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Posted
24 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

If we had him in 2014/15, instead of that  cambiasso bloke, we would not have been  bottom of the prem, We might have even stayed up.

 

 

 

 

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Posted
Just now, Thracian said:

 

 

Moyes was never going to save Sunderland but if I were the club's owner I'd never see him sacked in the midst of the disgraceful witchhunt being fostered at the moment.

 

The man was being light-hearted. In today's society where little things are blown out of all proportion while real responsibility is avoided due to a lack of will to do what's permanently effective, he made a mistake which he's quickly been obliged to apologise for.

 

And that while real problem people have been tolerated for years before (sometimes) being brought to justice and, even then, all are living and breathing either among us still, or waiting for their eventual release from a prison where we've been footing the bill to keep them.

 

We really are such two-faced hypocrites. A decent man gets hammered in public while real bulllies get away with all sorts and are often back in society to do the same in next to no time.        

 

       

Or you sack him for being rubbish at his job...

 

Or is that also indicitave of decaying society?

Posted
Just now, Max Power said:

Or you sack him for being rubbish at his job...

 

Or is that also indicitave of decaying society?

I wouldn't actually have employed him to do the job at Sunderland and would certainly have regretted it before now.

 

But the Sunderland situation's beyond saving this season in my view, and if I were the Sunderland owners  I'd not want to cave in some nasty. opportunist, witchhunt against one of my employees - whether it was a manager or a groundsman.        

Guest Col city fan
Posted
4 minutes ago, Thracian said:

I wouldn't actually have employed him to do the job at Sunderland and would certainly have regretted it before now.

 

But the Sunderland situation's beyond saving this season in my view, and if I were the Sunderland owners  I'd not want to cave in some nasty. opportunist, witchhunt against one of my employees - whether it was a manager or a groundsman.        

Personally, I'd be looking to replace Moyes anyway. Where Allardyce succeeded last season with Sunderland, Moyes has hugely failed. It's been sad for him, however, that he's been missing the influential Cattermole for nearly the whole season.

Moyes is a spent force, I think. Sunderland need to go down, get in a fresh, motivated younger manager..and rebuild.

Posted

I've always had a soft spot for Sunderland. I used to go and see them quite often when I lived in Newcastle. They are definitely some of the friendliest fans I have come across away from home. If Leicester never existed I'd probably have been a fan given my family connections too. That forum is just full of a bunch of jealous weirdos.

Posted
26 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Personally, I'd be looking to replace Moyes anyway. Where Allardyce succeeded last season with Sunderland, Moyes has hugely failed. It's been sad for him, however, that he's been missing the influential Cattermole for nearly the whole season.

Moyes is a spent force, I think. Sunderland need to go down, get in a fresh, motivated younger manager..and rebuild.

Where football is concerned I agree entirely. I'd just hate the idea of upstart activists being able to bully an employee of mine so unjustly and get away with it.

 

I'd probably tailor another role for him and get the genuinely gifted manager the club needs. But, as stated, I wouldn't have appointed Moyes in the first place. Not a chance.      

Posted

This entire overreaction about what Moyes said is pathetic . Most annoying thing for me is that non of these pundits or journalists have the audacity to say how pathetic the overreaction is, just so they can protect their own image.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, foxes21 said:

This entire overreaction about what Moyes said is pathetic . Most annoying thing for me is that non of these pundits or journalists have the audacity to say how pathetic the overreaction is, just so they can protect their own image.

 

 

Absolutely. Though the BBC reporter concerned has accepted an apology and suggested the issue is closed, which does her credit if that's the case.  .  

Posted
9 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

This entire overreaction about what Moyes said is pathetic . Most annoying thing for me is that non of these pundits or journalists have the audacity to say how pathetic the overreaction is, just so they can protect their own image.

 

 

tbh you cant say anything nowadays without someone taking offence 

Posted
27 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

tbh you cant say anything nowadays without someone taking offence 

Everyone has to tread on eggshells these days. These people who blow minor slights out of all proportion should compare with the real issues that women have in India, Middle East, etc.

Posted

Sunderland fans on the whole are great. They were brilliant both for the Great Escape game and last years Premier League victory parade fixture up there. 

 

It's just they have some absolute tossers that want to associate themselves with that great support and tradition. As someone says above how when your team has, by and large, been turd for the last 5 years you can give it the big un to the league champions is a form of narcissism way above most peoples comprehension.  

 

They also have a fixation with selling out the away section, even when they take the smaller allocation, so if there are only 800 of them tonight although it's understandable in the circumstances that will be a dent to their pride / narcissism. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

tbh you cant say anything nowadays without someone taking offence 

And it's what we're rapidly being manipulated into accepting. There are now so many differing sensibilities in the same society, Big brother is watching with ever more eyes and in ever more places. Another few years and England should be the quietest occupied place on Earth!  :)

Posted
47 minutes ago, Thracian said:

Absolutely. Though the BBC reporter concerned has accepted an apology and suggested the issue is closed, which does her credit if that's the case.  .  

 

Well she wasn't even offended at the time, it's just morons getting offended on her behalf.

 

Over nothing.

 

I'm the first to complain about sexism / misogyny but this was just dumb.

 

Some "women in football" advocate now implying he should "consider his position" for fvck sakes.

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Thracian said:

And it's what we're rapidly being manipulated into accepting. There are now so many differing sensibilities in the same society, Big brother is watching with ever more eyes and in ever more places. Another few years and England should be the quietest occupied place on Earth!  :)

 

This, however, as retarded as normal.

 

The ridiculous hyperbole about the imagined PC police is just as absurd and damaging as the stupid minority of easily offended wallflowers. 

 

All as bad as each other.

Posted

Slapgate is interesting, and whilst part of me thinks there is a massive over reaction going on here, part of me thinks what if Vicki Sparks was my daughter? If that were the case I think I'd be deeply upset with Moyes

Posted

Sunderland

 

-------------Schmeichel-----------

 

Simpson----YB----Huth----Fuchs

 

Mahrez----Ndidi----Drinky----Gray

 

----------Vardy--------Okazaki---------

 

Everton

 

------------Schmeichel------------

 

Amartey----YB----Huth----Chilwell

 

Mahrez----Ndidi----King----Gray

 

--------Slimani-------Vardy----------

 

Rest Simpson, Fuchs, Albrighton, Drinkwater and Okazaki for Madrid

Posted
58 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

tbh you cant say anything nowadays without someone taking offence 

How dare you! I demand that you retract that comment immediately. 

Posted

would be nice to have a slaptastic performance tonight! we need to get slap into them and slap the ball into the box and have Vardy and Okazaki slapping the ball in the back of the net, it would be a real slap in the face for Moyes and Sunderland if we won this game comfortably.  so let's all slap our best tonight and have Shakes slapping up the plaudits!

Posted
24 minutes ago, harpendenfox said:

Slapgate is interesting, and whilst part of me thinks there is a massive over reaction going on here, part of me thinks what if Vicki Sparks was my daughter? If that were the case I think I'd be deeply upset with Moyes

 

If Moyes had spoken to any daughter of mine like that I'd have taken it as the light-hearted banter it was meant to be, and so would she, I'd hope, otherwise I'd wonder what she was doing in journalism in the first place.

 

What's transpired makes a mockery of our dealing with the real issues of female abuse - or any other abuse for that matter. 

 

 

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