the messenger Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 Prediction 442 Same team as against Chelsea. Nacho on the bench. Dragovic not even on the bench. Gray on the bench. Subs at half time. Will lose 2-0 Zero creativity Silva debacle not sorted. Huth and Iborra not quite ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 Fully expect us to win. 2-0 Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Clender Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 Schmeichel Simpson Morgan Maguire Fuchs James Iborra Ndidi Mahrez Vardy Gray No pissin around anymore, this is the first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 Hopefully mahrez is dropped. Lose against Huddersfield and the meltdown in here will be glorious Just hope gray, wes and James (the usual suspects) have a great game so some in here won't have any choice but to turn on their favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 I see us starting with something different this time: Kasper Simpson Wes Maguire Fuchs Mahrez Ndidi James Albrighton Okazaki Vardy 1-2 Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Dog Posted 10 September 2017 Share Posted 10 September 2017 We'll win this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 We all know the team will be: Kasper Simpson Wes Harry Fuchs Mahrez Ndidi James Marc Shinji Vardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagofox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 2 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: We all know the team will be: Kasper Simpson Wes Harry Fuchs Mahrez Ndidi James Marc Shinji Vardy Sadly we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanity Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 10:16, Clt1900 said: Okazaki will start. That is what I'm afraid of. Love the guy, but fear we are going to weight a couple fortunate goals far too heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPinCarolina Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 Anxious already. Must win at this stage in the season, IMO. Need some confidence going into the cup match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 This is our first 6 pointer of the season we are in a relegation scrap already , the last 10/12 games under Shaky would suggest we will be relegated if the results continue as they have been ! Massive massive game for Shaky and the club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 3 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: Anxious already. Must win at this stage in the season, IMO. Need some confidence going into the cup match. Best thing that can happen to us is to get out of the league cup we need to concentrate on surviving in premier league ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 10 hours ago, Danny Clender said: Schmeichel Simpson Morgan Maguire Fuchs James Iborra Ndidi Mahrez Vardy Gray No pissin around anymore, this is the first 11. That team would get torn apart as the season goes on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 10 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: This is our first 6 pointer of the season we are in a relegation scrap already , the last 10/12 games under Shaky would suggest we will be relegated if the results continue as they have been ! Massive massive game for Shaky and the club ! For losing against the likes of Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City? No thoughts on the way we outplayed Brighton? Or comfortably saw off Watford? It appears to me with a section of fans who want us to fail at the moment, just they can simply say 'I said he wasn't a manager'. The negativity is shocking. The three losses this season compared to previous results since our promotion to Premier League compare favourably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 34 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: This is our first 6 pointer of the season we are in a relegation scrap already , the last 10/12 games under Shaky would suggest we will be relegated if the results continue as they have been ! Massive massive game for Shaky and the club ! Are people on here mental? We swatted brighton aside with consummate ease. Ww were 7 minutes from beating Arsenal. Yes we lost to Man Utd and Chelsea too but, seriously, we did okay. We will be absolutely nowhere near relegation. In fact, i think we'll end above Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 26 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: For losing against the likes of Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City? No thoughts on the way we outplayed Brighton? Or comfortably saw off Watford? It appears to me with a section of fans who want us to fail at the moment, just they can simply say 'I said he wasn't a manager'. The negativity is shocking. The three losses this season compared to previous results since our promotion to Premier League compare favourably. I want Shakespeare to succeed because if he does Leicester City does. The facts so far are that Manchester United were a far better team, no problem, though expecting James and the young Ndidi to cope with Pogba, Matic and Matt in midfield, not thinking they'd get over until was schoolboy stuff. We should have beaten a poor newly promoted Brighton team and we did. Against Arsenal however we should have got a minimum of a point and could have got a point against Chelsea but we didn't because of Shakespeare 's slavish aderehence to a 442 counter attacking system that he no longer has the right players to execute against top level teams. Together with his non sensical substitutions against the latter two teams tends to point to someone who may well be a good coach but a seemingly inept manager. He is effectively in charge of a multi million pound business and therefore this is not an apprenticeship where you learn on the job, he has to be immediately fit and capable to hit the ground running. He did have a number of games in charge last season where for me the warning signs were evident. If he can't adapt better and employ formations and tactics that are comensurate for a particular opposition team on an individual basis, my prediction is that we will only possibly beat the teams that have far inferior players than us. Even then, prepare for the odd suprise when an opposition manager outhinks Shakespeare and nullifies his predictable approaches and bizarre substitutions. I don't think we'll get relegated, but I do predict a low table finish under Shakespeare. We have some really talented players and think we should be aiming higher than merely survival and mediocrity. Huddersfield for example will be interesting. On paper it's a game we should win but Wagner is just one of those managers that may organise his vastly inferior players in a way to cause an upset. There's a reason for example, whatever people think of him, why someone like Alladyce consistently over the years can organise such suprises against the big boys and that is by recognising the abilities and falabilities of his own players and that of the opposition and sets out his tactics and team selection accordingly. I will no doubt get slated for this for either being either negative or a Shakespeare hater of which I'm neither. I'm just voicing my opinion of how I see things thus far, not saying that I'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 57 minutes ago, toddybad said: Are people on here mental? We swatted brighton aside with consummate ease. Ww were 7 minutes from beating Arsenal. Yes we lost to Man Utd and Chelsea too but, seriously, we did okay. We will be absolutely nowhere near relegation. In fact, i think we'll end above Everton. ..we won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 3 minutes ago, weller54 said: ..we won't! We've looked better against the top 6 trams than they have so far. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 1 hour ago, toddybad said: Are people on here mental? We swatted brighton aside with consummate ease. Ww were 7 minutes from beating Arsenal. Yes we lost to Man Utd and Chelsea too but, seriously, we did okay. We will be absolutely nowhere near relegation. In fact, i think we'll end above Everton. Of course it's massively early days but I'm not sure where the level of current optimism comes from on the forum? We leaked like the proverbial sieve against Arsenal, conceding 4 in the end. Man Utd should really have scored plenty more. Chelsea weren't at their best but didn't really struggle against us. Our only convincing win was against a Brighton side, trying to find their feet at this level (personally, I think we played them at exactly the right time) So defensively (albeit against the better sides) we are fragile (I'm afraid it's true..we concede too many) and offensively we aren't anywhere near creative enough. Our strikers look isolated at times. We've also just lost our best CM. I'm being serious, lose to the Udders and I think Shakey will start shaking. So to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 1 minute ago, toddybad said: We've looked better against the top 6 trams than they have so far. Why not? Because Everton have a better Managerial team in place and have signed some excellent players, who will eventually gel and perform well in the PL... Everton will finish 6th/7th /8th I think... Under Shakespeare we're going to end up 14th or thereabouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 2 minutes ago, weller54 said: Because Everton have a better Managerial team in place and have signed some excellent players, who will eventually gel and perform well in the PL... Everton will finish 6th/7th /8th I think... Under Shakespeare we're going to end up 14th or thereabouts! No chance. We've got some great quality. Once nacho man is up to speed our forward line will be less exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffolk fox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 29 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: I want Shakespeare to succeed because if he does Leicester City does. The facts so far are that Manchester United were a far better team, no problem, though expecting James and the young Ndidi to cope with Pogba, Matic and Matt in midfield, not thinking they'd get over until was schoolboy stuff. We should have beaten a poor newly promoted Brighton team and we did. Against Arsenal however we should have got a minimum of a point and could have got a point against Chelsea but we didn't because of Shakespeare 's slavish aderehence to a 442 counter attacking system that he no longer has the right players to execute against top level teams. Together with his non sensical substitutions against the latter two teams tends to point to someone who may well be a good coach but a seemingly inept manager. He is effectively in charge of a multi million pound business and therefore this is not an apprenticeship where you learn on the job, he has to be immediately fit and capable to hit the ground running. He did have a number of games in charge last season where for me the warning signs were evident. If he can't adapt better and employ formations and tactics that are comensurate for a particular opposition team on an individual basis, my prediction is that we will only possibly beat the teams that have far inferior players than us. Even then, prepare for the odd suprise when an opposition manager outhinks Shakespeare and nullifies his predictable approaches and bizarre substitutions. I don't think we'll get relegated, but I do predict a low table finish under Shakespeare. We have some really talented players and think we should be aiming higher than merely survival and mediocrity. Huddersfield for example will be interesting. On paper it's a game we should win but Wagner is just one of those managers that may organise his vastly inferior players in a way to cause an upset. There's a reason for example, whatever people think of him, why someone like Alladyce consistently over the years can organise such suprises against the big boys and that is by recognising the abilities and falabilities of his own players and that of the opposition and sets out his tactics and team selection accordingly. I will no doubt get slated for this for either being either negative or a Shakespeare hater of which I'm neither. I'm just voicing my opinion of how I see things thus far, not saying that I'm right. top post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 Col plays a dangerous game saying Utd should have scored more. They didn't. We should have beaten Arsenal, but didn't. I'm not sure the 'should' argument works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 2 hours ago, GaelicFox said: This is our first 6 pointer of the season we are in a relegation scrap already , the last 10/12 games under Shaky would suggest we will be relegated if the results continue as they have been ! Massive massive game for Shaky and the club ! Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 11 September 2017 Share Posted 11 September 2017 15 hours ago, the messenger said: Prediction 442 Same team as against Chelsea. Nacho on the bench. Dragovic not even on the bench. Gray on the bench. Subs at half time. Will lose 2-0 Zero creativity Silva debacle not sorted. Huth and Iborra not quite ready. That's the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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