Wolves pre-season friendly THIS AFTERNOON 3pm

[Foxxed]

How are we this shite playing the team that won the premier league minus kante and plus a better centre half? Even without Kante we should be beating Wolves comfortably.

[HankMarvin]

might have a better team than us soon

 

Championship Wolves set to offer Premier League Burnley £20m transfer fee for Andre Gray

[Tuna]

5 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

might have a better team than us soon

 

Championship Wolves set to offer Premier League Burnley £20m transfer fee for Andre Gray

He's from Wolverhampton.

 

If he goes Burnley are certainties for relegation.

[brucey]

West Brom and Liverpool in HK were two decent performances in which two draws would have been fair.

Luton's keeper played a blinder, probably should have won by more. MK Dons was a poor game although it was full reserves so not that bothered.

This is the first performance that I've had concerns about, so not quite panicking.... yet.

Will put this one down to a lack of fitness resulting in slow tempo and no press, which makes us shit because our effectiveness is basically based on high tempo.

But they better fix it soon. Two preseason games left, need to maximise the first team's minutes with minimal involvement of the reserves.

[HankMarvin]

5 minutes ago, brucey said:

West Brom and Liverpool in HK were two decent performances in which two draws would have been fair.

Luton's keeper played a blinder, probably should have won by more. MK Dons was a poor game although it was full reserves so not that bothered.

This is the first performance that I've had concerns about, so not quite panicking.... yet.

Will put this one down to a lack of fitness resulting in slow tempo and no press, which makes us shit because our effectiveness is basically based on high tempo.

But they better fix it soon. Two preseason games left, need to maximise the first team's minutes with minimal involvement of the reserves.

4th division team sneaked a 1-0 in the end, 6 shots on target. They looked like a youth team

[the fox]

1 hour ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

I suppose after we've lost 4 out of our 5 opening games we'll hear, 'Our season wont be defined by our results against the top teams' etc etc.

Won't really be fussed about losing against big teams if we are 1, not getting battered and 2, playing good football!

[Carter90]

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Nod.E said:

And the prize for overreaction of the thread goes to...

Maybe it is. I know that pre-season results mean nothing but the manner of the result is important. Those saying it's just about match fitness, our game did nothing to improve match fitness, we may as well have walked around Victoria park in pairs holding hands for 2 hours. Partnerships would have been stronger and the players fitness levels would have been just as high.

 

Fans were charged to watch the game, if it really means nothing then let them in for free. surprsingly it was a pre-season game for Wolves too and they played with an enthusiasm and skill that was sorely missing in the Leicester ranks. We have 12 days before the first match of the prem season, we should be able to put in more effort, make more passes and have more ideas than we did. That was the team that Shakey wants to start the season with and they were worse than the no-hopers who played against MK Dons.

 

It's not the result - true. it's the attitude.

 

Our team have either gotten old or have become complacent prima donnas happy to take their wages without exerting themselves too much. Some of the players on that pitch have earned over £1m since their last "competitive" match. I'd expect more for that outlay if I were the owners.

 

I'm sure the people criticising those of us unhappy had the same attitude last pre-season and look where that got us. We are no longer the team that won the league. In fact other than 5 games last season (5 games when certain players were trying to prove they were not snakes in the grass responsible for CR's sacking - and I don't believe that they were directly responsible) the team were pathetic.

 

Our one hope is that Vardy can score more one on ones than our defence concedes goals. When he is on form Vardy is a miracle, but as with yesterday and most of last season, Vardy is not scoring the 50% of the 2 or 3 1 on1s he's getting each match and our defence has gotten old and complacent and so are letting in more goals.

 

We've brought in Maguire - a great move considering that Morgan is washed up (he has been since before Huth arrived but Huth has carried him through a couple of season) and Huth is getting old. We've done absolutely nothing to replace/upgrade Simpson. He's a donkey and people were blinded last year because he remained at his donkey level whilst everyone else didn't bother to play. We need to replace Fuchs with Chilwell, he's given up trying and was a major culprit last season. He doesn't mind getting forward and shooting from outside the box but he doesn't want to put in the work as a defender 100% of the time anymore and that's what a defender must do.

 

If Vardy isn't on top form banging in 50% of the chances he gets then we need the Mahrez of the title season to reappear. He wants to go, he will go and even though I hate to say it it's probably best for the future of LCFC that he goes quickly, not after the time we can use that money for required squad building.

 

TBH even though I think Vardy can be the best attacker in the league on his day and Mahrez is one of, if not the best outfield player we've had in the team since I started supporting in the 60's. We'd benefit in the long run with a big clearout. Vardy, Mahrez, Fuchs, Simpson leading the way. Their attitudes since the title win are impeding the team. albrighton may be an average player but the effort he puts in every time he's on the pitch is what I want to see from my players. I want to see the youthful exuberance of Chilwell darting up and down the wing and Gray and Elliot Moore doing everything they can for as long as they can. I don't want to see the turgid mess we turned into last season with 1 shot on goal in a match.

 

It's not too late to get new young, hungry players in. Thanks to those who won the title but maybe your futures are elsewhere. Morgan and Fuchs in retirement (and again I want to say Morgan has been heroic and always gives his all, it's just that his all has always been limited and now he's old too) Mahrez and Vardy at Arsenal, Simpson I don't care where, Okazaki in China.

 

Get Gibson in to partner Maguire in a CB partnership for the next 5 to 10 years. Chilwell and a new RB (or Albrighton playing wingback ), We have a youthful midfield that can grow with the team but bring in a CM playmaker with Mahrez departure, Iheanacho and Slimani up front and lets play some attacking football.

 

I understand that this is pre-season. I'm not basing my post on pre-season but on the last 12 months and I'm worried for the next 12. The Prem is weak at the moment. we should be challenging for Europe this year (as we should have easily done last season), we can make top 6 with our present squad but not if the attitude is as it has been for most of the last 12 months, I can accept changing our old guard and battling for mid table too. There is no reason at all why we should be relegation strugglers whatever we do, just as long as we don't sit back and wait to go behind before we start to attack and play football. Our present defence has proven that it is capable of letting in 4 or 5 or 6 with ease and our attack has sown that it can't score half that many.

 

Flame away.

 

love FIF X

[l444ry]

Warning signs are there for all to see. Seem to be getting worse each game. Only positives I can see are Maguire and some fitness. Hopefully they'll get their asses into gear when the real thing starts. Very average pre-season.

[Fox42]

I'm not as worried as most are. Remember how average our preseason of 2013 was?

[Dr The Singh]

Wolves are a top outfit, I expected us to lose

[StriderHiryu]

For reference, here are our results of our preseason when we won the title. Slightly better, but not exactly indicative of what was about to happen.

 

It is very early to be writing anyone off, but I do agree that the warning signs are there for all to see. We played yesterday like the team that went sliding down the league last year instead of the the reinvigorated powerhouse that beat Sevilla. 

 

Personally I feel like we need freshening up. Someone class in the middle of the park that will put their foot on the ball and make things happen. I was hoping Iborra might be this player (and he still might be) because complacent is the word I would use to describe yesterdays performance. I felt like we disrespected Wolves and they made us pay.

[Ansteyblue]

Wolves did look good going forward but why is it every time we won back possession we just hoof it up to vardy ? This is not our game. 

[l444ry]

Results are not the be all and end all but surely some visible signs of tactical progress should be there.    

[weller54]

4 minutes ago, Ansteyblue said:

Wolves did look good going forward but why is it every time we won back possession we just hoof it up to vardy ? This is not our game. 

Isn't it?? 

You sure?! 

[Ansteyblue]

1 minute ago, weller54 said:

Isn't it?? 

You sure?! 

Quite sure vardy is so more effective when the ball is played through the defence not on to his head 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

9 hours ago, Carter90 said:

Not pretty viewing

[RowlattsFox]

The worrying thing is I think we can all predict that the team yesterday will be the team on the opening day. 

 

I'm looking down rather than up this season, and I thought that before losing yesterday. We haven't improved, and the problem areas are still problem areas. 

 

Hopefully this make Shakey think about our approach and target players who can add something different. 

[weller54]

22 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Wolves are a top outfit, I expected us to lose

Absolutely.. 

Won the top league THREE times. 

FA CUP.  FOUR Times. 

league Cup.. Once. 

European honours. 

....We had no chance! 

[North East Fox]

This was a friendly right? F me, we've all watched football for a long time. It means sweet fa. I might do the research shortly on the correlation between friendly results and actual football results.  Just have a word!!

[MC Prussian]

12 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

I suppose after we've lost 4 out of our 5 opening games we'll hear, 'Our season wont be defined by our results against the top teams' etc etc.

Let's get back to this after our first five games in the league!

 

The amount of scaremongering and overreaction following a defeat against a Championship side that have stacked up massively in terms of (expensive) personnel and are ahead in the pre-season is indeed staggering. Plus, you might find it an excuse, but I'm saying we're still suffering from jet lag and I don't think participating in the Hong Kong tournament was the right thing to do in terms of sportive development, it was merely a marketing ploy and could potentially cost us dearly. For every hour of time difference, you need a full day of recovery upon your return. Our team is not back to their best yet.

 

I'm curious to find out how we do against Borussia Mönchengladbach and whether the players will have upped their ante until then.

[weller54]

4 minutes ago, North East Fox said:

This was a friendly right? F me, we've all watched football for a long time. It means sweet fa. I might do the research shortly on the correlation between friendly results and actual football results.  Just have a word!!

What are friendlies for? 

Just increasing fitness levels? 

Aren't they also competitive football matches that you want to win?.. That builds a thing called confidence which the players can take into the new league season.. 

Struggling against the likes of Luton,  Mk Dons and then losing to Wolves is not the way to build confidence,  which is vitally important for any professional footballer. 

Personally I think these results speak volumes for where we are right now! 

[MC Prussian]

12 hours ago, daz*dsb said:

 

Not sure why really but there's far too many apologists on here who bury their head in the sand and pretend we're not shit and our recruitment is just fine. "it's only pre-season, it's not about winning" / "it's the top sides, what do you expect?" / "we're only Leicester we can't attract x or y", etc. bla bla bla. 

 

Actually we've got a terrible recruitment policy, we should be aiming to win any time we step onto a pitch for 90 minutes irrespective of the occasion and we look absolutely ****ing ropey as shit atm. Why accept such mediocre effort? 

We've got a more than decent side on paper, and it all depends on freshness of legs and the right attitude amongst the players. Personally, Mahrez' behaviour put a bit of a dent into the general euphoria following our good second half of last season, his transfer antics have been a joke. He's got quite something to make up for it (should he stay).

Slimani needs to finally come out firing on all cylinders, too. But it's not just him and his Algerian fella that I'm disappointed in and that I'm expecting more of now - we've had a handful of players who couldn't call upon their best behaviour and effort. Playing Drinkwater with that injury was a bit silly and dangerous (shooting yourself in the foot), Chilwell made the odd error here and there and Gray needs to get rid of his selfish attitude, playing with King felt more like having a simple passenger on board that needs care and attention.

 

Huth will be back in a few weeks' time, and I don't see our recruitment policy coming to an end yet. Another right-back would be crucial, as would be an attacking midfielder in the middle. What I've seen of Iborra so far is that he's fantastic covering the area from the halfway line back to our back four with his defensive duties, so we still need more impetus going forward.

[North East Fox]

3 minutes ago, weller54 said:

What are friendlies for? 

Just increasing fitness levels? 

Aren't they also competitive football matches that you want to win?.. That builds a thing called confidence which the players can take into the new league season.. 

Struggling against the likes of Luton,  Mk Dons and then losing to Wolves is not the way to build confidence,  which is vitally important for any professional footballer. 

Personally I think these results speak volumes for where we are right now! 

Well yes, exactly. Just for fitness. So if we'd won 3-0 how much would people look into it?

I'm not trying to deny it's better to win but this will have no bearing on how we'll do this season. And if a footballer is professional they should understand is was just a friendly and as a professional the last game has no effect on the next, especially a fkn friendly.

[Carl the Llama]

Let's not forget that Wolves made 7 subs throughout the game while we were deliberately giving our lads a 90 minute runabout, the only sub being the forced replacement of Slim.  Yeah the game was boring as but any attempt to interpret the result in the same way you would a competitive fixture is utterly pointless.