Premier League Season 2016-17 Stuff it in here.

[lgfualol]

Ineptitude index https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/10/premier-league-teams-ineptitude-index-hull-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

We have  somehow managed to throw the ball to the opposition 297 times this season..

[the fox]

36 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Not as odd as praising a multi millionaire for giving up a tiny fraction of his wealth

What amount are you comfortable with. 1/5 of his money?, 1/4? Half HIS money?

 

[Guest Electric Yetis]

7 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

Ineptitude index https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/10/premier-league-teams-ineptitude-index-hull-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

We have  somehow managed to throw the ball to the opposition 297 times this season..

Not difficult when nearly every throw in the opposition half is launched into the box and more often than not on to a defender's head.

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Samilktray said:

He can literally do anything he wants with his own money. This is such a typically weird attitude some football fans have, because somebody pays him a silly amount of money he should donate some of it to charity. Very very odd jealous behaviour. 

I'm no socialist but I think that if you obtain a really huge amount of personal wealth then you have an opportunity and therefore a responsibility to help others.  If you have a fifty grand watch and gold taps then you have too much money and don't know what to do with it.  To ignore the great chance you have to make a difference is just wicked IMO.  

 

For all I now Zlatan probably does do a lot of good with his money so this is not aimed at him specifically but just the super rich in general.

[Samilktray]

1 minute ago, murphy said:

I'm no socialist but I think that if you obtain a really huge amount of personal wealth then you have an opportunity and therefore a responsibility to help others.  If you have a fifty grand watch and gold taps then you have too much money and don't know what to do with it.  To ignore the great chance you have to make a difference is just wicked IMO.  

 

For all I now Zlatan probably does do a lot of good with his money so this is not aimed at him specifically but just the super rich in general.

 

 

Absolutely bizarre 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

22 minutes ago, the fox said:

What amount are you comfortable with. 1/5 of his money?, 1/4? Half HIS money?

 

He can do whatever he wants with his money. I agree with you on that score. Anyone can do whatever they want: murder, rape, its your world

But when i multi millionaire gives up what is relatively a few quid and tries to paint it as something noble, it is right that he should be called a dick and one can rhetorically compare charitable behaviour to what a massive dick Zlatan Ibrahimovic is.

Still, must admit, the old bastard does bang them in

[Corky]

He does give money to charity, Google will tell you.

[murphy]

21 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

 

 

Absolutely bizarre 

Just me then.

 

Good counter though, well done.

[potter3]

It's just a sad truth that people can do what they want in this world. Murder, rape, not giving your earnings to charity...it's all the same.

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

Ineptitude index https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/10/premier-league-teams-ineptitude-index-hull-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

We have  somehow managed to throw the ball to the opposition 297 times this season..

Did it plenty last season - when you launch long throws in you'll lose it a fair few times. Like the long kicks - it's a percentage game, not all of them will come off, and raw numbers will have more, but it's a perfectly fine way of playing. If that article weren't obviously a joke I'd criticise it for falling into the outdated idea of only passing in triangles being good football.

[KFS]

Torn on tonight's match. I'd love to see Arsenal lose but for our chances at 8th that's obviously not a good outcome 

[RumbleFox]

1 hour ago, Samilktray said:

 

 

Absolutely bizarre 

Whilst you may disagree with the comment by Murphy and I can see that there is an argument that people can do whatever they want with their own money without judgment I do feel that anyone who laughingly thinks that it is "absolutely bizarre" to suggest that those with the very most should help those with the least probably isn't the kindest person in the world.  I try to be nice to everyone I meet and help where I can.  If I had money I would use that to help me help where I could.  You may disagree but "absolutely bizarre"?  Do you really believe that?

 

Rumble

 

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[st albans fox]

Also worth bearing in mind that about 50% of what these players earn goes to the exchequer to help pay for all the services we rely on. and of the half they retain, they are expected to donate to charity. I expect they do (of which the exchequer then has to give a percentage back to the player and to the charity in gift aid). I'm sure some don't realise that when these players salaries are quoted, almost half goes in tax.

[the fox]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

I'm no socialist but I think that if you obtain a really huge amount of personal wealth then you have an opportunity and therefore a responsibility to help others.  If you have a fifty grand watch and gold taps then you have too much money and don't know what to do with it.  To ignore the great chance you have to make a difference is just wicked IMO.  

 

For all I now Zlatan probably does do a lot of good with his money so this is not aimed at him specifically but just the super rich in general.

There is no such thing called "too much money", maybe bad management, maybe being wasteful.

Not my kind of thing, but ask anyone that owns an expensive watch or any item that you can wear for that matter, most of them will tell that it sucks the air out of the room, you know the American saying "feeling like a million bucks"

If I had that kind of money, I will be wearing the best I can get my hand on (without overpaying of course)

I think what people are arguing about if the rich need to give more because they have more, and for me, whatever they give is good.

 

[murphy]

4 minutes ago, the fox said:

There is no such thing called "too much money", maybe bad management, maybe being wasteful.

Not my kind of thing, but ask anyone that owns an expensive watch or any item that you can wear for that matter, most of them will tell that it sucks the air out of the room, you know the American saying "feeling like a million bucks"

If I had that kind of money, I will be wearing the best I can get my hand on (without overpaying of course)

I think what people are arguing about if the rich need to give more because they have more, and for me, whatever they give is good.

 

Fair enough.

 

I know someone who makes shop displays for the likes of Richard Mille and similar.  They sell the most vulgar gold and diamond encrusted mobile phone cases for about 250k.  If anyone wants one of those, then there's something wrong.  Imagine what you could do with that kind of money... and you think to yourself, nah... I want to chuck it away and look like a colossal cock instead.  

[the fox]

2 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

He can do whatever he wants with his money. I agree with you on that score. Anyone can do whatever they want: murder, rape, its your world

 

But when i multi millionaire gives up what is relatively a few quid and

tries to paint it as something noble.

1- I know you didn't just say that not giving your hard earned money to charity is the same as destroying human lifes, did you?

2- the money they give isn't just a "few quid", it's 10's of thousands and sometimes 100's. Just because they are rich doesn't mean that their money is worth less.

 

Of course I want rich people to give more money, but people need to stop acting like they owe it to the people in need.

[the fox]

5 minutes ago, murphy said:

Fair enough.

 

I know someone who makes shop displays for the likes of Richard Mille and similar.  They sell the most vulgar gold and diamond encrusted mobile phone cases for about 250k.  If anyone wants one of those, then there's something wrong.  Imagine what you could do with that kind of money... and you think to yourself, nah... I want to chuck it away 

1- that's just stupid, 250k for a phone case?, I can understand a 250k watch but this... This is just moronic.

 

2- a payment on a good house for a start.

 

 

[purpleronnie]

I guess it just depends on what sort of person you are.  I know If I had a million in the bank everything else I earned I would give away.  But that's not because I'm more generous than anyone else.  It's just what I would do, as the rich lifestyle holds no appeal too me...I'd be happy with my mortgage paid and enough to pay for clothes and records lol....I have told my mates I'd be a rubbish rich person.  I'm sure (or at least I hope) that players like Zlatan not only indulges in the finer things but are also very generous with their wealth.

[yorkie1999]

50 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Also worth bearing in mind that about 50% of what these players earn goes to the exchequer to help pay for all the services we rely on. and of the half they retain, they are expected to donate to charity. I expect they do (of which the exchequer then has to give a percentage back to the player and to the charity in gift aid). I'm sure some don't realise that when these players salaries are quoted, almost half goes in tax.

I know how they feel. 

[yorkie1999]

4 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

I guess it just depends on what sort of person you are.  I know If I had a million in the bank everything else I earned I would give away.  But that's not because I'm more generous than anyone else.  It's just what I would do, as the rich lifestyle holds no appeal too me...I'd be happy with my mortgage paid and enough to pay for clothes and records lol....I have told my mates I'd be a rubbish rich person.  I'm sure (or at least I hope) that players like Zlatan not only indulges in the finer things but are also very generous with their wealth.

It's alright saying that but I bet you a million quid you wouldn't 

[st albans fox]

38 minutes ago, the fox said:

1- that's just stupid, 250k for a phone case?, I can understand a 250k watch but this... This is just moronic.

 

2- a payment on a good house for a start.

 

 

strangely I never could - ten minutes is ten minutes on both a timex and a Rolex. When it's 10:30 on an accurist its 10:30 on a  Patek Philippe. I guess the argument is the expensive watch is a thing of beauty as well as telling you the time. 

[purpleronnie]

15 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

It's alright saying that but I bet you a million quid you wouldn't 

  I sure would.  I simply wouldn't want it when I could give it to others who really needed it.  But bear in mind I'd still be rich.

[the fox]

13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

strangely I never could - ten minutes is ten minutes on both a timex and a Rolex. When it's 10:30 on an accurist its 10:30 on a  Patek Philippe. I guess the argument is the expensive watch is a thing of beauty as well as telling you the time. 

Exactly, you can admire the craftsmanship of a clean looking watch that was 100% hand made and took a year to complete. Won't ever spend crazy money on a watch but can't lie, some of those watches are just amazing

 

 

 

[purpleronnie]

They all look awful to me, give me a simple classic watch like some of the Mondaine or Smiths.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

1 hour ago, the fox said:

1- I know you didn't just say that not giving your hard earned money to charity is the same as destroying human lifes, did you?

2- the money they give isn't just a "few quid", it's 10's of thousands and sometimes 100's. Just because they are rich doesn't mean that their money is worth less.

 

Of course I want rich people to give more money, but people need to stop acting like they owe it to the people in need.

1- ok, you're right. Got a bit trollly there

 

2- yeah, but i do remember some biblical story from childhood where a rich guy gave some money to charity, and a poor old lady gave one penny, but it was all she owned.

Guess which one Jesus gave most reps to

 

But this is not really why Zlatan's giving up of those wages annoys me. It annoys me because it makes no difference to him or Man U, its just a gesture to reinstate his self-image as a lion-man to whom injury is  not acceptable, a terminator god. Just a bit absurd. Ronaldo would never pull that shit