The OH Leuven Thread

[UniFox21]

5 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

And yet there are people on here who would swap him in a heartbeat with our current manager.  

you could say that those people have their head in the sand...

[Heymister2015]

very similar results and performances to what leicester had when he came back! Took along time for leicester to get going again! He's a good manager

[Foxhateram]

1 hour ago, Suzie the Fox said:

And yet there are people on here who would swap him in a heartbeat with our current manager.  

Yep because he knows the english leagues well, has excellent player management skills and has links with England youth teams therefore allowing us to gain and develop quality talent. He also knows how to build a squad and keep the whole squad together and playing for each other.

[Suzie the Fox]

16 minutes ago, Foxhateram said:

Yep because he knows the english leagues well, has excellent player management skills and has links with England youth teams therefore allowing us to gain and develop quality talent. He also knows how to build a squad and keep the whole squad together and playing for each other.

Sorry but i want us to move forward not back  

[Soar Fox]

20 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Sorry but i want us to move forward not back  

We moved forward every season under Nigel Pearson 

[Suzie the Fox]

1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

We moved forward every season under Nigel Pearson 

Thats true (ish) but still .. 

[NeilLCFC]

1 hour ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Sorry but i want us to move forward not back  

Are we really moving forward at the moment?

[lgfualol]

2 hours ago, Foxhateram said:

He also knows how to build a squad and keep the whole squad together and playing for each other.

Didn't do it at Derby or Leuven tho.

[Lizhang]

Officially last in the league after today's games.

 

PS: the team we lost against today, were relegated last year, but because another team went bankrupt, they could keep their spot in our league.

Edited 15 September 2018 by Lizhang

[MPH]

4 hours ago, Nalis said:

Imagine Vichai sacks Claude and Nige on the same day.

 

 

Or if he sends a message to the wrong manager....

Edited 15 September 2018 by MPH

[Suzie the Fox]

1 hour ago, NeilLCFC said:

Are we really moving forward at the moment?

In my opinion yes, i think we are. Its not an overnight thing and we cant judge our progress on a crappy 4-2 loss to Bournemouth. I know we have had some shitty games under Puel and tempers/stress is ripe but i do genuinely think we are progressing. 

 

I know my comments regarding Pearson would perhaps be better in the unpopular opinions thread, but to be fair he is hardly pulling up trees at OHL right now. 

[stulcfc]

4 hours ago, Nalis said:

Imagine Vichai sacks Claude and Nige on the same day.

Or he could just swap them, I’m down with that.

[shade]

8 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

In my opinion yes, i think we are. Its not an overnight thing and we cant judge our progress on a crappy 4-2 loss to Bournemouth. I know we have had some shitty games under Puel and tempers/stress is ripe but i do genuinely think we are progressing. 

 

I know my comments regarding Pearson would perhaps be better in the unpopular opinions thread, but to be fair he is hardly pulling up trees at OHL right now. 

i don’t see this progress really? weak defensively, disorganised, ineffectual in attack, vardy isolated. the only thing i could say is we look more youthful, but is that enough.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Balls, hope Pearson can turn this around both for him and the OHL fans

[Stella]

Please tell us where we can drop him off? Pearson is the worst trainer we ever had, his added value is -100, he knows **** about (Belgian) football and it looks like he’s not able to learn ... on the tactical level he’s a disaster, kick and rush seems to be the only tactics he knows about. No motivation, no fighting spirit in the team, no coaching... Total miscast this guy.

[lgfualol]

Is Kapustka playing?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

16 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Thats true.

Well said

[Soar Fox]

3 hours ago, Stella said:

Please tell us where we can drop him off? Pearson is the worst trainer we ever had, his added value is -100, he knows **** about (Belgian) football and it looks like he’s not able to learn ... on the tactical level he’s a disaster, kick and rush seems to be the only tactics he knows about. No motivation, no fighting spirit in the team, no coaching... Total miscast this guy.

Filbert Way

Leicester

LE2 7FL

[Monsell1976]

18 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

We moved forward every season under Nigel Pearson 

I like you as a poster on here walshy, but we had some horrendous runs under Pearson, yes we progressed under Pearson, but not every season.

[Lizhang]

1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

Is Kapustka playing?

Last week he played for Poland. This week he played, though.

[inckley fox]

5 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said:

I like you as a poster on here walshy, but we had some horrendous runs under Pearson, yes we progressed under Pearson, but not every season.

We literally did. Every year we finished higher than the year before, regardless of how the points were distributed within a season.

 

It doesn't change the fact that it's not working for him right now at Leuven, of course. 

[Soar Fox]

Just now, Monsell1976 said:

I like you as a poster on here walshy, but we had some horrendous runs under Pearson, yes we progressed under Pearson, but not every season.

Oh yes I agree we would go on some terrible runs which it would take weeks to get out of 12/13 instantly springs to mind. But we would always progress position wise the following season under Pearson. 

 

League one 08/09= 1st

Championship 09/10= 5th playoffs

Championship 11/12= 9th (took over in November)

Championship 12/13= 6th

Championship 13/14= 1st

Premier league 14/15= 14th 

[KingsX]

It was a sad and bewildering day when Dorothy and her friends finally realized Uncle Nigel would NOT be coming back.

 

[inckley fox]

1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Filbert Way

Leicester

LE2 7FL

The poor start to this season at Leuven raises some questions about that. Not to mention the fact that the board seem to want to move forward in a different direction to the brand of football we saw under NP.

 

You could argue that his problems at Leuven are because he's without his usual backroom staff, or because he's not well-suited to Belgian lower league football, or even because he's not necessarily allowed to form a team of players in his own image (is Kapustka really an NP-style player? and what about the Thai goalkeeper he's playing, was he the driving force behind that?).

 

You could also argue that Leuven is a bit of a poisoned chalice, seeing as only one of their past 6 managers has lasted as long as Pearson, and he was fired a few months later. They're a club with small attendances by top flight standards and virtually no historical success, but many of their fans were calling for his head - even though he'd taken a side that was bottom but one a year earlier to second last year - on the strength of a handful of games with a new-look side, when they were still only 3 points off top when it kicked off. And many of the fans don't appear to be too keen on King Power, or foreign involvement in the club in general, so that doesn't help.

 

And, of course, you could argue that his past record suggests that this is all par for the course and he will eventually turn things round.

 

But the fact is that his record since leaving Leicester suggests that the backroom staff (two of which were the common denominators in the rise from the third tier to the title) were vital, and possibly even that some of the fire has gone out of his belly. It'd be great to see him here in a Rudkin-esque capacity, but there'd be a huge risk factor to anything beyond that, even if he is one of our greatest ever managers.

 

In all honesty, most of our greatest managers didn't do much elsewhere. Gillies, Little, Bloomfield, now Pearson all fall into that category. You might even argue that Ranieri and O'Neill had by far their best days with us. It doesn't change how successful they were with us, but does serve as a warning if you're tempted to go back.

Edited 16 September 2018 by inckley fox

[Monsell1976]

13 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Oh yes I agree we would go on some terrible runs which it would take weeks to get out of 12/13 instantly springs to mind. But we would always progress position wise the following season under Pearson. 

 

League one 08/09= 1st

Championship 09/10= 5th playoffs

Championship 11/12= 9th (took over in November)

Championship 12/13= 6th

Championship 13/14= 1st

Premier league 14/15= 14th 

On paper we improved positions, when you look at it on paper, but going on experiencing it, league one with the squad he had, yes good season.

 Following seasons some shocking football but gradually improving the league position, without spectacular improvement, and then admittedly a spectacular improvement to win the championship.

 Then awful again for most of that premier league experience, and somehow stayed up.

 Puel has a lot of comparisons with Pearson, hated by half the fans, and inconsistent, and had terrible runs, Pearson divided fans opinions, some still think he can come back and all will be rosy.

Looking at his management career since leaving, for me it proves how much of an influence his back room staff had on his success, he’s not same without Shakespeare 

Edited 16 September 2018 by Monsell1976