Guest Mee-9 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 How would you fix the current levels of performance this season? Genuinely interested in what people think, theres so much being said, wages, big money contracts, team selections, a lack of a visit from Monks.
funkyrobot Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Accept that Kingy is not the solution in a 2 man midfield at this level and pick a team/formation accordingly!
matty98 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 352 and press from the front, need to stop sitting back and letting teams have time on the ball
AyewJoking Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 the players have lost belief it and i dont think ranieri can motivate them or change the system. i'll happily admit to writing them off so soon when the desire and the results come back.
Tielemans63 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I love Ranners but he needs to get over his phobia of playing 3 men in midfield. Occasionally it is necessary. I might be on my own here but I really think Amartey could be effective in a 3. If you make him chief destroyer and ask him to play it simple then the other two can take up slightly more advanced positions.
Fox92 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Turn time back to the summer and perform better in the transfer window.
Max Wall Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 14 minutes ago, Mee-9 said: How would you fix the current levels of performance this season? Genuinely interested in what people think, theres so much being said, wages, big money contracts, team selections, a lack of a visit from Monks. 14 minutes ago, Mee-9 said: Mee-9 Posted 1 hour ago · Report post I hope we go down this season. You almost over reacted earlier.
Mark Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 12 minutes ago, funkyrobot said: Accept that Kingy is not the solution in a 2 man midfield at this level and pick a team/formation accordingly! Agreed but every manager since he made his debut has and continued to pick him in a two so what do we know
Guest Mee-9 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Just now, Max Wall said: You almost over reacted earlier. Has no one on this forum picked up on sarcasm or a joke? It really has gone to the pits.
Guest ttfn Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 11 minutes ago, funkyrobot said: Accept that Kingy is not the solution in a 2 man midfield at this level and pick a team/formation accordingly! It's not about King. He played in a 2 man midfield against Copenhagen (home), Palace and Spurs. The results in all of those games were favourable. At the end of the day we lost today for 2 reasons: 1) The tactics are wrong. Hitting long balls up to Slimani and Vardy is brain dead against most teams, let alone West Brom. 2) Drinkwater played an unbelievably bad back pass. Neither of these things are King's fault. I do think he is too negative in possession these days but he performs a useful function in that 2. It's not fair to compare him to Kante (an absolute freak of nature) as he's not a world class player. But he's a good player who has (very recently) done a good job for the team and deserves better than to be blamed every time we lose as not good enough to play in a 2.
Max Wall Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Just now, Mee-9 said: Has no one on this forum picked up on sarcasm or a joke? It really has gone to the pits. Jokes make me laugh, your post didn't when 1-2 down during a match.
Collibosher70 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Buy the entire Barcelona team...problem fixed
Matt Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I'm sorry but the bumper contracts have to be pointed at. I'm gonna contradict myself here I hold my hands up. Look i'm sure none of the players go out to play badly, of course they don't, but the fact some of them most notably Mahrez and Vardy (Who ok, only played 45 minutes today so can't be pointed at too much today) have been given the bumper contracts and now simple seem to be putting their feet up...well it's easy argument to be made isn't it?! They're not putting last season performance's in that's for sure, they've made themselves easy targets to be blamed, buck the ideas up and don't give us the ammo to point the finger at them. I heard people moaning about Slimani and Musa after the game, personally I didn't think Musa had a bad game (Not as bad as some), i'd have took Mahrez off for Gray, but that's besides the point, people slagging Slimani and Musa off...they've done more that Mahrez and Vardy so far this season haven't they.
weller54 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Nick a Delorean, go back to June 2016..offer Kante £250,000 pw... Sorted!
sm1 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 7 minutes ago, ttfn said: It's not about King. He played in a 2 man midfield against Copenhagen (home), Palace and Spurs. The results in all of those games were favourable. At the end of the day we lost today for 2 reasons: 1) The tactics are wrong. Hitting long balls up to Slimani and Vardy is brain dead against most teams, let alone West Brom. 2) Drinkwater played an unbelievably bad back pass. Neither of these things are King's fault. I do think he is too negative in possession these days but he performs a useful function in that 2. It's not fair to compare him to Kante (an absolute freak of nature) as he's not a world class player. But he's a good player who has (very recently) done a good job for the team and deserves better than to be blamed every time we lose as not good enough to play in a 2. Thank you. Getting really fed up of king getting singled out for undue criticism week after week. Ranieri has to accept we're a different squad to last season with kante gone and musa/slim in and therefore needs to look at different systems to maximise our talents, weather that be 343, 433 or any other variants. Also playing hoof ball 80% of the game needs to end.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Change formation and press teams and move the ball quicker. Surely it's time for 443 or hopefully 352? Can't keep going on with 442 because it's beating poor teams in the CL only
Wymsey Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Defence certainly needs more central support, despite Mahrez doing his bit recently.
fuchsntf Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 The 3 big problems..are will, lack of Bite.lack of intensity. With our lack of quality in our squad, the resolution has to come from the players within. Claudio has no chance if his players are only putting on the shirts, then forget why they are wearing them. WBA played like we should of been doing..They appleid easy pressure not more...They made the lose ball theirs.We are only half hearted...
TheMightySystem Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Put this is the WBA Post match thread. Need to go back to pressing like WBA did to us today. Liverpool should be our model imo, close down with speed so the opposition cant play then spring fowards with pace and skill. Ranieri needs to put emphasis on attack rather then defense now. So many times last season we would counter and have 3 or 4 men in the box ready to pouce on any deflection or cross, today we only had one or 2 until the last 10 minutes when we were chasing the game. Effort has dropped dramatically and its one of the reasons we are finding it much tougher.
funkyrobot Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 30 minutes ago, ttfn said: It's not about King. He played in a 2 man midfield against Copenhagen (home), Palace and Spurs. The results in all of those games were favourable. At the end of the day we lost today for 2 reasons: 1) The tactics are wrong. Hitting long balls up to Slimani and Vardy is brain dead against most teams, let alone West Brom. 2) Drinkwater played an unbelievably bad back pass. Neither of these things are King's fault. I do think he is too negative in possession these days but he performs a useful function in that 2. It's not fair to compare him to Kante (an absolute freak of nature) as he's not a world class player. But he's a good player who has (very recently) done a good job for the team and deserves better than to be blamed every time we lose as not good enough to play in a 2. But in games like today's you know that a workmanlike King isnt going to change or affect the game. It is entirely reasonable to bemoan the loss of kante and compare king when he's the current replacement and the same formation is being played. I like king as a secure squad player but he doesn't have enough to his game to be a starter in a 2 man midfield at this level, the level we were last year and where the owners/manager/fans want us to be. That's not to say he was solely at fault for today. He wasn't, but what he didn't do was make any significant contribution or exert any influence in the centre of midfield that might've changed the outcome.
Spiritwalker Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 19 minutes ago, peterborofox said: Change formation and press teams and move the ball quicker. Surely it's time for 443 or hopefully 352? Can't keep going on with 442 because it's beating poor teams in the CL only I don't think we'll get away with 443 but it's worth a try I suppose. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
steflcfc Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 I feel a poor pre season and some wrong areas being added to in the transfer window are starting to show. My my main problem I feel is the 1 thing we enjoyed last season.....a consistent 11 forging excellent partnerships all over the pitch and understanding each other's games. This season with extra games we are seeing in attack and midfield too many changes. and it's not helping the players! Drinky for example he is having King one week, Amartey the next and briefly Mendy hasn't featured through injury. There is no time for Drinky and said partner to play regularly to get to grips with each others game. 90 mins now and again isn't enough. who goes/who sits etc all comes in time. Same can be said for the strikers, they need time to forge a partnership, different players each week won't work. the CL is taking priority and within reason rightly so, but with all the changes were looking like a shadow of the side at times this Premer league season. its up to Ranieri to get the hunger back in this team as its faltering to deceive.
Charl91 Posted 6 November 2016 Posted 6 November 2016 Here are the problems, as I see it. 1. We need a new midfielder. King is a solid back up, but isn't a starter, and neither is Amartey. Obviously not much we can do about that now, and we didn't plan for Mendy to get injured, but we should've also signed another midfielder. Little late to solve this one. 2. Vardy and Slimani can't play together. They occupy the same spaces and get in each others way. On form, Slimani should be starting, and if we need to bring Vardy on, then we really need to take Slimani off. Neither Slimani or Vardy really contribute to our build up play, so we can't afford to carry both of them. 3. Players off form. Noticeably Vardy, and Mahrez at times (though I thought he was fine today), but also a few others such as Albrighton (and the defense too, though I'd say that's also down to no Kante). 4. Lack of confidence. Our run was buoyed by our momentum last season. Now that that's fizzled out, the players don't seem to have the same belief. Those amazing passing triangles we played last season many-a-time have gone. We're far too reliant on hoof-ball, and seem very wary to play it on the floor. 5. Teams know that if they sit back against us, then we're buggered. Last season we'd have struggled, but we'd generally have found a way to break them down, but with our confidence and belief gone, so to has the passing and the half-decent first touch.
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