teblin Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 If Pearson was given until the end of the season 2 years ago. Why shouldn't the man who won the league for us get the same?
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 2 minutes ago, teblin said: If Pearson was given until the end of the season 2 years ago. Why shouldn't the man who won the league for us get the same? Because Pearson's team were at least showing some heart and looked capable of scoring goals.
GaelicFox Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 38 minutes ago, roblcfc84 said: Personally I think many on this forum are overplaying their interpretation of a) a culture we know little about b) the personality and thinking of two people (maybe more) people we know little about. There is lots of serious evidence of what loyalty , respect and affection means to this family claudio walks or claudio stays there is no 3rd option
justfoxes Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 10 hours ago, NeilLCFC said: Without Pearson we'd most likely have gone the same way as QPR. BUT CAN EVERYONE FOOK OFF ABOUT PEARSON HE'S HISTORY AN OSTRICH A TIMEBOMB A FOOKING LIABILITY FFS CAN EVERYONE WHO MENTIONS THIS GUY PLEASE STOP LIVING IN THE PAST ? WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD NOT BACKWARDS !!
foxinsocks Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 I would keep cr... there is no alternative... and on a positive note i think there are ways to turn this round. Now the course is set. We all want cr to suceed. This will be more likely if we support cr and the squad. Of course we can bicker about decisions and performance... but let's stop adding pressure by calling for claudios head. The course is set... start paddling
Ric Flair Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 13 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: I would keep cr... there is no alternative... and on a positive note i think there are ways to turn this round. Now the course is set. We all want cr to suceed. This will be more likely if we support cr and the squad. Of course we can bicker about decisions and performance... but let's stop adding pressure by calling for claudios head. The course is set... start paddling There's no alternative? Why do people say that? How is there no alternative?
erlee Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 CLAUDIO RANIERI knows he remains in choppy waters despite the public vote of confidence from chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. But Leicester’s title-winning miracle worker has vowed to navigate his way through the “sharks” who are circling him. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2810472/claudio-ranieri-there-are-a-lot-of-sharks-out-there-but-i-am-on-a-windsurfer/ he prolly doesn;t even know who/where the "sharks" are until they bite a big chunk off him!
foxinsocks Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: There's no alternative? Why do people say that? How is there no alternative? What ... or who is it then?
Ric Flair Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 Just now, foxinsocks said: What ... or who is it then? Roberto Mancini, Bielsa, De Boer, Hiddink, David Wagner, Rafa Benitez No guarantees they'd come, no guarantees they would be a huge success but the term no alternatives is rubbish. There's also many more managers I've not listed either in or out of work. Were there no alternatives when we had to get rid of Pearson?
MC Prussian Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 5 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: What ... or who is it then? Hull went for a young and relatively unknown manager whose last stint was a job in Greece. In the past two matches, they gained four points and kept two successive clean sheets. So there are options.
shen Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Roberto Mancini, Bielsa, De Boer, Hiddink, David Wagner, Rafa Benitez No guarantees they'd come, no guarantees they would be a huge success but the term no alternatives is rubbish. There's also many more managers I've not listed either in or out of work. Were there no alternatives when we had to get rid of Pearson? Exactly. Did anyone have Ranieri in their mind before his name popped up in the newspapers?
ozleicester Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 Claudio will, and should be here until the end of the season.
Ric Flair Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 2 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Claudio will, and should be here until the end of the season. I really hope he can turn it around but I'd not make such bold statements. He's had his backing now let's see an improvement. If we don't win the next two matches and/or performances are as grave as they have been then what's the point in keeping him?
ozleicester Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I really hope he can turn it around but I'd not make such bold statements. He's had his backing now let's see an improvement. If we don't win the next two matches and/or performances are as grave as they have been then what's the point in keeping him? Agreed, but its not just him is it...the players are the final line. Unfortunately he is between a rock and a hard place... if he changes things and they dont step up... its his fault for tinkering. If he sticks with the "champions" and they dont step up, its his fault for doing nothing. This team is capable of not just surviving, but being midtable, these players are WON THE LEAGUE. Ranieri is capable of motivating and managing a side to win the league. Fingers crossed, things will improve, we will finish 13-16th and this will be remembered as another season of pure stress and entertainment that our City consistently provides
Guest Papasmurf Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 33 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Roberto Mancini, Bielsa, De Boer, Hiddink, David Wagner, Rafa Benitez No guarantees they'd come, no guarantees they would be a huge success but the term no alternatives is rubbish. There's also many more managers I've not listed either in or out of work. Were there no alternatives when we had to get rid of Pearson? You have rocks in your head if you think for one second any of those would come here.
weller54 Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 57 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: I would keep cr... there is no alternative... and on a positive note i think there are ways to turn this round. Now the course is set. We all want cr to suceed. This will be more likely if we support cr and the squad. Of course we can bicker about decisions and performance... but let's stop adding pressure by calling for claudios head. The course is set... start paddling ....upstream, without an oar!!
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 45 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: There's no alternative? Why do people say that? How is there no alternative? Exactly. Why do I read stuff like this on here? I don't get it. Of course there is an alternative. I'm not saying any alternative would be any better but of course there will be one. People literally write like Ranieri is the ONLY bloke who could be Leicester manager. Which of course is bollux
Babylon Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 9 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: For Christ's sake, these are supposed to be professional footballers, they have nothing else in their tiny minds to concentrate on all week, week after week . If remotely any good they should be able to adapt to a different strategy with a weeks notice for every different game if required. They are footballers not robots or computer simulations. It can take time to understand the subtleties of playing in a new position, if you think you can just chuck a random 11 together in any old formation and they are going to understand it perfectly and it's going to work perfectly straight off then this is a totally pointless argument, because I find that notion ridiculous. You think Fuchs is suddenly going to know the ins and outs of playing a left sided centre back, if he's played most of his career elsewhere? Or Mendy is going to understand his role wide left of a diamond when he's used to playing just sat in front of the defence for his old club are barely asked to contribute in an attacking sense. For it to work and work well each player needs to know exactly where they need to be at any moment in time, in attack and defence. You aren't suddenly going to have all the knowledge you need to know where not just you, but your team mates are going to be at any one moment. 9 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Let's think about it. If in a 4 week period as a supposed top team you have to face such obscurely different teams like Barcelona, Liverpool, West Bromwich and Burnley, would you set your team up in the same rigid way because your team is slavishly comfortable with it? Well we won the league slavishly sticking to 442 did we not? That's not working now though, what most people have asked for from the very start was a formation that countered the bigger teams and a formation that countered the lesser teams. There is no team out there that changes formation every single game, nobody wants that and there isn't a single professional out there who'd even suggest that as a tactic. But you can tweak for instance a 433 quite easily to become more defensive or more attacking, just by changing one or two players, rather than throwing out your whole system. God, it's come out that the first players heard of a change in formation was two hours before a game, I'm not sure how anyone can sit there and say that's conducive to getting the best out of a team.
shen Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 13 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Agreed, but its not just him is it...the players are the final line. Unfortunately he is between a rock and a hard place... if he changes things and they dont step up... its his fault for tinkering. If he sticks with the "champions" and they dont step up, its his fault for doing nothing. This team is capable of not just surviving, but being midtable, these players are WON THE LEAGUE. Ranieri is capable of motivating and managing a side to win the league. Fingers crossed, things will improve, we will finish 13-16th and this will be remembered as another season of pure stress and entertainment that our City consistently provides It's not just him no, but he's in charge and the team are not performing. The owners can sit idly by and hope Ranieri and the players sort it out or they can appoint someone who they think is more qualified given our situation. Right now, we are all hoping, against evidence, that relegation will be avoided. Make no mistake, this current slump is a far sterner test of character than the one two years ago where the players were motivated to prove they were good enough. Now they seem shackled by fear and an identity crisis. Champions of England doesn't sit well with our current predicament.
norwichfox Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 1 hour ago, erlee said: CLAUDIO RANIERI knows he remains in choppy waters despite the public vote of confidence from chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. But Leicester’s title-winning miracle worker has vowed to navigate his way through the “sharks” who are circling him. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2810472/claudio-ranieri-there-are-a-lot-of-sharks-out-there-but-i-am-on-a-windsurfer/ he prolly doesn;t even know who/where the "sharks" are until they bite a big chunk off him! It's so easy to miss the vultures circling overhead whilst looking at the sharks in the water......
Lesteban Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 FYI, Ranieri has been involved in a relegation battle before. Our fans phoning into radio shows, posters on this forum, and plenty of journos (who have no excuse, since it's their job to do this research) should look at what he did at Parma. Spoiler alert: he did a superb job, saved them after taking over in February. Such a good job in fact, that it earned him the job of Juventus manager the next season.
Babylon Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 1 hour ago, teblin said: If Pearson was given until the end of the season 2 years ago. Why shouldn't the man who won the league for us get the same? For numerous reasons. Pearson built the team and the whole backroom team taking it from league one to the premier league, everything about it was his from top to bottom. Claudio on the other hand will always have the spectre lurking of it being Pearson's team, Pearson's setup and the spirit he created. He didn't lose the dressing room from what we know, whilst there is a lot of smoke about Claudio doing so. Only those at the club will know, but if there is discontent from players and other staff alike, if that spirit is vanishing, then it will make them wonder about his long term team building qualities. But, most crucially whilst we had many downs that season we at least looked unlucky. I said it all season we felt close to being a bloody good team, we'd perform well in huge periods. We look a shadow of that team at the moment and Pearson didn't have the luxury of spending another £110m or whatever the hell it is we've spent. We were still in transition with lots of championship or below quality players filling out the squad. The expectation and the goalposts should be different to what they were. I said it a few days ago, they've been rewarded for showing faith and I think they will most probably do so again (unless lose a considerable number of games without getting any points). But at some point it won't work, sadly I don't see the ingredients there for it to this time, where as previously you could see something.
5waller5 Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 24 minutes ago, Babylon said: They are footballers not robots or computer simulations. It can take time to understand the subtleties of playing in a new position, if you think you can just chuck a random 11 together in any old formation and they are going to understand it perfectly and it's going to work perfectly straight off then this is a totally pointless argument, because I find that notion ridiculous. You think Fuchs is suddenly going to know the ins and outs of playing a left sided centre back, if he's played most of his career elsewhere? Or Mendy is going to understand his role wide left of a diamond when he's used to playing just sat in front of the defence for his old club are barely asked to contribute in an attacking sense. For it to work and work well each player needs to know exactly where they need to be at any moment in time, in attack and defence. You aren't suddenly going to have all the knowledge you need to know where not just you, but your team mates are going to be at any one moment. Well we won the league slavishly sticking to 442 did we not? That's not working now though, what most people have asked for from the very start was a formation that countered the bigger teams and a formation that countered the lesser teams. There is no team out there that changes formation every single game, nobody wants that and there isn't a single professional out there who'd even suggest that as a tactic. But you can tweak for instance a 433 quite easily to become more defensive or more attacking, just by changing one or two players, rather than throwing out your whole system. God, it's come out that the first players heard of a change in formation was two hours before a game, I'm not sure how anyone can sit there and say that's conducive to getting the best out of a team. What we don't know is the reason. Maybe a key player was injured for us, or maybe the opposition team sheet showed a change that CR thought he needed to counter. Was this late change at Copenhagen away??
cheshamfox17 Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 11 hours ago, char123 said: aah thats it. your only 24, youre a plastic fan Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk I've been going to games since 1998, so for 19 years, despite living in Chesham I still had season tickets quite a few seasons and when we couldn't afford to go Leicester every week we still went to at least 10 games a season, when I got a job and had my own money I had a season ticket and went to 20 games a season. The year we almost got relegated I went to the Sunderland away game which meant travelling about 700 miles. Now I live in Sweden so its a two and a half hour flight plus a one and a half hour drive to every game but I'll end up going to six or seven games this season but sure I am a plastic fan, alright mate
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