filbertway Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 23:55, yorkie1999 said: And I bet you've heard that one or two times
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 1 hour ago, Leamington Fox said: The self-righteousness about Kanté is in overdrive. I would have loved nothing more than for him to have stayed with us. I was deeply disappointed when he left. I do not resent him for it, though. As far as I am aware, he did not mislead anyone. He had a buy-out clause in his contract, which Chelsea met. He is perfectly entitled to change jobs, as we all are, be it for better money or whatever. If he had slagged the club off in the media or broken one of our player's legs, it would be different. I hope players behave honourably (they often do not) and will praise those who stick with us, but I am not going to boo or slate the player without whom my club would not have won the PL. Don't mean to nit pick but they didn't, the buy out clause was only applicable to clubs playing Champions League football which obviously they are not.
lestajigs Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 On 7 January 2017 at 23:47, Lako42 said: Absolute bollocks, grow up. This bloke was a massive reason we won the English title, you don't deserve to have had him in the first place. So sad That's so gay
blurryface Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Did he leave us on a free? Stabbed in the back? Jeez this place. Kante will go on to win more medals then he knows what to do with through out his career, Im honoured the first of them was with us. I can see him playing and mastering in El Clasico's down the line. The league table is proof he made the right call. Sucks, but true. I won't be getting his face tattooed but certainly won't boo him.
Leamington Fox Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 40 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Don't mean to nit pick but they didn't, the buy out clause was only applicable to clubs playing Champions League football which obviously they are not. Point taken. Why didn't we get more dough for him then? Do we actually know what Chelsea paid or will pay?
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Just now, Leamington Fox said: Point taken. Why didn't we get more dough for him then? Do we actually know what Chelsea paid or will pay? It was roughly 8 Million more yes.
Leamington Fox Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 3 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: It was roughly 8 Million more yes. Absolute bargain.
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 9 minutes ago, Leamington Fox said: Absolute bargain. Total amount was about 25-30
Dickov22 Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Neither to be honest. Pretty apathetic towards him now
Babylon Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 59 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Don't mean to nit pick but they didn't, the buy out clause was only applicable to clubs playing Champions League football which obviously they are not. I don't remember that being said at all, just that we only had to accept the HIGHEST bid, rather than EVERY bid over the £22m. In fact it was thought at the time the Chinese bid forced them higher, as that was technically the only one we had to accept if they didn't beat it.
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 13 minutes ago, Babylon said: I don't remember that being said at all, just that we only had to accept the HIGHEST bid, rather than EVERY bid over the £22m. In fact it was thought at the time the Chinese bid forced them higher, as that was technically the only one we had to accept if they didn't beat it. I'm sure it was only applicable to CL teams and we accepted knowing it was more than we'd get if someone else came in......
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 15 minutes ago, Babylon said: I don't remember that being said at all, just that we only had to accept the HIGHEST bid, rather than EVERY bid over the £22m. In fact it was thought at the time the Chinese bid forced them higher, as that was technically the only one we had to accept if they didn't beat it. Ha no seems it was something to do with Shanghai, trolls, as if he was ever gonna go there.
filbertway Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Ha no seems it was something to do with Shanghai, trolls, as if he was ever gonna go there. Wasn't it pretty much Sven doing us a favour and hiking up the price?
foxinsocks Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Look - the clause was what it was; but for the life of me I don't understand why we would have to allow such a clause for a player who is so keen to come to lcfc. I can see that if it is competitive and there are a number of clubs chasing a player on the way up then we might have to put such a clause in. Yet our starting position should be a No. Would Kante have stayed in France if we have refused to include the clause? I med Rudkin recently and he was not impressive - as I have said before I hope susan wheelan (who is pretty savvy IMO) ensure we are not granting these clauses left right and centre - I wonder what pappy or Ndidi have in their contracts? When we boosted the wages of Riyad, Danny and vardy etc - did we remove such? Other wise will will continue to be in a weak position. Kante was given the contract we agreed - he honoured it. he played fantastic. Find a fan who says that with hindsight we should not have signed him... If I could do it all again and even if I known it was just for one year ...I would sign him. Clap him - he is part of our history
Spudulike Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Any pantomime booing will be cringeworthy. He was one of the Immortals and as such I will applaud him before and after the match. ...and you couldn't meet a nicer bloke, according to Kingy.
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 6 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Look - the clause was what it was; but for the life of me I don't understand why we would have to allow such a clause for a player who is so keen to come to lcfc. I can see that if it is competitive and there are a number of clubs chasing a player on the way up then we might have to put such a clause in. Yet our starting position should be a No. Would Kante have stayed in France if we have refused to include the clause? I med Rudkin recently and he was not impressive - as I have said before I hope susan wheelan (who is pretty savvy IMO) ensure we are not granting these clauses left right and centre - I wonder what pappy or Ndidi have in their contracts? When we boosted the wages of Riyad, Danny and vardy etc - did we remove such? Other wise will will continue to be in a weak position. Kante was given the contract we agreed - he honoured it. he played fantastic. Find a fan who says that with hindsight we should not have signed him... If I could do it all again and even if I known it was just for one year ...I would sign him. Clap him - he is part of our history It's a hindsight thing isn't it. Seems ridiculous to have a player like him on a 20+ million pound contract release clause once he's ripped up the PL for a season and heavily contributed to winning it. When he's a next to no one playing for a mid table Ligue 1 side it's a bit of a different matter, especially if it's something the player feels strongly about.
RonnieTodger Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 I was annoyed at the time, but he's been vindicated now hasn't he. He might be missing out on CL this year, but he'll be there for years to come with Chelsea. On the face of it, leaving the champions to join the team that came 10th sounds daft, but this was under extraordinary circumstances. Champions or not, Chelsea was always a more attractive long-term proposition. Vardy didnt go to Arsenal because the move wouldn't work for him. If he thought he'd fit into Arsenal's team as well as Kante has fit into Chelsea's, there's a great chance that he would've been off too. Despite alI of that, for some reason it still grates that he didn't give it another year with us. I won't cheer or boo him. I definitely won't cheer Hazard We made him a star and he made us champions. Let's leave it at that and focus on the XI that are still in Leicester colours on Saturday.
foxinsocks Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 51 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: It's a hindsight thing isn't it. Seems ridiculous to have a player like him on a 20+ million pound contract release clause once he's ripped up the PL for a season and heavily contributed to winning it. When he's a next to no one playing for a mid table Ligue 1 side it's a bit of a different matter, especially if it's something the player feels strongly about. agree - yet my point is "have we learn't this lesson?" - what did we put in to the terms for mendy, ndidi or what did we insist on for drinky, mahrez and vardy etc. If a lad did end up mid table Ligue 1 then having had no release trigger in his contract would not harm and it would mean we could still decide to sell him for the market rate. These release clauses should be avoided unless the competitive situation means we have to give in. Similarly, when giving a better deal we should erase or raise the trigger. That is the lesson we should take from this... listen up Jon Rudkin. But to be clear - Kante did nothing wrong - the contract was putinplace with our agreement.
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 1 minute ago, foxinsocks said: agree - yet my point is "have we learn't this lesson?" - what did we put in to the terms for mendy, ndidi or what did we insist on for drinky, mahrez and vardy etc. If a lad did end up mid table Ligue 1 then having had no release trigger in his contract would not harm and it would mean we could still decide to sell him for the market rate. These release clauses should be avoided unless the competitive situation means we have to give in. Similarly, when giving a better deal we should erase or raise the trigger. That is the lesson we should take from this... listen up Jon Rudkin. But to be clear - Kante did nothing wrong - the contract was putinplace with our agreement. Well if these thing are put in place they are normally directly proportionate to the transfer fee, so if Mendy demanded one Id imagine it would be more like 40 Million. Ndidi probably about 60. We aint giving a 16 mill signing a 22 million pound buy out clause. Vardy had one which Arsenal met, he no longer has one, he states this in his book, given we weren't dumb enough to agree to/The player didn't want one for Drinkwater or Mahrez in the first place I can't see them having one now
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Clap, id of loved another season of him but it looks like he's made the correct decision for his career long term, unless of course we win the Champions League!
smr Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 He helped us win the Premier League, without him I doubt we would have so he'll get my respect.
KrefelderFox666 Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 Anyone that doesn't clap him and appreciate what he did for us in that one season needs to take a look at themselves. I was disappointed to see him leave but cannot fault him. I will clap him, he never said anything bad about us. He didn't say I want to stay, I love this club and will never leave, only to then move away (like some players do let's face it). He always saw Leicester as a step into the direction he wanted to go and fair play to him for being honest. Didn't mean he put Leicester on the bottom of his priority list, he gave everything every game. Put yourself in a similar work position. You work for a small company who had a really good year, earning £25,000 a year. You outperformed and one of the biggest players in the market comes along and offers you a job for £60,000. Your current company say we can get to £40,000. 99% if not more would go to the big company who are a dominator in the market and offer more money. Why is football different?
Countryfox Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 5 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said: Anyone that doesn't clap him and appreciate what he did for us in that one season needs to take a look at themselves. I was disappointed to see him leave but cannot fault him. I will clap him, he never said anything bad about us. He didn't say I want to stay, I love this club and will never leave, only to then move away (like some players do let's face it). He always saw Leicester as a step into the direction he wanted to go and fair play to him for being honest. Didn't mean he put Leicester on the bottom of his priority list, he gave everything every game. Put yourself in a similar work position. You work for a small company who had a really good year, earning £25,000 a year. You outperformed and one of the biggest players in the market comes along and offers you a job for £60,000. Your current company say we can get to £40,000. 99% if not more would go to the big company who are a dominator in the market and offer more money. Why is football different? Bolox !!! Why the fook do I need to 'take a look at myself' cus I don't clap him. And what the fook has it got anything to do with a man earning £25,000 working for a small company. Get off your high horse. I've paid my money to watch my team and I'll clap boo or cheer whoever I like. And guess what ... And this is the difference between me and you .... If you clap him it will not bother me in the slightest and I will respect your opinion.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 9 January 2017 Posted 9 January 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 12:17, ttfn said: This falls into three traps that really define rubbish posts on here: 1) It's a rant masquerading as reason. You've not actually offered any rationale behind the transfer of one man from one club to another explaining a net 25 place swap in positions. It's simplistic in the extreme and doesn't even scratch the surface of the innumerable reasons for the two clubs' reversals of fortune this year. 2) It's hyperbolic -"most insulting transfer of all time"?! I was more insulted when we sanctioned GTF's transfer to being a full time pie. I dare say those Barcelona fans who watched Figo playing for Real Madrid may have something to say about that. 3) Worst of all, and this is what really grates, your last two paragraphs are saying that anybody who doesn't agree with your post is not a proper fan. You don't have a monopoly on being a proper fan, especially when your posts are as poorly constructed as this. Fancy having a pop at other fans' integrity as supporters because they have a different reaction to the overwhelmingly negative one you have for arguably the greatest player ever to wear our shirt. You are replying to someone who clearly won't be clapping Kante. Thats the basis of his post within which he's stated that his leaving is the reason we are languishing, and why Chelsea have improved. He realises what an exceptional player he was. You must be the the only one who thinks that's not the case, or that Chapter and Verse needs to be written about it. To boo or clap. That is the question. So you will be clapping him? Kitch won't, I won't, many others won't. Why? He is a two faced little bastard.
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