Buce Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 2 minutes ago, MattP said: The EU is now doing more to divide and dictate than at a lot of times in history - take away nationhood, the ability for independent governance and don't be surprised to find a deleterious consequence. Thanks, I take that as a compliment, nothing worse than reading a response from someome and knowing exactly what the opinion will be. On the subject, not the government, the voters. Big, big difference. The people of Hungary have the right to decide the future of the nation of Hungary. Rep point for deleterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MattP said: The EU is now doing more to divide and dictate than at a lot of times in history - take away nationhood, the ability for independent governance and don't be surprised to find a deleterious consequence. Thanks, I take that as a compliment, nothing worse than reading a response from someome and knowing exactly what the opinion will be. On the subject, not the government, the voters. Big, big difference. The people of Hungary have the right to decide the future of the nation of Hungary. I thought when you said "backing this lot up", you were talking about the government. And why do you believe the people of Hungary have had their nationhood taken away? Edited 28 June 2018 by bovril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 18 minutes ago, MattP said: The EU is now doing more to divide and dictate than at a lot of times in history - take away nationhood, the ability for independent governance and don't be surprised to find a deleterious consequence. You might be right on the EU, you might not be. All I know is that pretty much the entire history of Europe has been that of divide and dictate both on the continent and around the world and up until about seventy years ago all of that was often at the point or at least the threat of a weapon. And in my own opinion, that same nationhood was directly responsible for a lot of that weapon-pointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44640086 Ends justifying the means? (That being said, it's not like the UK could have told the Americans to knock it off without being laughed out of the room, is it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 48 minutes ago, bovril said: I thought when you said "backing this lot up", you were talking about the government. And why do you believe the people of Hungary have had their nationhood taken away? I wouldn't phrase it that way, I'd use the term "backing the Hungarian people" Why should be forced to accept things via EU legislation the people have overwhelmingly rejected ie migrant quotas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 2 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said: go out and vote for it and you'll see it boss. Until then you are firmly on your arse. Nothing stops Corbyn, McDonnell, Len McCluskey and co from 'sharing their wealth' now. So could all the other self righteous plonkers like Lilly Allen, Stormzy etc. They could choose to sell their expensive properties and donate their fortunes to the needy but strangely they don't . Why not set and example and show us its possible? Of course they could just admit they actually don't care 'that' much. Any of these rich folk can donate as much as they like to HMRC or charities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 10 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Nothing stops Corbyn, McDonnell, Len McCluskey and co from 'sharing their wealth' now. So could all the other self righteous plonkers like Lilly Allen, Stormzy etc. They could choose to sell their expensive properties and donate their fortunes to the needy but strangely they don't . Why not set and example and show us its possible? Of course they could just admit they actually don't care 'that' much. Any of these rich folk can donate as much as they like to HMRC or charities. 4 How do you know they don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, MattP said: I wouldn't phrase it that way, I'd use the term "backing the Hungarian people" Why should be forced to accept things via EU legislation the people have overwhelmingly rejected ie migrant quotas? Have they really accepted it, they've built a wall (with EU cash) and taken in about 12 migrants so obviously the EU isn't forcing things on them very successfully. Secondly, although I agree that the Hungarian people should be the ones who decide the future of their nation, they knew when they joined the EU that they would be pooling some of their sovereignty in return for help developing their country. Which is kind of the point of the EU, greater good and all that naff stuff, and something that countries like Hungary have benefited from. Hungarians are freer now than they have been at probably any time in their history. Edited 28 June 2018 by bovril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 26 minutes ago, Buce said: How do you know they don't? I am sure they would tell us about it on Instagram or something if they did. Most of them are just attention seeking bandwagon jumpers. Was it Lilly Allen who rented her flat out for £1000 a week then kicked the tenant out at short notice, obviously a top notch individual right there! It populism just left wing populism which bizarrely makes it more acceptable to some. People wearing T-shirts with Corbyn's face on and chanting his name is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 So, who's joining UKIP now that Sargon, Dankula, Milo, and PJW have started promoting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 4 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: So, who's joining UKIP now that Sargon, Dankula, Milo, and PJW have started promoting them? I'm surprised at Milo. He's always seemed an ok poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Matteo Salvini. the Italian President will wake the rest of Europe up on immigration policy, and hopefully drive a wedge between the EU countries, on his sensible stance. Good man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 ayy lmao #jezza #forthemany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 while disasterclass Theresa May is getting gangbanged by Jean-Claude Junker and Donald Tusk for favours our man JC is watching England win the World Cup with Danny Dyer while sneaking a crafty look down Pam Anderson’s top like a proper prime minister. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 20 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: ayy lmao #jezza #forthemany Diane Abbott is go na be well pissed. No sucky sucky for Corbyn tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Just now, Dr The Singh said: Diane Abbott is go na be well pissed. No sucky sucky for Corbyn tonight. He’d have em both he’s that sort of bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kopfkino Posted 28 June 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 28 June 2018 (edited) that second "twat" at the end Edited 28 June 2018 by Kopfkino 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifted*fox Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Dyer comes with the realness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 Corbyn's face when DD starts: The second "Twat": . In his accent, to my now very Northern ears, "Twat" is almost: "Sooo-atttts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 45 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: that second "twat" at the end On the table of assorted gammon at around 30 seconds in Harry Redknapp looks like a copy-past job in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 28 June 2018 Share Posted 28 June 2018 1 hour ago, Kopfkino said: that second "twat" at the end Basically what I’ve been saying for 2 years. Especially the second twat at the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 June 2018 Share Posted 29 June 2018 14 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said: ayy lmao #jezza #forthemany Not gonna lie he's growing on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 29 June 2018 Share Posted 29 June 2018 22 hours ago, Foxin_mad said: I am sure they would tell us about it on Instagram or something if they did. Most of them are just attention seeking bandwagon jumpers. Was it Lilly Allen who rented her flat out for £1000 a week then kicked the tenant out at short notice, obviously a top notch individual right there! It populism just left wing populism which bizarrely makes it more acceptable to some. People wearing T-shirts with Corbyn's face on and chanting his name is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. And if they did go public on how much they donate to charity/pay in tax, you'd slate them for that because in your view that's the only possible reason why they'd be doing it anyway. They can't win with folks like you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifted*fox Posted 29 June 2018 Share Posted 29 June 2018 you can campaign for fairer rights and equality for other people without having to give all your own shit away in some sort of heroic fashion. using your status as a celebrity to bring awareness to other people's woes is still a commendable thing to do without having to take your earnings and give them away ffs. such a bullshit argument lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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