BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Just now, chapero82 said: Losing 22M for signing Silva or lose 100M for not having enough midfielders to stay up? Hmmm Haha if you think Silva is the difference between staying up and not, you really have lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 get fifa to get neymar back in barca and to stop mbappe going to PSG then we won't play silva if that doesn't happen just play him. Why should we be played like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 hour ago, 4everfox said: Why is Danny Drinkwater a Chelsea player when the club said he would not be sold unless Silva was brought in first? I have no reason to believe the club are at fault here else Drinkwater's transfer would have been rejected by FIFA too, because it was completed after the Silva deal right? This whole situation stinks of big club bias and corruption to me. Because we clearly prioritised making sure danny was sorted first, so he got done in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Foxed Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 5 minutes ago, Jonezy said: What a mess. Months of transfer window and it is still panic season at the very last minute. Should have said no to Chelsea and DD, if there was just a little doubt if we could get Silva in, and there must have been some doubt. Very harsh lessons learned and the infrastructure at the club simply have to learn from this and improve. Well Matty James will at least get a proper chance to show what he can do at this level and I frickin hope Iborra adapt well and quickly. it's even worse when you realise that this is someone we tried to sign in a previous window and therefore communication channels were already open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 We're ****ed, Congratulations of this embarrassment LCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Just now, DatfoxesKid23 said: get fifa to get neymar back in barca and to stop mbappe going to PSG then we won't play silva if that doesn't happen just play him. Why should we be played like this? What rules have PSG broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Interesting thing about transfer windows is that they are set by the individual leagues rather than FIFA themselves. So why does FIFA have the power to stop the deal? Surely if you let the leagues decide the days, then registering players is their decision. It's not a drop dead date for every league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, BigMicky said: What rules have PSG broken? FFP and bent around FFP with mbappe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 4 minutes ago, chapero82 said: Losing 22M for signing Silva or lose 100M for not having enough midfielders to stay up? Hmmm your post is too logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Just now, DatfoxesKid23 said: FFP Really.. Can you share the evidence with us all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, BigMicky said: What rules have PSG broken? None. They've just found a massive loophole and laughed in Fifa's face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 7 minutes ago, BigMicky said: That's irrelevant, if you are looking to safeguard the future of the club, you don't go chucking the cash around. What would we have done with the midfielders we already have if Drinkwater hadn't signed and Silva did. How would we have kept them all happy. A lot of you are forgetting about Iborra.. Given we've scouted him and tracked him for the past year or two then tried to sign him last year I wouldn't cal it chucking cash around, we obviously saw something in him and obviously wanted him regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 3 minutes ago, BigMicky said: Really.. Can you share the evidence with us all? 199.80m + 15m + 141 million (minus add ons) mbappe deal once the "loan" is finished I have to say it is clever how they managed to pull it off but unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 It's not the difference between staying up or not but I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that it could be the final nail in us pushing for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 3 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said: None. They've just found a massive loophole and laughed in Fifa's face UEFA, FIFA have nothing to do with FFP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, Matt said: Given we've scouted him and tracked him for the past year or two then tried to sign him last year I wouldn't cal it chucking cash around, we obviously saw something in him and obviously wanted him regardless. Irrelevant again. As a said what would have happened if Drinkwater hadn't gone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, Matt said: Given we've scouted him and tracked him for the past year or two then tried to sign him last year I wouldn't cal it chucking cash around, we obviously saw something in him and obviously wanted him regardless. before we signed iborra - yes. with iborra and a fit james, we couldn't have DD and AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Interesting thing about transfer windows is that they are set by the individual leagues rather than FIFA themselves. So why does FIFA have the power to stop the deal? Surely if you let the leagues decide the days, then registering players is their decision. It's not a drop dead date for every league. Yes - the De Gea deal was blocked by La Liga rules NOT FIFA (as some on here have implied). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, Dan LCFC said: It's not the difference between staying up or not but I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that it could be the final nail in us pushing for Europe. I'd agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, BigMicky said: Irrelevant again. As a said what would have happened if Drinkwater hadn't gone?? As I eluded to earlier, this whole situation has come about because DD put his request in far, far too late. People on here are being too nice to DD. If he hadn't left, we wouldn't have found ourselves in the position we do now. He will be booed on Saturday over this because many fans will see him leaving late, and us not pushing this deal over the line in time, as his fault. They will. Expect boos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, trabuch said: Yes - the De Gea deal was blocked by La Liga rules NOT FIFA (as some on here have implied). plot to get us relegated I tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 6 minutes ago, BigMicky said: Irrelevant again. As a said what would have happened if Drinkwater hadn't gone?? But we were only signing Silva if Drinkwater went, so how did they **** this up? How long did we have to sort a deal with Sporting/with Silva? I think Silva was here before we even gave the go ahead for Drinkwater, so we had more time to sort it that Chelsea yet we still can't sort anything out. Surely a deal should have been set up to give the go ahead the moment Chelsea struck the right price/deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Just now, Legend_in_blue said: As I eluded to earlier, this whole situation has come about because DD put his request in far, far too late. People on here are being too nice to DD. If he hadn't left, we wouldn't have found ourselves in the position we do now. He will be booed on Saturday over this because many fans will see him leaving late, and us not pushing this deal over the line in time, as his fault. They will. Expect boos. It came about as Chelsea were trying to play hardball over the fee and they didn't have a leg to stand on. We stayed firm and got our fair price, great business practice. How about a big well done for Rudkin getting a great fee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 18 minutes ago, Matt said: Pathetic. I actually agree with FIFA aswell, rules are rules, deadlines are there for a reason and lines need drawing, 1 second or 14 seconds, as petty as that is. If it was another clubs i'd be pointing and laughing, saying rules and rules, deadlines are there for a reason so i'm not gonna change that just because it's us (Apart from i'm not pointing and laughing). Heads need to roll in our transfer department. Not just because of this, because our history regards transfers, we are pathetic, I imagine League One clubs have a better department that us. This isn't just Rudkin i'm aiming at, i'm not even sure I am aiming it at him, i'm aiming it at the department, the 'team', there needs to be an internal investigation, it's not just signings on the pitch that are needed but I think things need replacing off it aswell. I was saying all the above before this, so it's not just a kneejerk reaction to this, the whole department, 'team', transfer system, policy, however you want to word it needs upgrading, improving, replacing. Laughing, Stock. Rules are rules, but there should also be a bit of common sense in things like this. No one's going to die or get injured and part of FIFA's aim is to promote the game of football. Well they're not going to promote the game of football by potentially penalising a player by preventing him from playing in one of their competitions although he has done nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, Matt said: But we were only signing Silva if Drinkwater went, so how did they **** this up? How long did we have to sort a deal with Sporting/with Silva? I think Silva was here before we even gave the go ahead for Drinkwater, so we had more time to sort it that them yet we still can't sort anything out. Surely a deal should have been set up to give the go ahead the moment Chelsea struck the right price/deal with us. What time did Chelsea agree our fee for Drinkwater? We have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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