Bayfox Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 33 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: I fully understand both points of view, but for me the joy and glory of winning the FA Cup would be dulled and disappeared if in 10 years we were to be in the position of say an Ipswich having struggled to get out the division for years and then focusing purely on staying up in the 2nd tier. Not dissimilar to what happened to us in the 2000s. If you ask fans of Pompey and Wigan if they'd have rather stayed up than won the FA Cup I reckon most would have gone for survival The memories of last season will last a lifetime, as would seeing us lift the FA Cup at Wembley, I wanted to see us lift the Community Shield FFS, I want the memories that come with winning something, not the memory of oh you remember the season 2016/17, yeah the one after we won the title, didn't we scrape enough points together to finish 17th, yeah blinding season that, I remember we chucked away a shot at the FA Cup having made the Q/F of it. If it takes 10 years to come back up, so be it, Premier League Title and FA Cup back to back after 130 plus years of trying, i'd take it.
Babylon Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 33 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: I wonder if Wigan fans did a similar poll a few years ago? Really it's a no brainer Now if it was UCL or relegation... that would be tough They will remember the FA cup more than finishing mid table in the premier league for a few seasons or constantly fighting relegation.
Babylon Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 40 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: I fully understand both points of view, but for me the joy and glory of winning the FA Cup would be dulled and disappeared if in 10 years we were to be in the position of say an Ipswich having struggled to get out the division for years and then focusing purely on staying up in the 2nd tier. Not dissimilar to what happened to us in the 2000s. If you ask fans of Pompey and Wigan if they'd have rather stayed up than won the FA Cup I reckon most would have gone for survival Probably because they tumbled down the leagues, there is nothing to suggest that would happen. If you wanted to look beyond JUST the next season. I could sit here and say how would you feel if you stayed up this season with no FA cup and get relegated the year after? You still end up relegated and with no FA cup.
ozvaldo Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 51 minutes ago, Babylon said: Yeah, proper embarrassing winning the premier league and the FA Cup. How could we possibly cope with fans of clubs who have won feck all in the last 30 years laughing at us. It's a bit like when your Mrs gives you a blowy in Waitrose car park (winning the league) and a sneaky one in the club shop (FA Cup), but then for some reason she doesn't even look at you ever again (relegation). I don't want to be relegated to mediocrity. If I had to choose between one final epic blowy and then nothing but hard graft for the rest of my life, OR a series of on-going unpredictable performances where she'd have more money and ammunition to offer a better service, I'd choose the latter. Don't take away my blowjobs, Babylon. Please.
Voll Blau Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 5 minutes ago, ozvaldo said: It's a bit like when your Mrs gives you a blowy in Waitrose car park (winning the league) and a sneaky one in the club shop (FA Cup), but then for some reason she doesn't even look at you ever again (relegation). I don't want to be relegated to mediocrity. If I had to choose between one final epic blowy and then nothing but hard graft for the rest of my life, OR a series of on-going unpredictable performances where she'd have more money and ammunition to offer a better service, I'd choose the latter. Don't take away my blowjobs, Babylon. Please. Sorry to break it to you mate, but if you're paying your missus for blowies she's not your missus.
ozvaldo Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 1 hour ago, Voll Blau said: Who tells us it's embarrassing though? a) Banterfootylads who "support" clubs who win stuff every year which they watch from the comfort of their armchair while wanking off over the latest hilarious Paddy Power meme. b) Genuine supporters of clubs who, if pushed to it away from the comfort of their keyboards, would gladly take twice the amount of pain for even half the amount of success we've had/trophies we've won in the past 20 years. I'll happily take the 'shame' of being a pub quiz question forever in exchange for memories that last a lifetime ta. One big day at Wembley vs the possibility of going down with players on massive contracts and having to start the entire re-structure process up again does not sit well with me. We've done the unthinkable, and I'd like us to build on that slowly (by staying up). I'd prefer not to have one more big amazing day and then misery and shit for the next 10 years. Enjoy the pub quiz, mate.
Hollism Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Two people saying it would be hard to choose between winning the CL and staying up!? What the fvcking hell is wrong with you 12 months ago we were all spaffing at the prospect at playing in it, but now you'd rather "achieve" being the 17th best team in England, than the champions of Europe!?
Fox92 Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 2 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Who tells us it's embarrassing though? a) Banterfootylads who "support" clubs who win stuff every year which they watch from the comfort of their armchair while wanking off over the latest hilarious Paddy Power meme. b) Genuine supporters of clubs who, if pushed to it away from the comfort of their keyboards, would gladly take twice the amount of pain for even half the amount of success we've had/trophies we've won in the past 20 years. I'll happily take the 'shame' of being a pub quiz question forever in exchange for memories that last a lifetime ta. Voll I agree with you throughout this thread and you know I'm like yourself in terms of wanting us to win the FA Cup, but relegated as Champions - regardless of success in the FA Cup - would be embarrassing. The defence of our title has already been embarrassing enough.
Nick Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 12 hours ago, chicagofox said: Why do we always have to choose one or the other? I know but, "if you had to sleep with either your mum or your gran which would you choose and why?"
STUHILL Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Tough choice. An FA Cup final and win, would be so good and I think with our young talented players, who would likely stay for the Championship season, plus a few additions, we would be strong enough to get us back up again. No guarantee I know, but I think we would be in pretty good shape. The problem with relegation, it taints everything else we do. You look at us now, the Champions, in the knock-out stages of the Champions League and everyone's favourite second team, but still none of us are that particularly happy, and we aren't even in the relegation zone yet! Like someone else posted, there ALWAYS seems to be an excuse as to why we have priorities over the FA CUP, whether a promotion fight or a relegation battle. I can't remember the last time, we actually really went to try and win the FA Cup and took it seriously. Again, if last season hadn't happened and we were still just the same old Leicester Yo-Yo team of old, then I would probably take the FA CUP and a relegation. I think because of the enormity of what we achieved last season, and then to be relegated the very next season, it would certainly taint the fairytale for me and for many others. Avoid Relegation, try win the Cup next season. Bigger question though - Stay up OR Win the Champions League...?
AKCJ Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 F.A. Cup and relegated every single day of the week.
Kitchandro Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 No I couldn't enjoy winning the FA Cup nearly as much knowing we'd been relegated as well. Relegation spells the possibility of years of turmoil, the club struggling on and off the pitch, low crowds, terribly boring fixtures etc, not to mention the embarrassment of going down. Don't tell me you wouldn't be bothered about all that, because you would. The threat of relegation this year isn't keeping people off Ranieri and the team's back even though we won the bloody league last year. I want us winning the FA Cup to be a momentous memory, and not tarnished with 'but they were relegated the same season'. And it's pointless bringing up Wigan, who were never expected to be in the premier league at all, let alone stay up for so many years. I want to be proud of us winning the cup and I won't be proud of this lot if we go down. So yeh, let's put everything into winning the cup, but going down is not an option.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Getting relagated would just mean we are back to square one. Our best young players will leave etc.
Guest MattP Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Not even a question, win the FA Cup. Football is about winning trophies, that's the whole idea of sport, anyone wanting to sacrifice actually winning things just to get a stream on the internet or see us "get more money" (you don't get it btw, if anything it ill cost you more as prices to watch PL football rise) is warped in my opinion and shows how different football fans have become over time, they've fallen for the Sky Sports propaganda that being in the EPL is the be all and end all of the game, it isn't. We've won the Premier League now, that will be as good as it gets, it's extremely unlikely it will ever happen again not only to us but even a club of a similar size to us in our lifetimes, the only way it can is if the league even becomes financially unsustainable and the power weidling clubs lose control of finances to such an extent the country can no longer attract top players. So our mission is actually accomplished with regards to this, one other lifetime mission isn't, the FA Cup, something we have been trying to win for over 100 years and now stand just four games away from doing so with one of the most talented squads we'll ever have. When you speak your grandchildren in 40 years time, you'll want to tell them about the day you went to Wembley and watched Leicester City win the FA Cup, not the five years we spent finishing 15-16th to make sure the billionaire owners got even richer. The thought of us turning into a West Brom or Stoke whose main priority every season is just to survive whilst getting dumped out of the cup playing the reserves terrifies me.
maddog Posted 10 February 2017 Author Posted 10 February 2017 Surprised by the results of this, I'd have thought relegated but win the cup would have been a comfortable winner. Interesting indeed.
Guest Danny Clender Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 FA Cup + Relegation = No Champions League Cup + Relegation = Yes
Number 6 Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 2059... "Hey remember when Leicester stayed up in 2017?" "Nope" Cup win would always be remembered. F the money. I'm looking forward to the open top bus parade should we stay up. Edit: Appreciate that the cup has been devalued recently but that's the fault of the money, not a reason to chase it even more.
Joefox Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 6 hours ago, Swan Lesta said: I know but, "if you had to sleep with either your mum or your gran which would you choose and why?" ? Why can't we win the cup and stay up?
smr Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Staying up and winning the FA Cup, and Champions League
Danizen Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 10 hours ago, Babylon said: Win the cup without a doubt. I've seen us win: League One The Championship The Premier League The League Cup (x2) The only one missing is the FA Cup and I'm absolutely desperate for us to win that. There are fans of teams that go their whole lives without ever seeing their team with anything. To see your own team win everything there is to win in this country over the space of what 20 years (I'm cool with not having League Two), is something absolutely incredible. The fact that finishing 4th or staying up or seen as more important than actually winning something is a sad indictment of where football is at the moment. I think it's more an indictment of where we are as a club at the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe someone ran the exact same poll two seasons ago and the majority of people voted FA Cup and relegation. If we were relegated in 2015 with a relatively small wage bill and a strong squad who would've felt very hard done by, I would have put money on us bouncing back immediately. This season, our wage bill is monstrous thanks to all these Champions League contracts we've handed out and there's clearly divisions in the squad and players blaming each other for our current situation. We were in the Championship a very long time and saw a lot of big clubs with overpaid, underperforming squads get relegated and struggle. I think we'd go the same way. We could very easily go the way of Leeds/Portsmouth if we get relegated this season and I think that's what's swaying people to vote Stay Up not being consumed by the idea of being a Premier League club.
Corky Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 9 hours ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Four words... Portsmouth and Wigan Athletic (**** that) Portsmouth won the FA Cup and finished 8th in the same season so it's not the same thing.
Clever Fox Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Firstly, We've no chance of winning the Champions league. As for the FA Cup or relegation. For Fans it's all about winning I've seen us lose 3 FA Cups so a win would be nice. With the money we have we can always be promoted again for another good day out.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Firstly, We've no chance of winning the Champions league. As for the FA Cup or relegation. For Fans it's all about winning I've seen us lose 3 FA Cups so a win would be nice. With the money we have we can always be promoted again for another good day out. It's not as simple as just getting promoted again. We will lose all our best players and left with the dead wood. We'd be lucky to get play offs.
oxtonfox Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 Why not both ffs. Seriously we are long odds to win the cup and pretty short odds to stay up so I would pick the easy one and stay up and have a go at the Cup next year when I hope we are not in this predicament.
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