day of historical significance to serve as a new national holiday? Historical military victories (for example, the Battle of Hastings) or "Constitution" days (signing of the Magna Carta) tend to be popular choices for other countries, but would there be any other moments that would be so significant in either English history/"Englishness" or the "foundation myth" of the country that would be better choices? What about July 30, commemorating Sir Alf Ramsey's conquest?

Something that would unite the diverse people of this country. So whatever day leicester win the league? just a thought...

[Rincewind]

http://www.visitleicester.info/things-to-see-and-do/festivals-celebrations/caribbean-carnival/

 

Leicester Caribbean Carnival is a hugely popular multicultural event, celebrating the diverse cultures in Leicester -

 

Events going on throughout the year available to all cultures. Information here.

 

http://www.visitleicester.info/welcome-to-leicester/the-visit-leicester-centre/

 

Discover over 2,000 years of history, including the Richard III archaeological dig, through the 'Story of Leicester' wall at the centre, highlighting our rich history and heritage.   

 

​The fact that multi-cultural events take place in Tory LD and Labour held seats dispels the myth that there is political bias. They are also organised by supporters of varying views both social and political and enjoyed by similar.

 

If you do not like the diversity and multi culture in Leicester then join a Morris Dancing group then you can celebrate St Georges Day with other like minded folk.

[leicsmac]

The mark of a truly free country is to be able to shrug at overt displays of nationalism and say, "Yeah, we're the best, but we don't need to go around shouting it out like everyone else does."

 

Free will, people. As other people on this thread have said, if you want to celebrate, go ahead and do so, no one is stopping you.

[Vacamion]

The mark of a truly free country is to be able to shrug at overt displays of nationalism and say, "Yeah, we're the best, but we don't need to go around shouting it out like everyone else does."

Free will, people. As other people on this thread have said, if you want to celebrate, go ahead and do so, no one is stopping you.

Exactly this.

Isn't the epitome of an Englishman someone who doesn't make a fuss, who gets on with it and keeps a stiff upper lip?

Banana republics like France need a stirring national anthem, flags all over the place, salutes to to the nation each morning and men who cry. No wonder they need a lie down in the afternoon.

Such countries also, interestingly, usually need a State imposed National Celebration Day.

(As an aside, one of the fascinating things about living in Scotland for 20 years has been to watch the increasing "tartanisation" of the culture, as some people strive ever more desperately to differentiate here from the rest of the UK and particularly the English. I feel that Scotland is becoming one of those banana republics.)

As an Englishman, when I see the people of any other nation ostentatiously banging on about their nationality, I just think "Awwww, bless".

[Buce]

The patron saint of the United States is more specifically Mary as Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception, but this is only in Roman Catholic doctrine and has nothing to do with the federal government.

Our national holiday is, of course, Independence Day.

I think it's only fair that England and its people get to celebrate its national day, as just about every country in the world has one. If St George's Day is unpopular, would it be a poor suggestion to choose another day of historical significance to serve as a new national holiday? Historical military victories (for example, the Battle of Hastings) or "Constitution" days (signing of the Magna Carta) tend to be popular choices for other countries, but would there be any other moments that would be so significant in either English history/"Englishness" or the "foundation myth" of the country that would be better choices? What about July 30, commemorating Sir Alf Ramsey's conquest?

The Battle of Hastings wasn't a military victory, it was arguably England's most significant defeat, as it signified the only time it was successfully invaded.

[Webbo]

The Battle of Hastings wasn't a military victory, it was arguably England's most significant defeat, as it signified the only time it was successfully invaded.

The last we were invaded. We'd been invaded by the Romans,Saxons and Vikings before that.

[Buce]

The last we were invaded. We'd been invaded by the Romans,Saxons and Vikings before that.

I don't think England was a political entity in those times, more a loose collection of minor kingdoms. It even derived its name from the 'Angles' (who accompanied the Saxons).

Anyway, my point stands: 'Hastings' was a defeat, and certainly not a candidate for national celebation.

[RobHawk]

Demand is there, but out of the thousands of English people that complain, only a tiny fraction ever complain directly to the council, because they believe that they will be ignored. Also, lefty councils have learnt the art of giving people the impression that others aren't interested, thus, an individual won't ask for it. The council have been told for decades now, but they won't listen. So what you have is dozens of small groups doing their own thing.

 

Market Harborough have Morris Dancers.

 

It bothers me that the council are anti-English, which is racist. If anyone thinks that's tosh, as is likely, you only have to consider this, if the council were patriotic, even in a small way, they shouldn't need people to ask for a celebration, they would want to encourage it.

Didn't somebody earlier in this thread say there was something advertised in the city?

To be completely honest you sound like a Spurs fan, there is no anti English lefty council, they actually organise very little. Just get off your Arse and organise something and stop moaning, just don't expect many people to turn up because most on here don't give a ****!

[Samilktray]

Culturally we are a very boring nation with very boring food. What's to celebrate? Just wait for Carnival and have exciting food, music and people dancing in funny outfits.

[Finnaldo]

Demand is there, but out of the thousands of English people that complain, only a tiny fraction ever complain directly to the council, because they believe that they will be ignored. Also, lefty councils have learnt the art of giving people the impression that others aren't interested, thus, an individual won't ask for it. The council have been told for decades now, but they won't listen. So what you have is dozens of small groups doing their own thing.

Market Harborough have Morris Dancers.

It bothers me that the council are anti-English, which is racist. If anyone thinks that's tosh, as is likely, you only have to consider this, if the council were patriotic, even in a small way, they shouldn't need people to ask for a celebration, they would want to encourage it.

I've mentioned it in conversation to most I come in contact with over the last few days and by far the most likely reaction is that of indifferent surprise or a shrug. There's a massive event in West Brom to go to as well. Again, I could see most people below 40 (if not 50) finding brass bands and Morris dancing some of the most boring things you could be subjected to.

So if you were to organise it for the Council, what would you put in there? Because I'd rather watch the big, colourful Caribbean Carnival floats or the big, colourful Divali procession, than Morris Dancing & brass bands.

[Fox92]

Posts on social media are so annoying. Like the BBC are rightly tweeting about Shakespeare's birth/death (after all he is probably the most famous Briton ever) and some of the comments are like "what about St George's Day" and "we aren't allowed to talk about St George's Day"... Who said any of that? Celebrate it all you like.

[Leicesterpool]

Well Happy St Georges Day to all, shame there wasn't a match on today. Cause the club could have done something special, like given away free mini England flags, asked people to come in st georges day fancy dress.

[The Doctor]

Demand is there, but out of the thousands of English people that complain, only a tiny fraction ever complain directly to the council, because they believe that they will be ignored. Also, lefty councils have learnt the art of giving people the impression that others aren't interested, thus, an individual won't ask for it. The council have been told for decades now, but they won't listen. So what you have is dozens of small groups doing their own thing.

 

Market Harborough have Morris Dancers.

 

It bothers me that the council are anti-English, which is racist. If anyone thinks that's tosh, as is likely, you only have to consider this, if the council were patriotic, even in a small way, they shouldn't need people to ask for a celebration, they would want to encourage it.

 

What a load of utter tosh. The council won't organise mass celebrations because there isn't that much interest in it - the nation as a whole is fairly apathetic towards St. Georges Day. Look at the petition to make it a public holiday a few years back: https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/1255- didn't make 5000 signatures. A petition calling for hedgehogs to get legal protection has got nearly 7 times that and is only halfway through.

 

When you've got to consider the council has a limited budget, what are they going to put on: Divali celebrations that increases footfall into the city or celebrations for some minor saint for which a far smaller group are interested? It's not about the council being lefties or anti-english, it's about them not really being too fussed about wasting time and money organising celebrations people aren't that bothered about. 

 

You want to celebrate St Georges day? Go for it, the council aren't stopping you, literally no-one gives a shit what you want to celebrate. But, don't be surprised when the majority of any celebrations today are directed towards remembrance of Shakespeare rather than some roman bloke.