Nigel Pearson suspended by Derby

[Wymsey]

Bet Mrs Pearson is worried in both having a husband and son who can't help themselves and ruin their reputation.

[ajthefox]

1 hour ago, Col city fan said:

Pearson as England manager. Can't see him being the media darling the FA usually go for...

Itll be Howe at some point.

Mclaren, Capello, Woy, Big Sam. Hardly media darlings are they?

 

Agree with you that Pearson would never get it though. He's never even been close to being in the conversation, and there's absolutely zero chance now.

I wouldn't mind Howe to be honest, I don't like him but I think he would bring something different.

[EGBFitness]

5 hours ago, lgfualol said:

James Pearson for England

[EGBFitness]

6 hours ago, Benjani said:

Pearson is done in my opinion as a manager. Especially if Powell stays at Derby. Who would his assistant be next? He would have to take a hefty pay cut in his next job and I just can't see him bothering with the Stress. Multi millionaire he doesn't need it. Cov pay there managers 100k a year for example. Most championship managers earn probably £250k a year. Only the rich owners will pay big money and he isn't getting one of those clubs

I don't think he'll be done just yet, they'll always be a Leeds who will take him on even if it's on an unconfirmed short term  

[Donut]

Scottish jobs are a possibility?

[Sharpe's Fox]

Nige loves where he lives so needs a club a train from Sheffield. Unless he wants to up sticks down south it's a sticky one to get a decent gig.

[AKCJ]

14 minutes ago, Donut said:

Scottish jobs are a possibility?

Anything other than Celtic and Rangers is below him.

 

He's a fantastic manager. He'll get a very good gig at a very good level because there are plenty of chairmen who can see he needs time. There are plenty willing to give him it.

 

Unfortunately for him, he'll not get as well paid as he likes but he doesn't seem money motivated to me.

[ealingfox]

Nonsense to say that he's finished as a manager. There were probably people who said Clough was 'done' as a manager after Leeds.

[AKCJ]

 

59 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Mclaren, Capello, Woy, Big Sam. Hardly media darlings are they?

 

Agree with you that Pearson would never get it though. He's never even been close to being in the conversation, and there's absolutely zero chance now.

I wouldn't mind Howe to be honest, I don't like him but I think he would bring something different.

Lets be real, Pearson is a very good manager but the England job requires (or at least should require) the very best.

 

Nigel's qualities lie in recruitment and building team spirit. Neither of which applies to an international manager.

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, theessexfox said:

I still can't decide whether strangling McCarthur or telling the fan to **** off and die is more heroic tbh. What a man. 

The ostrich episode was the stuff of fairy tales.

 

Sad that the media took him to the cleaners over it because he was clearly spot on.

 

That bellend who tried to give Pearson a dressing down the next day was such an embarrassment. Loved how Nige shrugged his shoulders at him.

[Soar Fox]

4 hours ago, AKCJ said:

The ostrich episode was the stuff of fairy tales.

 

Sad that the media took him to the cleaners over it because he was clearly spot on.

 

That bellend who tried to give Pearson a dressing down the next day was such an embarrassment. Loved how Nige shrugged his shoulders at him.

To be honest I found most of things pretty funny. 

 

Telling a man to fvck off & die after the bloke had been abusing him for a good length of time. No matter what job or position you're in you would find it very hard not to retaliate to someone abusing you when you're doing your job. 

 

The straggling of Mcarthur looked harmless enough at the beginning but maybe went a little too far. Mcarthur laughed of the incident and admitted there was nothing in it. 

 

Ostrichgate was brilliant, players and staff at the club found it hilarious, the chef even put ostrich burgers on the menu the day after. He handled himself very well in the interview with Pat Murphy. 

 

The players at the club must have had Pearson's back whatever as they refused to do interviews with Ian Stringer as they didn't like the way he treated NP.

[Dan]

Please don't let him go to ****ing Coventry. Jesus Christ.

 

Just checked the odds. He isn't even on the list. Mark Venus is 1/8 for them so that's looking almost a banker.

 

Shrewsbury might be the answer. I find it a shame that he could end up in League One as for me he's comfortably better than that, but his reputation has taken a slapping.

[ozleicester]

On 10/8/2016 at 14:28, Countryfox said:

Had a dream last night that this thread was much longer than it actually is ...      Bloody weird.

I often have a similar dream.

 

Delusions of grandeur

[Dan]

On 08/10/2016 at 20:48, Wymeswold fox said:

Don’t know but I bet a few wouldn't rule him out as England boss, with Craig Shakespeare returning. May not be crazy as it sounds.

You're in dreamland  

[Guest Col city fan]

7 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

You're in dreamland  

Nige for England is one of the funniest posts I've read on here in many a year. 

[Vlad the Fox]

I can't see him dropping to or needing to drop into league one. There's plenty of chairman who remember what he did here, and started at hull, who will be willing to take the gamble. Morris' reputation may count in Pearson's favour as well. 

[Countryfox]

9 hours ago, ozleicester said:

I often have a similar dream.

 

Delusions of grandeur

 

No oz it was all to do with Gaelic calling people out left right and centre ..  (you been on the horse tablets Paddy ) ...   but it all disappeared in a puff of smoke overnight ....     so all we had to make do with after that was a handbags tussle between Donut and AKCJ over some stalking malarkey.   Not as exciting but hey-ho ...   

[MrSpaM]

16 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Bet Mrs Pearson is worried in both having a husband and son who can't help themselves and ruin their reputation.

I'd expect she'd be more than happy with the 6 million worth of payoff's they've had in the past two years tbh

[Vlad the Fox]

8 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

I'd expect she'd be more than happy with the 6 million worth of payoff's they've had in the past two years tbh

My Mrs would love it, as far as she's concerned it would mean I could be home everyday doing all the jobs she tells me I've been putting off for years. 

 

Do you think Nigel paints his own gate? 

[Guest Col city fan]

9 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

To be honest I found most of things pretty funny. 

 

Telling a man to fvck off & die after the bloke had been abusing him for a good length of time. No matter what job or position you're in you would find it very hard not to retaliate to someone abusing you when you're doing your job. 

 

The straggling of Mcarthur looked harmless enough at the beginning but maybe went a little too far. Mcarthur laughed of the incident and admitted there was nothing in it. 

 

Ostrichgate was brilliant, players and staff at the club found it hilarious, the chef even put ostrich burgers on the menu the day after. He handled himself very well in the interview with Pat Murphy. 

 

The players at the club must have had Pearson's back whatever as they refused to do interviews with Ian Stringer as they didn't like the way he treated NP.

I think this boils down to if he did these things on purpose? One of the arguments purported on here was that he acted in a frankly bizarre way 'to take the heat off the players' ie on purpose. That could be true.

How I tended to see it was a bloke who, under pressure, lost his temper and couldn't keep a calm head. If he did act in this way on purpose it was a. Risky (could have backfired) and b. Probably contributed to him losing his job. 

Now if he would have gone to Derby and kept his cool and looked to be turning them around, I'd have accepted the argument. But it looks like he's continued in a similar vein elsewhere.

Here's the rub.... and I said this when he got sacked from City...he did wonders for City. IF he hadn't have done the other stuff (made worse by James) he'd have probably never been sacked. I wonder if he has any regret?

[foxinsocks]

He is and was defensive and never took criticism well. This is coz he lacks self confidence.   It started to materialise in the form of prickliness with jounalists asking reasonable questions on behalf of paying fans who never had the chance to ask such. Then the bizarre incidents...  i would guess that there were more behind the scenes.  

Upon going for a new job he would need to show he had learnt lessons and becone a better manager as a result. ... i think the derby situation shows he has not learnt and continues to be hard to manage.  Which chairman would hire him if he cant show he has changed? 

Personnally i think his judgement of  hard working players was good. His ability to tactically switch things was poor.... but it's his defensiveness and the resulting problems that make him an unattractive hire

I don't know where he can go now 

[ealingfox]

Do people genuinely think there aren't still Chairmen in the Championship who would give their left bollock to get him in?

 

Because if you do you are mental.

 

He might have to lower his wage demands but this is his first real failure. Managerial careers don't go out the window because of one bad job. 

[Webbo]

4 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Do people genuinely think there aren't still Chairmen in the Championship who would give their left bollock to get him in?

 

 

In all honestly? Yes.

[Donut]

6 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Do people genuinely think there aren't still Chairmen in the Championship who would give their left bollock to get him in?

 

Because if you do you are mental.

 

He might have to lower his wage demands but this is his first real failure. Managerial careers don't go out the window because of one bad job. 

We will have to wait and see what jobs he is offered.

 

Honestly, and im fully aware im going to be shouted at by the usual suspects, his career really isnt any more impressive than someone like Mick McCarthy or Paul Lambert, Theyve achieved the same as him.

 

Pearson however has left two jobs under a cloud and basically looks difficult to work with. Cant really disregard this.

[ealingfox]

1 hour ago, Donut said:

We will have to wait and see what jobs he is offered.

 

Honestly, and im fully aware im going to be shouted at by the usual suspects, his career really isnt any more impressive than someone like Mick McCarthy or Paul Lambert, Theyve achieved the same as him.

 

Pearson however has left two jobs under a cloud and basically looks difficult to work with. Cant really disregard this.

 

We get it. You think he's a shit manager. You're bitter that he was an outstanding success with us. We get that too. Just let it go.

 

My point was that people are mental for thinking his managerial career is over and he'll never be offered a job again. Which they are. There's also no way he's the only manager who anyone's ever thought to have been difficult to work with. That's also a subjective and speculative notion which still doesn't stack up against his track record.

 

McCarthy and Lambert haven't struggled to find work after failures. What point are you trying to make in response to mine?