Farrington fox Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 6 minutes ago, MattP said: His performance yesterday was horrific, he didn't do a single thing right. It was embarrassing how easily he got outmuscled every time and what he was doing for the goal I have no idea. Agree, he's too light weight, has no real presence.
Kaewbudda Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 9 minutes ago, Thracian said: Chilwell's still learning and doesn't need abandoning at this stage. I just wish people had seen that when they were showering the lad with hype after Liverpool's interest. So many times I've talked about people needing to work on their weaker foot. It's easy to do - no harder than fitting it into the rules of everyday training sessions but, as ever, I've seen no improvement to convince me the work is being done. Another factor concerning the goal was Chilwell's risk of conceding a penalty, having previously cost us goals in other ways, however unfortunately. Again, it emphasises my policy of defending higher and not inviting chaos into the penalty box either from open play or via conceding thoughtless free-kicks. Agree. He's young and still learning. He was really weak and hesitant at a key moment yesterday which led to the goal. It was infuriating to watch. But I'm not gonna start slagging him off like some fans on this forum. Don't start knocking him down before he's even had a chance to grow as a player. Yes, he's a little bit over-rated, but he's got decent pedigree and will learn from his mistakes to become a better player.
Thracian Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 On 08/12/2016 at 20:32, Stevosevic said: We used to rave about Joe Mattock too I didn't. Mattock ended up exactly where I imagined would be the case. Comparing Mattock to Chilwell is like comparing a Reliant Robin to a Jaguar. Mattock was aggressive enough as he demonstrated on and off the field. Chilwell's a thinking footballer and has the potential to be a damned good one given time, encouragement and the right team around him.
ZeGuy Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 He had a bad game, but that doesn't make him responsible for the defeat. The kid is doing well for his age and in a dredful team like this one. Let off the hook.
Mike Oxlong Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 His performances are either shit or champagne. Needs to start being more consistent.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 He was ultimately at fault for conceding the goal, but ironically Beny should have lumped it away a few seconds earlier and not got caught in possession 40 yards out and central.
Foxsky Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 Giving ball away regularly and should d have stopped Millwall goal
Lovejoy Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 But compared to Fuchs he should still play every game. He's only a kid, still learning the game and even my Millwall pal said he's clearly got bags of potential. Fuchs on the other hand can no longer run, lunges more than an Olympic fencer and gets skinned like he's not there. Needs to be given chance to develop, him and Gray could have something up that left.
notnow john Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 More worryingly than his part in their goal,his passing was atrocious.
dynamark Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 Cmon guys Fuchs is the better player at full back. People like Chilwell cos he is easy on the eye and gets forward. Defending for the goal was atrocious,late seeing and reacting.the millwall lad gave him a little shove to put him off balance and then he didn't put any pressure on at all three little pokes with the left(wrong) foot and the ball is in the net.Very lightweight with an awful lot to learn.Got to match up to your opponent physically and I hope he improves.
Guest Col city fan Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 Chilwell is another young City player who has been bigged-up by the forum potato heads, having seen him play once or twice. Much spaffing later, we can readily see that Chilwell is simply ok. He's just OK. He's not 'brilliant', 'world class ' or any other hyperbolic statement people may want to make. He's just OK.. Imo, the only really good young prospects we have are Ndidi and Gray. The rest are just..ok
Spicer Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 He didn't track the player at the end yesterday but we should of been out of sight by then. Chilwell has two good games followed by one nightmare. He is a very good young player and will only get better. The thing he really needs is to gain consistency.
stillwater Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 More worrying was Andy King standing off his player waving his arms around blaming everyone else.
Bazly Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 Rumoured that Arsenal could join Liverpool in seeking out Chilwell in the Summer raising his tag to around the £10mn mark. On yesterdays showing against Milwall a tenner would be good.
worthosoriginals Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 Yeh, the bigger boys will take him off our hands, cos they think he's crap. Then ft can find another young un to slate.
drofmor55 Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 9 hours ago, Thracian said: Chilwell's still learning and doesn't need abandoning at this stage. I just wish people had seen that when they were showering the lad with hype after Liverpool's interest. So many times I've talked about people needing to work on their weaker foot. It's easy to do - no harder than fitting it into the rules of everyday training sessions but, as ever, I've seen no improvement to convince me the work is being done. Another factor concerning the goal was Chilwell's risk of conceding a penalty, having previously cost us goals in other ways, however unfortunately. Again, it emphasises my policy of defending higher and not inviting chaos into the penalty box either from open play or via conceding thoughtless free-kicks. Agree re no evidence of any work being done in training...Gray & Chilwell too one footed , Drinkwater cant shoot , Okazaki cant stay on his feet....surely they can work on these things in training but there is never any sign of improvement
Ric Flair Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 7 hours ago, Col city fan said: Chilwell is another young City player who has been bigged-up by the forum potato heads, having seen him play once or twice. Much spaffing later, we can readily see that Chilwell is simply ok. He's just OK. He's not 'brilliant', 'world class ' or any other hyperbolic statement people may want to make. He's just OK.. Imo, the only really good young prospects we have are Ndidi and Gray. The rest are just..ok Kapustka is more than OK. Chilwell will get there with the right coaching and first team football. He's shown in games such as Weat Ham at home in the league that he's got all the attributes to be a great player for us.
volpeazzurro Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 I sometimes read these pages and think thank God it's not my son of 19-20yrs of age learning their trade at Leicester City if he stumbled on these pages! Gray , Chilwell, Armarty, Ndidi , Kaputska and Barnes are all kids, 3 of which a long way from home. Their performances are bound to be inconsistent yet certain 'experts' on here it seems can't wait to rip them apart? The club's gradual introduction of Chilwell, Gray and Kaputska in particular has surely been a good approach to gain them experience without demoralising them completely. Arguably Gray is ready for a starting birth now. Kaputska who has only just been introduced may need quite a bit longer from what I've seen. We have to trust the club who deal with them day in day out and manage not only there footballing ability but the personalities behind them. We should expect inconsistency at that age and be patient, remembering also that whatever money we think we have, we're not going to be able to attract eleven 26yrs old battle hardened world superstars to Leicester. If we could only stay up this year, these kids look extremely good for our future. It's one thing commenting that one of them may lack strength, gives the ball away too much or tries to do too much, but quite another to say they're crap, shite or other similar comments. As strength and skills need to be developed so does personality and confidence.
HybridFox Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 As I have mentioned before with Demarai Gray, Chilwell is also a raw talent. He is by no means the finished product but such is the state of our squad, that so much expectation is being placed on both. Likewise with N'Didi. With better players around him, he'd have had time to bed in and nurture his game. My fear is that he may be mismanaged into failure though
Kaewbudda Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said: I sometimes read these pages and think thank God it's not my son of 19-20yrs of age learning their trade at Leicester City if he stumbled on these pages! Gray , Chilwell, Armarty, Ndidi , Kaputska and Barnes are all kids, 3 of which a long way from home. Their performances are bound to be inconsistent yet certain 'experts' on here it seems can't wait to rip them apart? The club's gradual introduction of Chilwell, Gray and Kaputska in particular has surely been a good approach to gain them experience without demoralising them completely. Arguably Gray is ready for a starting birth now. Kaputska who has only just been introduced may need quite a bit longer from what I've seen. We have to trust the club who deal with them day in day out and manage not only there footballing ability but the personalities behind them. We should expect inconsistency at that age and be patient, remembering also that whatever money we think we have, we're not going to be able to attract eleven 26yrs old battle hardened world superstars to Leicester. If we could only stay up this year, these kids look extremely good for our future. It's one thing commenting that one of them may lack strength, gives the ball away too much or tries to do too much, but quite another to say they're crap, shite or other similar comments. As strength and skills need to be developed so does personality and confidence. Spot on. Remember Ronaldo when he was 20 and playing for United? Was he the finished product? The difference between him now and then is staggering. Luckily for him, he had a manager who believed in him and allowed him to mature without too much pressure on his young shoulders. It also helped that he was playing in a great team and with appreciative fans. Our youngsters are not so lucky. Because of the way that this season has played out they are under immense pressure. Every mistake is magnified. The team is struggling. Under the circumstances, I think they have shown a lot of bottle and character. These youngsters at our club have tremendous potential; we are very lucky to have them. With our support and encouragement they will get better and better. But if all they hear is how shit they are then how can we blame them when they start looking elsewhere for another club?
Tuna Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 On Saturday, it proved too much for Leicester left back Ben Chilwell who marshalled that flank in the first half. The 20-year-old, an England Under 21 international coveted by Arsenal, is supposedly one of the brightest young defenders in the country, but according to Millwall striker Steve Morison, he could not handle the onslaught of abuse. 'He was taking throw-ins and after a couple of bits of verbal he didn't want to take one,' Morison said. 'I'm not being funny, he said his fingers hurt him — come on, we're playing a game of football. 'He didn't want to take a throw-in after that. He asked the centre half to take the throw-ins in the first half. You either sink or swim when you come here. So far three Premier League teams have come here and they've sunk.'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4240360/Leicester-scared-throw-FA-Cup-loss.html#ixzz4ZArQGCFD
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 12 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said: His performances are either shit or champagne. Needs to start being more consistent. He won't get that just yet. Most young players have this inconsistency. The problem is, when it is not going right, that's when the senior players must step up and protect the young one in the pack. Unfortunately, our senior ones are consistent. Consistently shit. Which cant be easy for a young lad trying to make his way. He looks around and sees nothing but cowards around him. Sticking with Chillwell will pay dividends in the future. If he's having a shitter, we need to be his team mate. It's hard, I know. If a pass gets missed placed or something along those lines, the general groan does naturally come out. However, he's not had it easy with poor team mates and a manager who lacks ability. Considering he has had champagne moments shows us that he does have something. Hopefully.
lee7 Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 5 minutes ago, Tuna said: On Saturday, it proved too much for Leicester left back Ben Chilwell who marshalled that flank in the first half. The 20-year-old, an England Under 21 international coveted by Arsenal, is supposedly one of the brightest young defenders in the country, but according to Millwall striker Steve Morison, he could not handle the onslaught of abuse. 'He was taking throw-ins and after a couple of bits of verbal he didn't want to take one,' Morison said. 'I'm not being funny, he said his fingers hurt him — come on, we're playing a game of football. 'He didn't want to take a throw-in after that. He asked the centre half to take the throw-ins in the first half. You either sink or swim when you come here. So far three Premier League teams have come here and they've sunk.'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4240360/Leicester-scared-throw-FA-Cup-loss.html#ixzz4ZArQGCFD Jesus! I hope that's not true. If so that's pretty embarrassing on chilwells part. The problem at the moment is that he's not a great defender. On the ball he is usually calm and looks like he wants to keep possession of the ball. In the air he is strong for a little lad too but he gets beaten far too easy at times. Hopefully in the near future he can improve that aspect of his game.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 19 February 2017 Posted 19 February 2017 14 minutes ago, lee7 said: Jesus! I hope that's not true. If so that's pretty embarrassing on chilwells part. The problem at the moment is that he's not a great defender. On the ball he is usually calm and looks like he wants to keep possession of the ball. In the air he is strong for a little lad too but he gets beaten far too easy at times. Hopefully in the near future he can improve that aspect of his game. Should have stuck Wasalewski at LB.
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