Adrien Silva

[RumbleFox]

3 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Watched him most of tonight and all of his home games for us last year. Stats are stats. No matter how many successful passes he made tonight it hardly made him a world beater. Ronaldo for example probably had a less successful pass count statistically but his were more ambitious and potentially game changing. Stats are a guide but never a full story.

I agree that stats are not the be all and end all and I also agree that some players have more of an impact with fewer "important stats".  What I do find weird is that you chose the night a player who just had more successful passes then any other in the history of Portuguese World Cup football to have a wee dig.  Seems churlish to me.  You may be right but today was an odd time to attempt to make your point.  X

Edited 25 June 2018 by RumbleFox

[volpeazzurro]

6 minutes ago, Beechey said:

Spoken like a true football scout.

 

Or maybe not.

No I'm not but a lot of previous signings have been very poor you have to admit. Our DofE tends to cop for most of the flack but he sure didn't choose them did he and nor did Ranieri.

[Beechey]

Just now, volpeazzurro said:

No I'm not but a lot of previous signings have been very poor you have to admit. Our DofE tends to cop for most of the flack but he sure didn't choose them did he and nor did Ranieri.

Won't argue against you there, but I think Adrien has a role to play here.

[volpeazzurro]

4 minutes ago, Beechey said:

What do you want him to do? His role wasn't a creative one. Want him to venture out of his position against his manager's orders?

No I don't Beechey your absolutely right, all I'm trying to say is that regardless of stats it' his performances in the premiership that counts for us and some people may think this is the dawn of a new revitalised world beater. Iran were no great team and in the premiership he would be expectd to produce more than his minor role tonight. Lest not forget, he really struggled against the mighty Fleetwood when they were slighty physical.

[RumbleFox]

4 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

No I don't Beechey your absolutely right, all I'm trying to say is that regardless of stats it' his performances in the premiership that counts for us and some people may think this is the dawn of a new revitalised world beater. Iran were no great team and in the premiership he would be expectd to produce more than his minor role tonight. Lest not forget, he really struggled against the mighty Fleetwood when they were slighty physical.

I think it is more that they are basing it on a very successful domestic and international career over 10 years than what was a very unfortunate and disjointed first season for him in England last year.  You may be proved right but he definitely has the pedigree and definitely deserves a chance before being written off.  X

[volpeazzurro]

3 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

I think it is more that they are basing it on a very successful domestic and international career over 10 years than what was a very unfortunate and disjointed first season for him in England last year.  You may be proved right but he definitely has the pedigree and definitely deserves a chance before being written off.  X

Club wise some success but also loaned out a lot. Internationally when they won the euros he didn't get a sniff. A decent player in his home league but I don't think that appears to transfer here well from what I've seen. Really hope your right and I'm badly wrong! Think he's only with them this time because their desparate due to injuries. On another note I was hoping to have a look at Perreira but they seem to prefer Cedric every game. At least with him I suppose Puel has worked wth him before which should be reassuring. 

[weller54]

43 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

They've just updated the online Urban Dictionary.  If you Google "Had a Mare" they now just have a picture of Weller54.  X

Haha!!.. 

Very good. 

But I'm still not convinced he'll hack it in the PL.. Wonderful having great stats (and loads of successful sideways passes) against Iran... But I'm not sure he'll do the same against PL midfield competition! 

Time will tell. 

[Manwell Pablo]

39 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Watched him most of tonight and all of his home games for us last year. Stats are stats. No matter how many successful passes he made tonight it hardly made him a world beater. Ronaldo for example probably had a less successful pass count statistically but his were more ambitious and potentially game changing. Stats are a guide but never a full story.

 

Oh was certainly game changing. Would of been three points instead of one if he could of beaten one of the most questionable members of the Iranian squad unopposed from 12 yards.

[FoxinNotts]

I also watched him intently tonight, and all of his games last season. He’s a classy player imo. Hope he gets the chance to prove himself in the Prem with us.

[volpeazzurro]

1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Oh was certainly game changing. Would of been three points instead of one if he could of beaten one of the most questionable members of the Iranian squad unopposed from 12 yards.

Haha yes, you're absolutely right!

[StriderHiryu]

It was interesting to see his performance tonight - it was what I would describe as a "metronome" style of play. It's true that most of his passes were sideways instead of forward but he kept the team ticking over and running at a certain tempo all game long. He was always there as an option, always well positioned and helped recycle the ball and keep it moving. Portugal had something like 75% possession in that game, and he did actually assist Quaresma, even if that goal was all about the finish. What an absolute banger!

 

This style would likely suit Puel's football and can help the team. It's a classic number European number 8 style role, and it means that your creative players should see a lot more of the ball. So in other words it's not Silva specifically that is there to be creative, but rather he facilitates the creativity of others. In Portugal's case this was their full backs, Joao Mario and Quaresma and for Leicester it will likely be Maddison, Chilwell, Ricardo and whoever our two wingers are next season.

 

It will be interesting to see how Puel sets us up next season, but in theory we have a destroyer (Ndidi), a metronome (Silva) and a creator (Maddison) as a central three. Puel typically went for a 4-2-3-1 at Nice and Southampton and now that we have more technical players throughout the side we might be way better suited to it. Don't underestimate the Ricardo and Evans signings as they along with Silva and Maddison can all play with the ball, meaning that for the first time possibly ever almost our entire team is decent technically. Ndidi is probably the one exception but he is improving and lets face it, his job is to get the ball back for us when we lose it.

Edited 25 June 2018 by StriderHiryu

[Dr The Singh]

Andy King would have been well impressed, those sidewards and backwards passes were superb.

 

 

[Dr The Singh]

I can t believe we have 2 players from such a mediocre team, and both are on the bench.

[RumbleFox]

36 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I can t believe we have 2 players from such a mediocre team, and both are on the bench.

I can't even.  

[murphy]

1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

Club wise some success but also loaned out a lot. Internationally when they won the euros he didn't get a sniff. A decent player in his home league but I don't think that appears to transfer here well from what I've seen. Really hope your right and I'm badly wrong! Think he's only with them this time because their desparate due to injuries. On another note I was hoping to have a look at Perreira but they seem to prefer Cedric every game. At least with him I suppose Puel has worked wth him before which should be reassuring. 

Do you mean the same Adrien Silva that was in the starting XI in the final?

 

 

[RumbleFox]

Just now, murphy said:

Do you mean the same Adrien Silva that was in the starting XI in the final?

 

 

Shhhhh, facts don't count around here.  X

[RumbleFox]

2 minutes ago, murphy said:

Do you mean the same Adrien Silva that was in the starting XI in the final?

 

 

He was also only "loaned about a lot" before the age of 22 after which he was pretty much an ever present for his time there but hey ho, why let the truth get in the way of a nice old fashioned witch hunt.  X

Edited 25 June 2018 by RumbleFox

[Livid]

In all honesty he's not what I expected. He did a job tonight that was unspectacular but he did it very well. He kept things ticking over and didn't screw up.

 

Last season he didn't do that role for us, but we have Wilf to break up play and play the simple ball. It seems like he was playing in a position totally alien to him trying too hard at times to prove that he was worthy of a World Cup place even after missing half the season.

 

Hopefully Maddison is the one we need because apparently in Ibbora, Wilf and Silva we have three defensive central midfielders.

[volpeazzurro]

42 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

He was also only "loaned about a lot" before the age of 22 after which he was pretty much an ever present for his time there but hey ho, why let the truth get in the way of a nice old fashioned witch hunt.  X

 

I stand corrected on all counts, so much for where I got my info from, seems like a firm grasp of the wrong end of the stick!

Edited 25 June 2018 by volpeazzurro

[Clever Fox]

He'll  only be a success here in a midfield 3. With WiFi on the right and a new signing on the left. Another big strong lad who can physical in midfield while Silva picks up the pieces and provides the passes.

He's  simply not quick enough nor strong enough for the premiership.

[okie fox]

I thought Silva played very well tonight.  He kept possession well, passed the ball, ran into an open position for a return pass, didn't hide, always made himself available for a pass.  That's his role in the team.  I hope he plays like that for us next season.

[HoustonFox]

5 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

He'll  only be a success here in a midfield 3. With WiFi on the right and a new signing on the left. Another big strong lad who can physical in midfield while Silva picks up the pieces and provides the passes.

He's  simply not quick enough nor strong enough for the premiership.

Love that WiFi on the right, when on form we always get a good reception and it sends a strong signal to the opposition that we mean business 

[st albans fox]

Funnily enough, Portugal lost control of the game when he brought moutinho on late and moved adrien across from his more central role further left. he was efficient. Him and mendy are quite similar types of player. he probably likes to get further forward given the opporuntity. 

[weller54]

7 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

He'll  only be a success here in a midfield 3. With WiFi on the right and a new signing on the left. Another big strong lad who can physical in midfield while Silva picks up the pieces and provides the passes.

He's  simply not quick enough nor strong enough for the premiership.

We need to get WIFI up to speed first though. 

Personally I think we need a broader band of choices to support Silva in midfield... Just to find that right connection. 

[RumbleFox]

8 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

I stand corrected on all counts, so much for where I got my info from, seems like a firm grasp of the wrong end of the stick!

 

I'm only being silly too, we all make mistakes.  Just riles me sometimes when players get a hard time.  X