Guest Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, WigstonWanderer said: Well it is a full time job. I'm here in Aus putting in a stint and it's 2:50 in the morning. keep them home fires burnin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 22 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: Whatever happens we should go through with the purchase, we should pay the man his agreed wage and see him right. We have cocked up here and if we screw Adrien over because of it we'll be no better than these European charlatans in Fifa. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOfMelton Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, Master Fox said: Can't Sporting loan him to us until January? He's not Sporting's player, he's ours. We just can't register him to play until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 1 minute ago, FoxOfMelton said: He's not Sporting's player, he's ours. We just can't register him to play until January. Whats the fine if we play an unregistered player? The Premier League don't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Just now, Master Fox said: Whats the fine if we play an unregistered player? The Premier League don't care? I think they would deduct points, which means we will end up winning the league with only 75-80 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 25 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: If he stays with sporting we'll never get him, he should get to Leicester and make himself useful. We've already paid some money to them, we've effectively bought him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 24 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: Whatever happens we should go through with the purchase, we should pay the man his agreed wage and see him right. We have cocked up here and if we screw Adrien over because of it we'll be no better than these European charlatans in Fifa. 100% this. If we want to retain any credibility and respect at all then we should honour our commitments to this transfer. We can appeal the FIFA decision but if the appeal fails we will have to wait until January until he can play. Seems like we have made a monumental balls up on this deal so we will probably have to suffer the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Oh, good. Another reason to hate FIFA. 14 seconds is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les-tah Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 he is in Leicester then https://twitter.com/KentyLCFC/status/905467058044928000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 3 minutes ago, Nod.E said: Oh, good. Another reason to hate FIFA. 14 seconds is a joke. Having watched several James Bond films, that's enough time to save the world twice over !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 3 minutes ago, Nod.E said: Oh, good. Another reason to hate FIFA. 14 seconds is a joke. Reckon whichever one of us has accumulated the most 'in before the lock' s deserves the job going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 9 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: 100% this. If we want to retain any credibility and respect at all then we should honour our commitments to this transfer. We can appeal the FIFA decision but if the appeal fails we will have to wait until January until he can play. Seems like we have made a monumental balls up on this deal so we will probably have to suffer the consequences. Not to mention we've already had a deadline day cock up with Adrien; it simply isn't fair on him. We absolutely have to make sure he's looked after and ready to hit the ground running in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Where's Anderson Perry when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 I can only assume that Silva is waiting with baited breath for the outcome of this appeal and that if he can't play until January he's going to be fookin fuming. All depends on the personality type I guess. If he's the type that's gonna be happy being paid more money to sit on his arris and so sod all, he'll be laffin. If he ain't that type, he's going to be very angry if this turns out badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmic123 Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Common sense needs to prevail here, FIFA are trying to punish Leicester here but the big loser is Silva, through no fault of his own. Bureaucracy gone mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 The whole window system is crazy for signings. Once Clubs agree on a fee to buy or Sell, Then there should be a one page Transfer form signed and registered by both Clubs. All the legalities can be worked out over the Following Month. With Clubs having no option to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukla Leicester Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Haven't leicester used fifa's transfer matching system? If all the details are logged on there in time, surely its fifa that has dropped a bollock in sending the details thru to the fa late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Soapbox warning!! Soapbox warning!! I have no idea who is responsible for this king-size cock-up - and I very much doubt the culprit will be publicly 'named and shamed' - but as long as organisations are pressganged into employing people who fulfil certain - ahem - 'independent criteria' rather than those who are best qualified to do the job, inefficiency and incompetence will inevitably follow. This may or may not be the case here, but in my walk of life, alas, It happens all the time. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 4 minutes ago, Hammo said: Soapbox warning!! Soapbox warning!! I have no idea who is responsible for this king-size cock-up - and I very much doubt the culprit will be publicly 'named and shamed' - but as long as organisations are pressganged into employing people who fulfil certain - ahem - 'independent criteria' rather than those who are best qualified to do the job, inefficiency and incompetence will inevitably follow. This may or may not be the case here, but in my walk of life, alas, It happens all the time. ? Cheers Steve, we miss you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 6 minutes ago, Hammo said: Soapbox warning!! Soapbox warning!! I have no idea who is responsible for this king-size cock-up - and I very much doubt the culprit will be publicly 'named and shamed' - but as long as organisations are pressganged into employing people who fulfil certain - ahem - 'independent criteria' rather than those who are best qualified to do the job, inefficiency and incompetence will inevitably follow. This may or may not be the case here, but in my walk of life, alas, It happens all the time. ? I wish Thracian would give us a soapbox warning. Or just change his username to soapbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 So basically if we had extended by 2h and 15 secs.. everything would have been ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 Probably already been said but it was actually late being uploaded to the FA system not to FIFA directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will know all the facts until the hearing at CAS. i wouldn't be confident. There doesn't seem much evidence we complied with all the rules. FIFA seem to be rather intransigent on this for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will know all the facts until the hearing at CAS. i wouldn't be confident. There doesn't seem much evidence we complied with all the rules. FIFA seem to be rather intransigent on this for some reason. The merc have summarised it quite well; The stages of an international transfer Leicester City and Sporting Lisbon agree to the transfer of Adrien Silva. Leicester and Sporting then enter the details and documents for the transfer into Fifa’s Transfer Matching System (TMS). All the information must match. When the details are matched, the FA is notified on the TMS. This must happen before the deadline. The FA then apply for an International Transfer Certificate (ITC), through Fifa, to the Portuguese FA. This can happen after the deadline. The Portuguese FA will then ask Sporting and Silva to confirm that the early termination of his contract has been mutually agreed. Once that is done, they will accept the ITC. The FA receive the ITC and then enter and confirm the registration date into the TMS. Only then is Silva eligible to play for Leicester. So, what did go wrong? Leicester applied for a two-hour deadline until 1am to complete to deal to bring Silva to the club. City are adamant they filed their final documents before the deadline, however the FA did not receive notification of the transfer until 14 seconds after the deadline. One o’clock…and 14 seconds. When the FA asked Fifa to request an International Transfer Certificate from the Portuguese FA, they were told that they were too late. Fourteen seconds too late. Adrien Silva's move is in doubt after Fifa rejected Leicester City's application to register the player(Image: Getty Images) Even though Leicester are adamant they completed the paperwork before the deadline, it is the time that the FA received it that counts. This is time-stamped electronically, for those asking whether the relevant person at the FA was on a tea break at the time. Leicester are understood to have the support of the FA in trying to find a solution, and both have already worked together in asking Fifa if they are willing to change their minds. It was only 14 seconds after all. Not 14 minutes, or an hour. However, Fifa have reiterated their stance that rules are rules The ball, then, is now in Leicester’s court and it is up to them how they wish to appeal the decision. Leicester are believed to be considering their options for appeal, but are still hopeful of being able to resolve the situation. It remains to be seen what avenue they take, but they could argue that all their paperwork was done and sent before the deadline, and that there was just a slight delay, of just 14 seconds, in it being received on the system by the FA. Who will Silva play for? That is another question that still needs to be answered. There have been reports that, even if Fifa do not change their mind, Silva will remain at Leicester but cannot play until January, when he can be re-registered. The Sporting president said today that: "The transfer is done. What is at stake is the registration and I hope they can register." However, the Mercury understands that Leicester maintain that the £22million deal to bring Silva to the club will not go through if the decision stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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