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1 hour ago, chris_lcfc_85 said:

I can't believe we're not being linked to any right backs.... An area where we are massively short 

Think the club are allergic to buying them or they are deluded enough to think Amartey or some CB can play there. It really is confusing. If Simpson gets a long term injury we may be fcked. 

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44 minutes ago, waylander said:

Don't like barkleys temperment but could be a new Gazza in flashes I've seen . Another wasted talent or could our team spirit help him . 

Don't really need alcoholics in the team.....

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56 minutes ago, waylander said:

Don't like barkleys temperment but could be a new Gazza in flashes I've seen . Another wasted talent or could our team spirit help him . 

 

55 minutes ago, waylander said:

No don't want him he is a Richard head. ?

 

55 minutes ago, waylander said:

Would love he guy the new Gazza . ?

Make your mind up pal

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1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

Think the club are allergic to buying them or they are deluded enough to think Amartey or some CB can play there. It really is confusing. If Simpson gets a long term injury we may be fcked. 

Couldn't agree more. I rate simpson and he's a good defender but we need another right back option, preferably an attacking one 

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10 minutes ago, chris_lcfc_85 said:

Couldn't agree more. I rate simpson and he's a good defender but we need another right back option, preferably an attacking one 

Imo Mahrez was at his very best when he had de Laet behind him. De Laet's runs down the channel allowed Mahrez space to cut inside, because the fullback would have to follow De Laet.

 

A hybrid between De Laet/Simpson would be ideal.

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39 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

Imo Mahrez was at his very best when he had de Laet behind him. De Laet's runs down the channel allowed Mahrez space to cut inside, because the fullback would have to follow De Laet.

 

A hybrid between De Laet/Simpson would be ideal.

Finally someone else said it:thumbup:

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21 minutes ago, the fox said:

Finally someone else said it:thumbup:

We are at a bit of a crossroads.

Simpson provides stability and is one of our best defenders.

But a RB like De Laet, gives Mahrez more space.

 

I think we do need an attacking RB.. Not to replace Simpson but an alternative option, that can be used against teams that sit back against us would be ideal.

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59 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

Imo Mahrez was at his very best when he had de Laet behind him. De Laet's runs down the channel allowed Mahrez space to cut inside, because the fullback would have to follow De Laet.

 

A hybrid between De Laet/Simpson would be ideal.

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I don't wish to sound exasperated but why all the love for Sneidjer? He's about 110 and has just been released by Galatasaray? They've released him...they don't want to keep him anymore...and it's Galatasaray.

Brilliant player though he was, what makes people think he's going to leave Turkey to come and hit the ground running in the Prem? Have we not learnt our lesson with Inler?

Unless he's still fit as a fiddle  (which he might be) I'd go nowhere near a player who has just been released...in Turkey.

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We are crying out for a creative midfielder but also have a squad full of CM's. I would like us to take a punt on Jack Wilshere. 

Injury record is awful, but that is why bids of under 10million are going in and for that, it's almost worth the risk as if kept fit for 20+ games, he could make a huge difference in our midfield with his creativity and flair. We have enough cover in CM to accommodate someone who may not give us 38+ games.

Big IF, but if we can keep him fit, would be an absolute bargain for anything under 15million. 

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5 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I don't wish to sound exasperated but why all the love for Sneidjer? He's about 110 and has just been released by Galatasaray? They've released him...they don't want to keep him anymore...and it's Galatasaray.

Brilliant player though he was, what makes people think he's going to leave Turkey to come and hit the ground running in the Prem? Have we not learnt our lesson with Inler?

Unless he's still fit as a fiddle  (which he might be) I'd go nowhere near a player who has just been released...in Turkey.

He actually had a good season there, he got the most assists in the league and created the most chances. Not saying I'd have him, but just saying he's been released doesn't tell the whole story.

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3 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

We are crying out for a creative midfielder but also have a squad full of CM's. I would like us to take a punt on Jack Wilshere. 

Injury record is awful, but that is why bids of under 10million are going in and for that, it's almost worth the risk as if kept fit for 20+ games, he could make a huge difference in our midfield with his creativity and flair. We have enough cover in CM to accommodate someone who may not give us 38+ games.

Big IF, but if we can keep him fit, would be an absolute bargain for anything under 15million. 

I just don't think we can take the chance? The transfer fee probably wouldn't be the issue. It would be the wages. 

Say we signed him for 12 mill, with a contract of 75-100 k per week (ballpark) over three years, just imagine how much we'd lose out when he went and bust a leg in week 6. 

This can happen to any player BUT it's a known risk factor with with Wilshere.

Which makes it a big financial risk.

Now if we were perhaps considering a loan..... I'm more easy with that.

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4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I just don't think we can take the chance? The transfer fee probably wouldn't be the issue. It would be the wages. 

Say we signed him for 12 mill, with a contract of 75-100 k per week (ballpark) over three years, just imagine how much we'd lose out when he went and bust a leg in week 6. 

This can happen to any player BUT it's a known risk factor with with Wilshere.

Which makes it a big financial risk.

Now if we were perhaps considering a loan..... I'm more easy with that.

He has just 1 year left on his contract, so a loan is doubtful unless Arsenal still have plans for him and get him to sign a new contract and immediately offer him out on loan again. The problem with a loan deal, we may have to give him and Arsenal assurances he would start every game when fit. I guess this may not be a problem as when fit, he would most likely be our best CM.

 

He is still only 25 though, and with the ever advancing treatment around today, you'd think he may be able to sort his fitness issues out. 

Still think taking a punt and buying him for a cut price might be worth the risk, but the wages do add up as you said. 

 

On the flipside.. a more positive outlook. We buy him for 12 million. He manages a near full season with no issues. His value rockets from 12 million to 35plus! Wasn't that long ago Man City were weighing up a huge bid for him. I'd imagine Arsenal are aware of all this though and even though Sampdoria have officially bit 7.5million with add-ons, I can see Arsenal seeing more value in keeping him around just in case he does sort his fitness issues out. New contract and maybe a loan deal most likely I would have thought. 

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1 minute ago, STUHILL said:

He has just 1 year left on his contract, so a loan is doubtful unless Arsenal still have plans for him and get him to sign a new contract and immediately offer him out on loan again. The problem with a loan deal, we may have to give him and Arsenal assurances he would start every game when fit. I guess this may not be a problem as when fit, he would most likely be our best CM.

 

He is still only 25 though, and with the ever advancing treatment around today, you'd think he may be able to sort his fitness issues out. 

Still think taking a punt and buying him for a cut price might be worth the risk, but the wages do add up as you said. 

 

On the flipside.. a more positive outlook. We buy him for 12 million. He manages a near full season with no issues. His value rockets from 12 million to 35plus! Wasn't that long ago Man City were weighing up a huge bid for him. I'd imagine Arsenal are aware of all this though and even though Sampdoria have officially bit 7.5million with add-ons, I can see Arsenal seeing more value in keeping him around just in case he does sort his fitness issues out. New contract and maybe a loan deal most likely I would have thought. 

Absolutely Stu. It could go either way. Personally, id be doing my risk index on the player and be probably steering clear.

However, big shout this but IF he did get match fit, I think we'd be getting still possibly the most creative English CM in the country.

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2 hours ago, STUHILL said:

We are crying out for a creative midfielder but also have a squad full of CM's. I would like us to take a punt on Jack Wilshere. 

Injury record is awful, but that is why bids of under 10million are going in and for that, it's almost worth the risk as if kept fit for 20+ games, he could make a huge difference in our midfield with his creativity and flair. We have enough cover in CM to accommodate someone who may not give us 38+ games.

Big IF, but if we can keep him fit, would be an absolute bargain for anything under 15million. 

He's a good player, no doubt but I'd be surprised if the made it through the transfer window without falling out it and getting injured.  

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Dunno. 

 

More importantly, how will the forum survive if they do this ? 

 
 

Africa Cup of Nations: Caf considers summer move

 

 

Confederation of African Football president Ahmad
Caf president Ahmad Ahmad opens the two-day symposium on the future of the continental game

The Africa Cup of Nations could be moved to the summer as part of changes being discussed by the continent's ruling body.

The Nations Cup's timing in January and February has long angered clubs in Europe, where many Africans play.

The biennial finals could also be boosted from 16 teams to 24.

"That is the first thing to talk about - we can't get away from it," said Confederation of African Football (Caf) president Ahmad Ahmad.

 

We are here for a historic chapter and to effect great changes. These are decisions that will determine the future of our game

Caf president Ahmad

"We have already had a lot of suggestions," he added in his opening address at a two-day symposium on the continental game's future in Morocco.

An unprecedented number of players turned down call-ups for this year's tournament in Gabon to stay with their clubs.

This included seven Cameroonians who refused to turn out for the team that eventually won the title. 

Every two years, a club-versus-country row breaks out as European clubs complain about losing players during a crucial stage of the season to the Nations Cup.

Compounding the clubs' concerns is the fact that their players often come back fatigued from Africa's flagship sporting event.

For this year's tournament, 12 English Premier League clubs were impacted as more than 20 players left their teams mid-season.

Leicester, Stoke City and Sunderland were the worst affected as they lost three players apiece for a competition which ran from 14 January to 5 February.

Under previous president Issa Hayatou, Caf argued that the weather in many parts of Africa meant the tournament had to be staged at the start of the year.

Hayatou consistently rejected suggestions of a move to June, saying the weather then was too hot in northern Africa, too wet in the west and centre and too cold in the south.

Many believed his view was as much about climatic conditions as not bowing to pressure from Europe because African national teams and clubs play regularly during June without adverse effects.

A move to a tournament in June and July is also set to be discussed in the Moroccan capital Rabat - as is the less likely possibility of staging the final every four, rather than two, years.

Ahmad also wants to review rules on hosting the finals, which are proving increasingly prohibitive and reducing the number of potential candidates.

He has already suggested that co-hosting would allow Caf to consider proposals to increase the number of teams at the finals to 24.

Cameroon won the 2017 Nations Cup despite missing players who stayed away because of the event's timing

Africa's leading club competitions - the Caf Champions League and the Confederation Cup - will also be scrutinised.

There is the potential for a radical date change for the competitions, which traditionally run from early in the calendar year through to the respective finals in November.

"Africa has its particularities, like the great distances our clubs have to travel," added Ahmad, who goes by only one name.

"Clubs having to travel via Europe to play games is folly. We need solutions."

Workshops at symposium

1- Africa Cup of Nations

2- Interclub Competition

3- Football Development

4- Youth Football

5- International partnerships

6- Communication and Media

7- Marketing and TV

8- Players: role and perspectives

Ahmad promised a blanket review of the African game when he successfully stood for the Caf presidency in March.

"Never before has something like this been organised in Africa," he told the assembled 200 delegates prior to the start of a series of workshops.

"We are here for a historic chapter and to effect great changes. These are decisions that will determine the future of our game.

"My ambition is to effect profound transformation of Caf and I'm personally determined to see it through with all the members," Ahmad said in his opening address.

In addition to the FA presidents, secretary generals and coaches of each African nation, a host of former stars have also been invited to give their views - as per Ahmad's election manifesto.

The invited include Jay-Jay Okocha of Nigeria, Cameroonians Samuel Eto'o, Geremi and Joseph-Antoine Bell, Hossam Hassan of Egypt, Rabah Madjer of Algeria and Morocco's Badou Zaki.

Leading national coaches, DR Congo's Florent Ibenge, Herve Renard of Morocco and African veteran Claude LeRoy, the Frenchman who currently leads Togo, have also been asked.

"I feel this could be a crucial day for African football," said Fifa president Gianni Infantino, who is also in attendance.

"All the stakeholders interested in this beautiful game have to work to develop African football and bring it to where it belongs, at the top of world football."

 
 

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