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Hijacking this thread to post/ shamelessly gloat about us beating NZ at the weekend.

 

A lot of takeaways from it:

 

- Our forwards are superb

- Peter O'Mahony is a legend

- We won despite our scrum half and 1st/2nd choice flankers being injured

- Our strength in depth is immense

- Jacob Stockdale is a work in progress but a potent threat from the back.

- Rory Best is not the best hooker around but he more than makes up for it in his on field leadership.

- ..... and yet we'll still manage to find a way of getting get knocked in the World Cup quarter finals next year!

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There's a Rugby Union thread somewhere. 

 

But yeah, the Ireland game reminded me of Leicester 15/16. It was probably the closest example of what we achieved. Everyone bangs on about how any underdog story is "doing a Leicester" now but this was different. 

 

What was like Leicester, was the absolutely insane level of commitment, fitness, determination, concentration, it was unbelievable. The level of intensity they elevated themselves to was phenomenal. There were Ireland players, especially in that defensive line, who will never have a game that good again in their lives. 

 

It was also, with all due respect to all parties involved, sort of a scary compliment to the All Blacks that it took the world's second best in form team having that kind of day at home, in front of their own fans, against a knackered All Blacks side to stop them. 

 

I don't say that to take the shine off the achievement at all and you shouldn't take it that way. It's not about disrespecting Ireland but just really, the All Blacks ARE that good. 

 

Joe S knows the score, he's smart enough to recognise that, they're still the favourites for Japan by a country mile. 

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18 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

There's a Rugby Union thread somewhere. 

 

But yeah, the Ireland game reminded me of Leicester 15/16. It was probably the closest example of what we achieved. Everyone bangs on about how any underdog story is "doing a Leicester" now but this was different. 

 

What was like Leicester, was the absolutely insane level of commitment, fitness, determination, concentration, it was unbelievable. The level of intensity they elevated themselves to was phenomenal. There were Ireland players, especially in that defensive line, who will never have a game that good again in their lives. 

 

It was also, with all due respect to all parties involved, sort of a scary compliment to the All Blacks that it took the world's second best in form team having that kind of day at home, in front of their own fans, against a knackered All Blacks side to stop them. 

 

I don't say that to take the shine off the achievement at all and you shouldn't take it that way. It's not about disrespecting Ireland but just really, the All Blacks ARE that good. 

 

Joe S knows the score, he's smart enough to recognise that, they're still the favourites for Japan by a country mile. 

Oh yeah, I'm not denying the All Blacks are still the best team in the world and the Irish media respect that.

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

There's a Rugby Union thread somewhere. 

 

But yeah, the Ireland game reminded me of Leicester 15/16. It was probably the closest example of what we achieved. Everyone bangs on about how any underdog story is "doing a Leicester" now but this was different. 

 

What was like Leicester, was the absolutely insane level of commitment, fitness, determination, concentration, it was unbelievable. The level of intensity they elevated themselves to was phenomenal. There were Ireland players, especially in that defensive line, who will never have a game that good again in their lives. 

 

It was also, with all due respect to all parties involved, sort of a scary compliment to the All Blacks that it took the world's second best in form team having that kind of day at home, in front of their own fans, against a knackered All Blacks side to stop them. 

 

I don't say that to take the shine off the achievement at all and you shouldn't take it that way. It's not about disrespecting Ireland but just really, the All Blacks ARE that good. 

 

Joe S knows the score, he's smart enough to recognise that, they're still the favourites for Japan by a country mile. 

I don't think you can compare....city><Ireland

Ireland have been the best European side for a good generation,they have lost tight games to the NZ,even being the better side on the day.I

Ireland also have also arguably 5-7 World best players,in various positions for long periods.Plus the Irish clubs have dominated Europe,

In fact taking that Mantel from Leicester Tigers,who themselves now are going through their worst period in their history...

 

Many fans/followers  won't know this,but Leicester Tigers,were since before the War,a Top British team,and probably the first Amateur-Profi team,well

before Profi-attitudes to club and country officially took off.

Tigers were renowned Wwide  for their profi ..management,coaching,close player-club-empathy,and our play and work of the playing staff.

 

football and Rugby,have different player club relationships.The closeness & empathy that Leicester city staff have found since Vichais family's involvement,is

more unique to the footballing world,though in Vichais/Top's  unique case could be seen as covering all sports..

Tigers-family,was more close in participation,managers and coaches,often in for the long haul. The Tigers-way,was an automatic ,self-recognition

and discipline that everybody pulls toward. A self made club,if you will. Coaches and management came from within and it worked,our most

Successfully periods also under Cockerill,was because of it!!!  

Tigers though,as soon as the professionalism took off and outsiders from the English/French fraternities started to invest with large amounts of money,

Even Wasps/Bath and Leicester can't compete.Long term!!  We will have our seasons,and if the club holds to (in our case) to older traditions of belonging,

we will always have a chance,of the odd glory season.

 

We will now be rebuilding with the next generation,Foreign player investment,worked by us firstly because they understood the Tiger-family and Way,

and took it on immediately,plus Tigers don't take on just any Top player..

Now it depends,how Tigers can evolve,where outside ,especially foreign players will now come to us,not on name but most likely wages..!I

2 playing generations of gone since Tigers were a Real power-house,where players just wanted to be a Tiger,so that unique aura that was

Associated with us,may not any longer be recognised by following would be incoming players. So after the Young-bros ,the next question,

can we still develope from within,where we can still produce 7-10 ,young local L' shire players,or Nick the odd one,who wants to

prove his higher potential, from other clubs. It could well be the Tigers-family and tradition,will be under its biggest threat, in this modern world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On ‎19‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 13:49, fuchsntf said:

I don't think you can compare....city><Ireland

Ireland have been the best European side for a good generation,they have lost tight games to the NZ,even being the better side on the day.I

Ireland also have also arguably 5-7 World best players,in various positions for long periods.Plus the Irish clubs have dominated Europe,

In fact taking that Mantel from Leicester Tigers,who themselves now are going through their worst period in their history...

 

Many fans/followers  won't know this,but Leicester Tigers,were since before the War,a Top British team,and probably the first Amateur-Profi team,well

before Profi-attitudes to club and country officially took off.

Tigers were renowned Wwide  for their profi ..management,coaching,close player-club-empathy,and our play and work of the playing staff.

 

football and Rugby,have different player club relationships.The closeness & empathy that Leicester city staff have found since Vichais family's involvement,is

more unique to the footballing world,though in Vichais/Top's  unique case could be seen as covering all sports..

Tigers-family,was more close in participation,managers and coaches,often in for the long haul. The Tigers-way,was an automatic ,self-recognition

and discipline that everybody pulls toward. A self made club,if you will. Coaches and management came from within and it worked,our most

Successfully periods also under Cockerill,was because of it!!!  

Tigers though,as soon as the professionalism took off and outsiders from the English/French fraternities started to invest with large amounts of money,

Even Wasps/Bath and Leicester can't compete.Long term!!  We will have our seasons,and if the club holds to (in our case) to older traditions of belonging,

we will always have a chance,of the odd glory season.

 

We will now be rebuilding with the next generation,Foreign player investment,worked by us firstly because they understood the Tiger-family and Way,

and took it on immediately,plus Tigers don't take on just any Top player..

Now it depends,how Tigers can evolve,where outside ,especially foreign players will now come to us,not on name but most likely wages..!I

2 playing generations of gone since Tigers were a Real power-house,where players just wanted to be a Tiger,so that unique aura that was

Associated with us,may not any longer be recognised by following would be incoming players. So after the Young-bros ,the next question,

can we still develope from within,where we can still produce 7-10 ,young local L' shire players,or Nick the odd one,who wants to

prove his higher potential, from other clubs. It could well be the Tigers-family and tradition,will be under its biggest threat, in this modern world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great post, and sadly all true.

 

We are now treading alien terrain, and sadly, it wont go away.

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It's got so bad the fans on Facebook and Twitter aren't blaming the ref every time they lose now.

 

Seriously shocking how mismanaged things seem to have gone in the last few years. I keep reading about how they're stuck in the 1990s in terms of thinking. Are they focusing too much on paying the stand costs or this hotel on the Granby St. car park? Their priorities don't seem to be on the pitch, that's for sure.

 

Aren't they also financially pained if they got relegated? High wage bill, high costs on new stands. Their ticket prices are pretty hefty, too, and I can't see many bothering with Championship rugby. I'm sure they'll have a second half of the season surge, but it's still a sorry scenario.

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Defending was fvcking awful for Tigers today, was hoping for a win to keep the group tight and give us (Ulster) a chance. Looks like the hope will be to take one of the three best 2nd spots coupled with facing a second string Tigers side in the final group game.

 

English club sides have sadly been awful in the Champions Cup bar Sarries of course.

 

Cant see past Leinster, Sarries or Racing for the title.

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35 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Defencing was fvcking awful for Tigers today, was hoping for a win to keep the group tight and give us (Ulster) a chance. Looks like the hope will be to take one of the three best 2nd spots coupled with facing a second string Tigers side in the final group game.

 

English club sides have sadly been awful in the Champions Cup bar Sarries of course.

 

Cant see past Leinster, Sarries or Racing for the title.

Sadly true, The Tigers era,lasted a long time,but it's not on the wane,it's dead and buried. That said we are still alive and kicking!!

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Again , sorry for the hijacking the thread but Simon Zebo can fvck right off with his post match comments in the media.

 

He was booed yesterday because he unneccesarily took the piss out of one of our younger players last time we played Racing 92, not for any other reason. His purposefully unspecific comments seem to imply sectarian or racist abuse which is distutbing so I would like Zebo to come out explain his comments and provide some specific examples rather than fuelling the pot.

 

Loved him in a green jersey but he's shown what a classless tw@t he is this season.

 

Edit - just to mention that if he did receive racist or sectarian abuse then of course, that should be condemned.

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Unlucky gents, yesterday could have gone either way.

 

Thought May and Ford had decent games whilst your defence were relatively solid. Your other wing needs to learn to keep the ball in play though, got tackled into touch far too often.

 

Ultimately, Henderson had a good game for us but Cooney made the difference when he came on. We'll probably get beat by Racing 92 or Leinster away in the quarters but decent effort for us to even get there in the first place, cant complain with 5 wins from 6.

 

Lastly, its sad to see a win at Tigers that would have been regarded as famous in the past but not so much anymore. Hopefully things turn around for you guys.

 

 

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If Leinster win and Toulouse win with a bonus point, the quarters would see 3 matches ups from teams who have faced each other already in their same respective groups (Leinster v Toulouse, Racing v Ulster, Sarries v Glasgow). Bit uninspiring but such is the intricacies of the format.

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On 13/01/2019 at 07:17, Nalis said:

Again , sorry for the hijacking the thread but Simon Zebo can fvck right off with his post match comments in the media.

 

He was booed yesterday because he unneccesarily took the piss out of one of our younger players last time we played Racing 92, not for any other reason. His purposefully unspecific comments seem to imply sectarian or racist abuse which is distutbing so I would like Zebo to come out explain his comments and provide some specific examples rather than fuelling the pot.

 

Loved him in a green jersey but he's shown what a classless tw@t he is this season.

 

Edit - just to mention that if he did receive racist or sectarian abuse then of course, that should be condemned.

Turns out it was some knuckle dragger spouting racist abuse after all. Zebo thanked Ulster Rugby for their actions in banning the idiot in question.  Fair play from all parties. Note to self - think bfore posting...

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11 hours ago, deejdeej said:

What a mess, the club needs a total overhaul.

Looks like  it .......  but surely it can’t have gone so badly wrong in just a few years ......... years ago we used to laugh at Gloucester and Bristol and further back Coventry ........ now we’re in danger of heading the same way as those West Country ‘giants’ .......

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