Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 hour ago, Foxin_mad said: Wonder if the nob sits in the cheap seats at Arsenal.....no thought not. oh dear wrong again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Starting to sound as if Brexit is almost a secondary issue for the EU27. They're understandably a lot more exercised about what to do re. migration. Particularly an issue for Germany, given the previous influx and the split between Merkel and her Home Secretary, from her more anti-migration Bavarian sister party. If the internal political divisions within the German governing coalition lead to the collapse of the German govt, where will that leave Brexit? This all puts more pressure on the UK Govt to make clear what sort of Brexit we want - particularly as businesses are getting increasingly agitated about the continued uncertainty. The time for fudges and kicking cans down the road to avoid Tory party splits might be coming to an end.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: oh dear wrong again Are they the cheap seats. They all look like rich Islington cvnts to me anyway. Trying to be a 'normal man' what an absolute bellend. He is a out of touch political twat like all the other out of touch political twats. Edited 28 June 2018 by Foxin_mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 2 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Are they the cheap seats. They all look like rich Islington cvnts to me anyway. yes mate bloke front center in the white polo is always in Pret sipping a 8 quid coffee You're on yer arse. Get off it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Are there any cheap seats at Arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: yes mate bloke front center in the white polo is always in Pret sipping a 8 quid coffee You're on yer arse. Get off it Its London of course he is in Pret they all are. Corbyn is still a cvnt which ever way you look at it. Has he redistributed his family wealth out amongst the North? Taken in one of the many refugees he wants to make welcome? He is a very rich man lets see some action and wealth redistribution. He could sell his Islington house tomorrow and buy a full street of 2 to rehome people in the North of England? Why doesn't he do that if he 'cares' so much? Of course he is like many Islington socialists full of bluster and shit, happy to spend other peoples money as long as it doesn't make him and those in his comrade bubble any poorer. Edited 28 June 2018 by Foxin_mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Pret is hardly the embodiment of champagne socialists, you can get a coffee for 50p. Most of the 'rich cvnts' ((c) Mad_Foxin) would avoid the place like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Just now, bovril said: Pret is hardly the embodiment of champagne socialists, you can get a coffee for 50p. Most of the 'rich cvnts' ((c) Mad_Foxin) would avoid the place like the plague. It has got a pretentious name though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 minute ago, Foxin_mad said: He is a very rich man lets see some action and wealth redistribution. go out and vote for it and you'll see it boss. Until then you are firmly on your arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bovril said: Pret is hardly the embodiment of champagne socialists, you can get a coffee for 50p. Most of the 'rich cvnts' ((c) Mad_Foxin) would avoid the place like the plague. I don’t like coffee but I do like pret, the sandwiches are nice even if it’s a bit pretentious. Edited 28 June 2018 by Strokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 hour ago, Alf Bentley said: Starting to sound as if Brexit is almost a secondary issue for the EU27. They're understandably a lot more exercised about what to do re. migration. Particularly an issue for Germany, given the previous influx and the split between Merkel and her Home Secretary, from her more anti-migration Bavarian sister party. If the internal political divisions within the German governing coalition lead to the collapse of the German govt, where will that leave Brexit? This all puts more pressure on the UK Govt to make clear what sort of Brexit we want - particularly as businesses are getting increasingly agitated about the continued uncertainty. The time for fudges and kicking cans down the road to avoid Tory party splits might be coming to an end.... Unfortunately we still have a government that sees Brexit as a chore rather than an opportunity, the EU is collapsing in front of our eyes and we still can't seem to put any pressure on them at all, Trump's tariffs on German cars, Italian populism, Hungary basically ignoring everything they are told - we should be backing this lot up and causing chaos within the bloc. We've been brilliant at divide and rule in the past, not so much now it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MattP said: Unfortunately we still have a government that sees Brexit as a chore rather than an opportunity, the EU is collapsing in front of our eyes and we still can't seem to put any pressure on them at all, Trump's tariffs on German cars, Italian populism, Hungary basically ignoring everything they are told - we should be backing this lot up and causing chaos within the bloc. We've been brilliant at divide and rule in the past, not so much now it appears. I really don't understand stuff like this. If you want to leave the EU then fine, but quite why some Brexiters want to see the collapse of the EU is beyond me. If it collapses then millions of people's living standards will drop and we really will see the rise of extremism and isolation, which may make you wet your pants with glee but will damage the whole continent, UK included. This whole "us and them" shit is depressing as fvck honestly and makes you sound quite bitter. Edited 28 June 2018 by bovril 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 4 minutes ago, bovril said: I really don't understand stuff like this. If you want to leave the EU then fine, but quite why some Brexiters want to see the collapse of the EU is beyond me. If it collapses then millions of people's living standards will drop and we really will see the rise of extremism and isolation, which may make you wet your pants with glee but will damage the whole continent, UK included. This whole "us and them" shit is depressing as fvck honestly. I don't want to see it collapse, I want it to be fairer though to all its members, I want it to respect the wishes of the people of countries like Hungary who don't want the sort of multicultural society we have, I want it to respect the Italian people who voted the way they did, I want it to stop enforcing austerity on nations that have chosen a different route to that. If those nations fail for doing so that's up to them, but it shouldn't be the decisions of suits in Brussels to tell them it's wrong. The whole thing at the minute is a German scam and if it remains that way it deserves to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 5 minutes ago, bovril said: I really don't understand stuff like this. If you want to leave the EU then fine, but quite why some Brexiters want to see the collapse of the EU is beyond me. If it collapses then millions of people's living standards will drop and we really will see the rise of extremism and isolation, which may make you wet your pants with glee but will damage the whole continent, UK included. This whole "us and them" shit is depressing as fvck honestly. 1 Quite honestly, that's the least of the potential long-term consequences. The EU isn't the only bulwark against such a situation but you don't have to go back long to remember a time - a lot of time throughout history - where the major European nations really didn't get along. And that was really rather damaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Quite honestly, that's the least of the potential long-term consequences. The EU isn't the only bulwark against such a situation but you don't have to go back long to remember a time - a lot of time throughout history - where the major European nations really didn't get along. And that was really rather damaging. Being in the EU doesn't seem to be changing that atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MattP said: I don't want to see it collapse, I want it to be fairer though to all its members, I want it to respect the wishes of the people of countries like Hungary who don't want the sort of multicultural society we have, I want it to respect the Italian people who voted the way they did, I want it to stop enforcing austerity on nations that have chosen a different route to that. If those nations fail for doing so that's up to them, but it shouldn't be the decisions of suits in Brussels to tell them it's wrong. The whole thing at the minute is a German scam and if it remains that way it deserves to fall. You want us to "back up" authoritarian govrnments (Hungary) which is odd for someone who seems to consider themselves a libertarian. You want us to cause chaos, divide and conquer, etc, which is hardly the same as 'wanting it to be fair to all its members'. I find you one of the oddest posters on here, you seem to go from one position to the other, often contradicting yourself in the space of two posts. Edited 28 June 2018 by bovril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Just now, Webbo said: Being in the EU doesn't seem to be changing that atm. True, but at least it's resulting in them merely arguing in diplomatic prose right now rather than more...direct methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Just now, bovril said: You want us to "back up" authoritarian govrnments (Hungary) which is odd for someone who seems to consider themselves a libertarian and cause chaos, divide and conquer, etc. Hardly the same as 'wanting it to be fair to all its members'. I find you one of the oddest posters on here, you seem to go from one position to the other, often contradicting yourself in the space of two posts. 2 Not to mention a fundie religious leader, which coupled with authoritarianism isn't exactly the best mix for anyone not of that religion - nor anyone who isn't a bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 3 minutes ago, MattP said: I don't want to see it collapse, I want it to be fairer though to all its members, I want it to respect the wishes of the people of countries like Hungary who don't want the sort of multicultural society we have, I want it to respect the Italian people who voted the way they did, I want it to stop enforcing austerity on nations that have chosen a different route to that. If those nations fail for doing so that's up to them, but it shouldn't be the decisions of suits in Brussels to tell them it's wrong. The whole thing at the minute is a German scam and if it remains that way it deserves to fall. I think you are wasting your time Matt. It should be simple enough ... people vote, government sees job through. But this will all be derailed by people who think they know better and it will end up a complete mess. Then they will all ‘wet their pants with glee’ with shouts of I told you so. And some of the vitriol levelled at the PM who has the thankless task of overseeing all this, after Cameron whimped out and legged it, is ridiculous ... I think lifted fox would probably attack her in the street if he saw her. I fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 2 minutes ago, Countryfox said: I think you are wasting your time Matt. It should be simple enough ... people vote, government sees job through. But this will all be derailed by people who think they know better and it will end up a complete mess. Then they will all ‘wet their pants with glee’ with shouts of I told you so. And some of the vitriol levelled at the PM who has the thankless task of overseeing all this, after Cameron whimped out and legged it, is ridiculous ... I think lifted fox would probably attack her in the street if he saw her. I fear the worst. 5 You say that like it's a bad thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 minute ago, Buce said: You say that like it's a bad thing... I rest my case ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 17 minutes ago, Webbo said: Being in the EU doesn't seem to be changing that atm. True. Massive mistakes have been made and there's a lot of heads buried in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 minute ago, bovril said: True. Massive mistakes have been made and there's a lot of heads buried in the sand. Alright Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Just now, bovril said: True. Massive mistakes have been made and there's a lot of heads buried in the sand. Hopefully big Nige can teach them all about it, whist in Belgium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 32 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Quite honestly, that's the least of the potential long-term consequences. The EU isn't the only bulwark against such a situation but you don't have to go back long to remember a time - a lot of time throughout history - where the major European nations really didn't get along. And that was really rather damaging. The EU is now doing more to divide and dictate than at a lot of times in history - take away nationhood, the ability for independent governance and don't be surprised to find a deleterious consequence. 28 minutes ago, bovril said: You want us to "back up" authoritarian govrnments (Hungary) which is odd for someone who seems to consider themselves a libertarian. You want us to cause chaos, divide and conquer, etc, which is hardly the same as 'wanting it to be fair to all its members'. I find you one of the oddest posters on here, you seem to go from one position to the other, often contradicting yourself in the space of two posts. Thanks, I take that as a compliment, nothing worse than reading a response from someome and knowing exactly what the opinion will be. On the subject, not the government, the voters. Big, big difference. The people of Hungary have the right to decide the future of the nation of Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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