Drygon Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Ok, I think we made our by far absolute best performance by an country mile. Personally, I don't really understand why the players didn't showed such performance & attitude in previous games this season.
Collymore Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 First time I've seen more content in a thread title.
Jimothy Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 No they didn't. The tactics tonight played to their strengths, something Ranieri was moving away from.
Phube Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Just now, Collymore said: First time I've seen more content in a thread title.
The Guvnor Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 It's not as black and white as that who knows what has been going on behind the scenes but that performance speaks volumes.
Tielemans63 Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Combination of player attitude not being great combined with some serious flaws in the tactical approach employed by Claudio. I think if CR had stuck to what we're good at he'd still be in situ.
foxfanazer Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Depends which rumours you believe. I think if you don't know it's unfair to judge really. Were they deliberately underperforming or did Ranieri not want that intensity? Either way it's guess work
dylanlegend Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Apparently the players wanted to press high but Ranieri wanted them to sit back. I think tonight proves this was more than just a 'rumour'
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 No Ranieri setting up the team to wait to concede lost him his job.
irishmenfox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Yes for me. You don't go from being that bad to being this good and like Gary Neville said it's not as if they have had much time on the training ground
erlee Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 19 hours ago, Paddy. said: Combination of player attitude not being great combined with some serious flaws in the tactical approach employed by Claudio. I think if CR had stuck to what we're good at he'd still be in situ. but aren't the players tonight largely the same..??
Tuna Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 He stopped us pressing. We start pressing, we play better. Simples.
erlee Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 19 hours ago, dylanlegend said: Apparently the players wanted to press high but Ranieri wanted them to sit back. I think tonight proves this was more than just a 'rumour' the players do not appeared to have pressed HIGH tonight.. was i at another game?
lifted*fox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Just now, Facecloth said: No they didn't. The tactics tonight played to their strengths, something Ranieri was moving away from. I think the same as this above - but I also put this in another thread: These fvcking cvnt pundits getting all shitty about the players 'downing tools to get Ranieri sacked'... Well, can you really blame the players for wanting him out if they felt he was taking everything backwards? If you were used to playing like we're playing tonight and winning games - winning the ****ing title the previous year - and your coach was then telling you to play a completely different way, which wasn't working whilst also destroying the forward-thinking systems in place at the club, surely you'd want to put an end to it as well - irrespective of the title win. It's no surprise that there's word that the players want Pearson bought back - they obviously massively respect his systems, his backroom staff and his approach to the game. They obviously see that 'style' and the relationships he built at the club as being a key factor in the title win last season.
Tielemans63 Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 1 minute ago, erlee said: but aren't the players tonight largely the same..?? That's kind of the point I was making mate He changed a successful system that worked with these players to one that patently did not work.
ZeGuy Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Sick of this shit. Can understand it from the bandwagonners jumping on the hate train as fast as they jumped on the hype one last season, but not from anyone who regularly watched us. The players wanted the high pressing, Ranieri not. They lost faith in him and were demoralized. Tonight back to the old tactics. They have been vilified this week and showed some pride. Let's see how it goes. Get behind the team! FFS.
shen Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 I find it utterly ridiculous to suggest that the players did not try under Ranieri. If anything, this does more to prove that Ranieri's tactics were completely misguided. Take their leashes off, give them a rough framework and guidelines, instill a clear game plan and these players will fight and run for 90 minutes and do effective pressing. I am thrilled with tonight's performance but more than anything I feel relief. These players still have it in them.
J.Lisemore Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 There was nothing wrong with player application before, it was clearly tactics and what was asked. We went back to basics tonight and got our rewards, sad that Ranieri found the need to veer away from this.
lifted*fox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Jamie's post-match interview: "We've worked hard at what we were asked to do but it didn't come off." - That's a dig at Ranieri's tactics. Danny and Vardy both saying that Shakey said to go back to basics and for Jamie to press higher up the pitch. It's clear as day. Ranieri had these guys playing negative football and they were sick of it. If they pushed him out it was because he was stifling their football. I am absolutely 100% fine with this.
MC Prussian Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 No, or at least not to the extent that I'd follow with the "players had their knives out" argument. Based on tonight's performance, you'd have to question Ranieri's tinkering with our philosophy, the attacking, fearless mode that made us so successful and enamored the footballing world in 15/16. It felt as if something was holding them back, and my guess is Ranieri wanted to implement something of his own which appears to run against "our" brand/style of play.
EGBFitness Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 The new desperate question to the Ranieri fans. Why the **** can people never understand the manager picks the players, tactics, style of play etc Tonight we played to our strengths! Something we haven't done all season!
Raw Dykes Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 No. I think the players were probably finding it very difficult to get motivated to play for someone who was making fundamental tactical errors that anyone could see were wrong. Ranieri was trying to get us to sit back, when we've got a great pressing side. Why on Earth was he trying to change something that worked so well for us before? I'll never understand it. Shakey let us off the leash, and we were absolutely superb. Give him the job.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 No. Shakey played to their strengths so they did well. It's not a conspiracy. It's simple football.
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