Freeman's Wharfer Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 23 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: They will not sack CR, there too loyal, and in the past have given CR a pass, even if we're relegated. The only person that can make this happen is CR I wouldn't count on that. They're business men at the end of the day and they came to Leicester for commercial interests which could only be met with a Premier League club. When they thought we were going down they nearly sacked Pearson, they just won't do it with Claudio until they really think we're going down if they don't act. Owning a Championship club is not what they want.
maddog Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 He has said he's prepared to make changes and drop Vardy, Mahrez, Drinkwater, Morgan after today's match which is a positive. Ita difficult for Ranieri, he's playing the players that won the premier league title, his first ever top flight title, hence his loyalty to them. They are grossly out of form, changes are needed and we'll stay up. Its a shame Claudio didn't mix it up 3 months ago. At least he realises now. The players are to blame for this primarily, secondly Claudio.
dylanlegend Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 1 minute ago, maddog said: He has said he's prepared to make changes and drop Vardy, Mahrez, Drinkwater, Morgan after today's match which is a positive. Ita difficult for Ranieri, he's playing the players that won the premier league title, his first ever top flight title, hence his loyalty to them. They are grossly out of form, changes are needed and we'll stay up. Its a shame Claudio didn't mix it up 3 months ago. At least he realises now. The players are to blame for this primarily, secondly Claudio. Too late pal... He's on 2 million a year and it's taken him 2 months to realise he needs to chance the personel!? FFS
Dr The Singh Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: I wouldn't count on that. They're business men at the end of the day and they came to Leicester for commercial interests which could only be met with a Premier League club. When they thought we were going down they nearly sacked Pearson, they just won't do it with Claudio until they really think we're going down if they don't act. Owning a Championship club is not what they want. If today's performance didn't tilt towards doom in there eyes then they are fools. I hope your right and they do it quick
Dr The Singh Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 3 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Too late pal... He's on 2 million a year and it's taken him 2 months to realise he needs to chance the personel!? FFS 2 months we've been shit since September
Koke Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 We were bottom with Pearson in late March and they didn't sack him. The difference is we've spent £80m since 2016.
AyewJoking Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 all this owners are business men they will sack him pretty naive business men to give him so long and not lay down enough investment in the summer and january window. someone prove me wrong when i say they will stick by him when we go down and have probably told ranieri this a long time ago, hence the same old formation same old players. this league winning side will be taken apart. typical leicester though, we'll be stuck with the dross. how is next season going to pan out? many poor players on mega money are we going to convince new players to sign on much less wages? we'll be held to ransom. if we do go up are the likes of morgan and co going to want hefty promotion bonuses? are we going to be hampered adding premiership quality when these tóssers are still on mega wages and at least a year older and slower than they are now?
AjcW Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 13 minutes ago, Koke said: We were bottom with Pearson in late March and they didn't sack him. The difference is we've spent £80m since 2016. There in lies the problem.... the man everyone is saying needs to be sacked has made it unequivocally clear that he has no dealings in transfers. If change was going to happen it needed to happen pre transfer window from the top down. It hasn't, he's now said he will drop players, we have to wait and see what that change will bring and hope it brings about a positive one.
AyewJoking Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 35 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: I wouldn't count on that. They're business men at the end of the day and they came to Leicester for commercial interests which could only be met with a Premier League club. When they thought we were going down they nearly sacked Pearson, they just won't do it with Claudio until they really think we're going down if they don't act. Owning a Championship club is not what they want. he kinda sacked him (although not entirely sure it was just because we were crap on the pitch) but was convinced otherwise and the greatest escape took place. probably influencing vichais decision to back his man if the league title wasnt enough.
rmahrez Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 I still love Claudio after last season, and couldn't bear to see us managed by anyone else. I know it's easy to view the last three months in isolation but I urge people to look at a season review from last season, some of his management was absolutely masterful last season both tactically and in the press. I firmly believe the blame lies with the players. Ranieri has continually put his faith in players like Huth and Fuchs only to be let down time and time again. With us still in the champions league and FA Cup, a good run of form could see us clear of the relegation zone and having a successful season in the competitions many hoped we would prioritize before the season began. Don't give up hope yet.
oxtonfox Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 4 minutes ago, rmahrez said: I still love Claudio after last season, and couldn't bear to see us managed by anyone else. I know it's easy to view the last three months in isolation but I urge people to look at a season review from last season, some of his management was absolutely masterful last season both tactically and in the press. I firmly believe the blame lies with the players. Ranieri has continually put his faith in players like Huth and Fuchs only to be let down time and time again. With us still in the champions league and FA Cup, a good run of form could see us clear of the relegation zone and having a successful season in the competitions many hoped we would prioritize before the season began. Don't give up hope yet. Call me in 2 weeks when we could be out of both cups (assuming a heavy stuffing in Seville) and in the bottom 3 while we are being beaten up at Millwall.
erlee Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/12/claudi-ranieri-leicester-city-too-many-chances he's cutting it pretty thin with all the useless cup matches to distract him seriously
ozvaldo Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 43 minutes ago, Koke said: We were bottom with Pearson in late March and they didn't sack him. The difference is we've spent £80m since 2016. And also we never really looked crap under Pearson. We were always in games, fighting until the end.
Thracian Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 It's desperately late to change now but change there needs to be if we're to be in any shape to start even next season properly. Whatever the details and reasons, there's something dreadfully wrong inside our club - something way beyond the everyday fall-outs you get in every professional football club where winning or the desire to win is a way of life. Usually the reasons for a developing crisis are obvious and some quite easy to rectify. But this goes deeper and is not at all easy to put right for Ranieri, for the owners or for anyone else coming in at this stage. First there's the disparity in wages which evolved after our title win. It caused resentment and, I suspect, has made some players more equal than others and more likely to be selected. Then there are the language and cultural differences among the players which have reputedly resulted in cliques forming. Next has been the need to integrate new players into a team which won the title - not an easy situation for the people being displaced having won the Premiership or for those trying to move into a team that competed 2015/2016 with as near a perfect record as we're ever likely to see. And don't forget some of those incomers might have had better contracts than some of the title winners and that would't likely go down well either. Especially when the team's pre-season was so carnival rather than functional, more so when we started the new season losing games and worse still when so many of the new signings failed to make an impression. It really has been a catalogue of failure and more so when the manager gets caught in the glaring headlight - or headlines- of trying to keep everyone happy and involved when champions are feeling threatened and unimpressed and the newcomers are thinking they're not getting sufficient chance to produce their best, for whatever reason. Much more than that the new signings didn't make much sense in that they weren't people who might improve recognised weaknesses in our team or at least our squad in terms of adaptability. We had no replacement right back let alone a wing-back that would give us options, no Premiership standard fast/mobile defenders, no creative/goalscoring midfielders, no Kante-like "cleaner" in midfield to replace the maestro we lost and no-one you'd describe as the sort of fast, mean, predatory goalscorer who'd trouble any defence. The best we had was AFCON Slim (okay to a point) giving us potentially four AFCON absentees (til Schlupp.lost his invite and moved on anyway) and another problem we could do without and has already cost us dearly with maybe more consequence to come. When you put all the above and more together it reads like a nightmare. All of our own making. And there'll be no instant fix that I can see because any repairs start with the team and that doesn't just need its engine tuning, it needs major repairs and modernisation. And that, while all the discarded or underutilised players on wages they'll never get anywhere else look on. I wouldn't envy any manager those problems. .
LJS Posted 12 February 2017 Posted 12 February 2017 17 minutes ago, ozvaldo said: And also we never really looked crap under Pearson. We were always in games, fighting until the end. People need to stop this. The scorelines were tight because we never attempted to score. We were bottom for months because we were the worst team in the league for months. We were really, really shit.
ousefox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 1 minute ago, LJS said: People need to stop this. The scorelines were tight because we never attempted to score. We were bottom for months because we were the worst team in the league for months. We were really, really shit. We weren't. Can we get rid of this myth before people start to believe it? You're rewriting history like a few others have - I'm guessing because of an irrational hatred of a great manager we had. We may have played shite in a few games, but in many we were putting a proper shift in and were either not getting the rub of the green or were on the end of some terrible refereeing decisions. Man City, Spurs and Arsenal away are just some examples of matching the top teams in the league that season and not getting the results. We certainly were not putting in the atrocious performances we have this season. Thrashings from Chelsea, Southampton, Utd. No goals against teams like Burnley, Bournemouth and Boro recently.
foxtillidrop Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 The reward structure was totally messed up over summer causing wage disparity across the club to the point where certain squad and/or staff members may have grown resentful towards the club. Just a theory to explain the dross.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 3 minutes ago, foxtillidrop said: The reward structure was totally messed up over summer causing wage disparity across the club to the point where certain squad and/or staff members may have grown resentful towards the club. Just a theory to explain the dross. You are right. I guess, Ulloa, Okazaki and Huth didn't really understand, why everybody but them, got big, new contracts. And I am also quite sure, that at some point last year many players were fed up with all that fuss about Vardy and Mahrez.
inckley fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 2 hours ago, LJS said: People need to stop this. The scorelines were tight because we never attempted to score. We were bottom for months because we were the worst team in the league for months. We were really, really shit. That's obviously untrue. Lots of managers, including Wenger, Ferguson and Mourinho, commented on us being a much better side than our league position suggested. In the end a run of form which put us second only to Chelsea in terms of results in the final quarter of the season, and which rolled on into the next season when we won the title, backs up what they were saying. I was pretty critical of us at the time but no, it wasn't as dire as what we're serving up at the moment, and I'm sure you're aware of that. The problem is that the circumstances are very different now. We have a different manager, and a good one, but one who hasn't got the sort of experience Pearson had of relegation struggles (Carlisle, Southampton, as number two at West Brom etc.). Some players have moved on - Cambiasso, Nugent, Schlupp etc., others are two years older and look two years older, and plus we've spent a hell of a lot of money on players and wages. Not to mention dealing with the impact of becoming football's greatest ever fairy tale, and the apparent breakdown in the player-manager relationship (which wasn't an issue two years ago). It goes without saying that what worked then won't necessarily work now.
Moksky Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 8 hours ago, Foxxed said: Where did you hear this from? One of the players
Moksky Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 6 hours ago, lgfualol said: Got any more juicy info? And do you mean just today or in the last week or so? Only that by reading between the lines , there are one or two who certainly don't respect him. I know The situation has been getting worse. Ranieri is angry that his faith and loyalty isn't being repaid on the pitch.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 11 hours ago, Moksky said: Word from inside the dressing room is that Ranieri hasn't been speaking to the players If that's true then his position really is untenable
lgfualol Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 1 hour ago, Moksky said: Only that by reading between the lines , there are one or two who certainly don't respect him. I know The situation has been getting worse. Ranieri is angry that his faith and loyalty isn't being repaid on the pitch. Fair enough. I would be angry too.
shen Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 12 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: If that's true then his position really is untenable A bit of silent treatment might be better than blowing the hairdryer. I await Ranieri's axe-swinging before our next three games.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 3 hours ago, Moksky said: Only that by reading between the lines , there are one or two who certainly don't respect him. I know The situation has been getting worse. Ranieri is angry that his faith and loyalty isn't being repaid on the pitch. And quite rightly Ranieri should be angry he has been let down by the players big time
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