Stadt Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 what price Sean dyche now !!! For leicester job he assume and take player to style they are suited
Dan Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 4 hours ago, Fox1norfolk said: Chopping & Changing is basically the only option if things are not working. Its no different from any other business, if the new product doesn't work scrap it and start again, and again if the new one doesn't work. Don't forget football today is a billionaire business. I suspect the owners already have the new manager on-board with next years plans and I suspect it just might be Mr Benitez ! If you did that in a business, you would surely have a look at why you keep having to change it and keep getting it wrong - something you're admitting to doing by sacking a manager. 1
murphy Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 1 hour ago, Callabinho said: Considering this was ages ago, do you even know in what context his was? Yes, because I read the thread, hence quoting it. You should try it.
urban.spaceman Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 3 hours ago, Old Fox said: I really don’t see what you all see in CP. He inherited a great squad that was coming off the back of a tough start following an assistant manager who should not have been appointed. Tweaked little and built on MA influence before then completely removing our DNA. We have gone from pace and closing down to dull, clueless, uninspiring tactics using players who should be dropped. His communication skills are very poor and history suggests he has struggled to develop a team in the PL yet some of you are willing to let him completely change our style and spend a fortune based on what? Personally I think it is a recipe for disaster and this is the most important Summer since Peter Taylor had his time. With RM leaving we need to embrace our qualities and build on the with a mix not just completely lose the pace, aggression and closing down we have established - yes improve the ball retention but build on it like Liverpool and Man City. I fear if he is given this preseason we will be relegation candidates by November and I don’t think it would be the case with someone who develops what we have rather than completely change direction. I'm not denying that some performances and results have been dreadful but there have been mitigating circumstances within that - worst fixture congestion in the league during the winter, injuries, 4 red card suspensions, the Silva and Mahrez debacles. Despite all that we're free of relegation with a squad that is in desperate need of evolution. Puel has a proven history of developing teams in France and I believe that he will develop us to the next level if given time, patience and trust. I see him very much in the Pearson mould - just look at the legacy he left behind. 2
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 8 hours ago, lgfualol said: Eddie Howe has obviously done an amazing job getting them to where they are. I think he would seriously struggle at a club with our aspirations though. I disagree but it's all about opinions. I really rate him. He's taken them from the League Two relegation zone, and potential liquidation, to mid table in the Premier League. That shows he's got something about him. I'd take him.
lancyclaret Posted 27 April 2018 Posted 27 April 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: People arguing for the sacking of Puel to bring in Dyche are literally making the case for keeping Puel IMO. Dyche has done very well this season, and deserves all the plaudits for what he's achieved. But he's been at Burnley for 6 years now, and in that time has been given an immense amount of time and patience to build his squad into one capable of having a season like this. They didn't even sack him when they got relegated - because the long-term project was more important than short-term safety. Sacking Puel after only 8 months would be criminal IMO. Most sensible and well-argued post on this subject. Until this season, most Leicester fans vilified Dyche with a passion, ridiculing his appearance and voice if not his tactics - so it amuses me to see how many LCFC fans have warmed to him now - more every day seem to want to welcome him.. Edited 28 April 2018 by lancyclaret 1
Suzie the Fox Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 8 hours ago, lancyclaret said: Most sensible and well-argued post on this subject. Until this season, most Leicester fans vilified Dyche with a passion, ridiculing his appearance and voice if not his tactics - so it amuses me to see how many LCFC fans have warmed to him now - more every day seem to want to welcome him.. I'm probably against the flow here. Have never disliked him as a person (looks, voice etc) but would not want him at LCFC. Not because i think he is crap, for Burnely he has been awesome and apart from when both clubs was fighting for 7th, always wanted Burnley to do well. Saying that i don't particularly want Eddie Howe either .. In fact of all the managers mentioned the only one of interest would be Rafa and that's a big ask. (Although i don't believe impossible.) 1
Guest kristianity77 Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 I'd absolutely take Dyche but the problem is Burnley's board had patience with him. He had a relegation with them, took them back up, then a couple of seasons to really start to put it all together. He wouldn't get that time here because our fans and owners wouldn't allow it. He'd be hounded out the door after a month or two of dodgy results.
Webbo Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 16 minutes ago, kristianity77 said: I'd absolutely take Dyche but the problem is Burnley's board had patience with him. He had a relegation with them, took them back up, then a couple of seasons to really start to put it all together. He wouldn't get that time here because our fans and owners wouldn't allow it. He'd be hounded out the door after a month or two of dodgy results. Nige had us bottom of the league for 6 months and if it hadn't been for his son her probably still be here now. It's not fair to say the owners are sack happy.
Guest kristianity77 Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 15 minutes ago, Webbo said: Nige had us bottom of the league for 6 months and if it hadn't been for his son her probably still be here now. It's not fair to say the owners are sack happy. That's fair I guess but at the same time that didn't apply to Shakey, Ranieri, Sven etc when times got tough and seemingly won't with Puel either if rumours are to be believed. Fact is I can't see us keeping any manager like Burnley have through thick and thin. And that's the recipe for success in the long term.
WigstonWanderer Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kristianity77 said: I'd absolutely take Dyche but the problem is Burnley's board had patience with him. He had a relegation with them, took them back up, then a couple of seasons to really start to put it all together. He wouldn't get that time here because our fans and owners wouldn't allow it. He'd be hounded out the door after a month or two of dodgy results. Not so sure about that. The common factor in the sackings of Ranieri, Shakey and Puel (if that’s what happens) is that the football was/is woeful. I think supporters would be more patient if the football shows some quality and is at least entertaining, even if results aren’t too hot. Everyone get a bit twitchy if relegation threatens however. Edited 28 April 2018 by WigstonWanderer
surrifox Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 Dyche's Burnley play dull football and were largely outplayed at home by a dispirited and unmotivated Puel managed City a few weeks back who ultimately lost after a defensive horror show in the early stages of the game . But you know all that - 1
ithuriel Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, surrifox said: Dyche's Burnley play dull football and were largely outplayed at home by a dispirited and unmotivated Puel managed City a few weeks back who ultimately lost after a defensive horror show in the early stages of the game . But you know all that - You mean that game where they scored the goals they needed early on and then just soaked up what Leicester threw at them Edited 28 April 2018 by ithuriel
surrifox Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 40 minutes ago, ithuriel said: You mean that game where they scored the goals they needed early on and then just soaked up what Leicester threw at them Yes that one - if that is what people want gerrimin !
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 4 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: I'm probably against the flow here. Have never disliked him as a person (looks, voice etc) (Sing-song voice) Suzie and Sean sitting in a tree K I S S I N G 1
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 20 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: People arguing for the sacking of Puel to bring in Dyche are literally making the case for keeping Puel IMO. Dyche has done very well this season, and deserves all the plaudits for what he's achieved. But he's been at Burnley for 6 years now, and in that time has been given an immense amount of time and patience to build his squad into one capable of having a season like this. They didn't even sack him when they got relegated - because the long-term project was more important than short-term safety. Sacking Puel after only 8 months would be criminal IMO. Post of the month. That it's only got 7 likes after 20 hours is very telling of the mindset of many of our fans.
lancyclaret Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Post of the month. That it's only got 7 likes after 20 hours is very telling of the mindset of many of our fans. Because it is the TRUTH. Some people don't like to be told the truth if it does not suit their agenda.
winteriscoming Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 Would rather have hughton than Dyche. Don't think we have a realistic chance of getting either imo.
Webbo Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 20 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Would rather have hughton than Dyche. Don't think we have a realistic chance of getting either imo. Yeah cuz Brighton are such a good prospect.
Weller Wing Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 (edited) Don't get the Burnley play boring football comments. They play to their strengths and give everybody a very hard game. Team and manager of the season for me. With a bigger budget and better squad Dyche could get City firing. Don't think he'd come to us though and wouldnt blame him. Edited 28 April 2018 by Weller Wing
winteriscoming Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 29 minutes ago, Webbo said: Yeah cuz Brighton are such a good prospect. It's more to do with the fact that at Leicester your one bad run away from the sack.
Matt Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: It's more to do with the fact that at Leicester your one bad run away from the sack. Puel's done bloody well to last this long then... 2
Tuna Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 I think people overestimate the lure of taking Burnley into Europe. He's been at Burnley for 5-6 years now, If I was him I'd be looking for a new challenge.
ThingsCouldGetMessi Posted 28 April 2018 Posted 28 April 2018 Got huge respect for Dyche and his achievements at Burnley. There is little stand out quality and no stand out players within his squad. It can be easily argued that Burnley should be in a relegation battle with the players that they have. Yet here they are in 7th place and very deservedly so. Dyche has done a terrific job and to me he is the manager of the season. He also did well at Watford, leading them to mid table in the Championship when they were relegation favourites before being booted following the Pozzo takeover. Could he adapt by getting another team to play a good style of football whilst still having a solid defence? That is hard to say and we won't know until he has that sort of opportunity. It's easy to criticise how Burnley play but you can't be having much expectation of a style when you have Ashley Barnes and Chris Wood up front. However, with his current tactics and success he will always be loved a lot more by Burnley fans than supporters of any other club. The job interview with Dyche would be the big key to me. His intentions as regards playing style and how he sees the best way to improve results longer term would be the main factors of whether I would employ him or not.
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