New training ground announced

[Footballwipe]

If it's recommended for approval it's likely going to fly through committee with no complaints. Nimbys oppose all sorts and any application. This could be us, the rugby team or the FA putting this application in. It's change, and people hate change.

 

Just remember if the Planning Committee do refuse it, the club will immediately lodge an appeal with the Planning Inspectorate and, if the councillors have refused it on non-material grounds, the appeal will win and leave the Council picking up a bill for tens of thousands in the appeal.

 

All Cllrs on a planning committee are trained and educated in things like this. Look at the Hinckley/Bosworth battlefield site decision. This was approved because it met all the material and planning obligations despite lots of opposition. Lots of opposition doesn't mean it's not a good design or application fulfilling all the requirements. the committee members are well aware refusing an application has to be done for solid reasons with a legal basis or based on that area's Local Plan.

 

One way or another we're getting that approval, so I really wouldn't worry one iota.

[Clever Fox]

It's a win win all the way around for everybody. What an asset for any Community to have on there door step. 

For the most part still green field sites with a few goal posts and a few Golf holes. Apart from the Buildings which I'm sure will be well blended with the landscape.

Plus plenty of Money to keep the standards high and the Council happy. What's not to like about it.

 

We're on the way up. On wards we go. 

[EnderbyFox]

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Worries have also been lodged about light pollution from floodlights

 

[Babylon]

10 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said:

 

I live near some pitches that introduced floodlighting and I can understand that complaint. The houses that back on the the pitches must have lights through their windows no end during the winter. Can't imagine these would be like that though as there aren't houses backing directly onto it are their?

[lgfualol]

Inb4 we build this and get relegated

[Ted Maul]

Hopefully this is sorted so we can throw all legal efforts at the stadium expansion immediately.

[urban.spaceman]

FRANK IS GONNA BE SPEAKING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Papasmurf]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

FRANK IS GONNA BE SPEAKING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incredible scenes. Is this a public meeting?

[urban.spaceman]

23 minutes ago, Papasmurf said:

Incredible scenes. Is this a public meeting?

I just can't believe they've been released into the community!

[jammie82uk]

49 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

FRANK IS GONNA BE SPEAKING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep Going to speak and nominate 2 others to speak all 3 will be sharing a 5 min time slot 

[Spudulike]

5 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

If it's recommended for approval it's likely going to fly through committee with no complaints. Nimbys oppose all sorts and any application. This could be us, the rugby team or the FA putting this application in. It's change, and people hate change.

 

Just remember if the Planning Committee do refuse it, the club will immediately lodge an appeal with the Planning Inspectorate and, if the councillors have refused it on non-material grounds, the appeal will win and leave the Council picking up a bill for tens of thousands in the appeal.

 

All Cllrs on a planning committee are trained and educated in things like this. Look at the Hinckley/Bosworth battlefield site decision. This was approved because it met all the material and planning obligations despite lots of opposition. Lots of opposition doesn't mean it's not a good design or application fulfilling all the requirements. the committee members are well aware refusing an application has to be done for solid reasons with a legal basis or based on that area's Local Plan.

 

One way or another we're getting that approval, so I really wouldn't worry one iota.

Yep, all paid for by the Seagrave (and others) Council Tax payers.

 

I'd be getting a bit miffed by these objectors if I lived in Charnwood.

[lfu]

https://pap.charnwood.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00996785.pdf

 

Interesting doc here, a photomontage render of how the architects foresee the floodlights looking at night from nearby (spoiler: not nearly as bright and intrusive as some of the Seagrave residents would have you think)

[Vlad the Fox]

What about those in seagrave that approve? We've not heard anything from them, or are they forced into silence fearing that they'll be modelled into grotesque and humiliating effigies at the next scarecrow hunt?  While the opposition dance naked around a burning miniature model of the training ground under a full moon. 

[BeardyFox]

6 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

What about those in seagrave that approve? We've not heard anything from them, or are they forced into silence fearing that they'll be modelled into grotesque and humiliating effigies at the next scarecrow hunt?  While the opposition dance naked around a burning miniature model of the training ground under a full moon. 

Living in the village next to Seagrave I can confirm this is 100% true! 

[Itsthejoeker]

7 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

What about those in seagrave that approve? We've not heard anything from them, or are they forced into silence fearing that they'll be modelled into grotesque and humiliating effigies at the next scarecrow hunt?  While the opposition dance naked around a burning miniature model of the training ground under a full moon. 

 

 

[urban.spaceman]

2 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said:

 

 

Oh I just know that Frank is a member of the Seagrave NWA. 

[thesilverfox]

A photo of a tractor turning right has been uploaded now. Just to emphasize how life threateningly dangerous the junction is.

 

*Note to players and staff. Come in your very fast sports cars, not your John Deere's.

[urban.spaceman]

51 minutes ago, thesilverfox said:

A photo of a tractor turning right has been uploaded now. Just to emphasize how life threateningly dangerous the junction is.

 

*Note to players and staff. Come in your very fast sports cars, not your John Deere's.

This is the same guy who is creating a hazard by stopping and using his phone to take a photograph. And this isn't the first time he's done that too - he's previously admitted to stopping his car on the junction and getting out to take a photo on order to illustrate how dangerous the junction is. 

 

Then *someone else* wrote in saying not just the traffic was dangerous; someone actually got out of their car to take a picture the other day, which created a new, even bigger hazard.

 

This is also the exact same bloke who is furious about possible light pollution but at the same time has been demanding a brightly lit raised flyover for 28 years. 

 

Turns out Toff of Toff Hall isn't much worth listening to....

Edited 5 October 2018 by urban.spaceman

[thesilverfox]

7 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

This is the same guy who is creating a hazard by stopping and using his phone to take a photograph. And this isn't the first time he's done that too - he's previously admitted to stopping his car on the junction and getting out to take a photo on order to illustrate how dangerous the junction is. 

 

Then *someone else* wrote in saying not just the traffic was dangerous; someone actually got out of their car to take a picture the other day, which created a new, even bigger hazard.

 

This is also the exact same bloke who is furious about possible light pollution but at the same time has been demanding a brightly lit raised flyover for 28 years. 

 

Turns out Toff of Toff Hall isn't much worth listening to....

Brilliant!! 

[Liamlcfc1]

[lfu]

2 hours ago, thesilverfox said:

A photo of a tractor turning right has been uploaded now. Just to emphasize how life threateningly dangerous the junction is.

 

*Note to players and staff. Come in your very fast sports cars, not your John Deere's.

Using a mobile phone while at the wheel? I thought this chap was a road safety advocate?

[urban.spaceman]

23 minutes ago, lfu said:

Using a mobile phone while at the wheel? I thought this chap was a road safety advocate?

"Just another hazardous day risking life and limb crossing the Seagrave Thrussington A46 crossroads which Highways England and LCC say is not a problem. Would you please pass this photograph on to them. Thank you" he says.

 

Here's his photo:

https://pap.charnwood.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/01000006.pdf

 

He's literally stopped his car to take a photo to claim that he's risking his life when actually he accidentally illustrates that there are two clear lanes beyond the tractor which is allowing him ample time to cross.

 

Even worse, the photo is taken from the driver's seat pointing through the rear left passenger window, deliberately worsening the angle that the driver actually gets from that position and taking even longer to achieve the photo that he wants.

 

The tractor - with the number plate "Rodders" - presumably the farmer is an Only Fools and Horses fan; is in the correct lane and has ample room to manoeuvre into a position to turn right safely.

 

Or rather, he would if the driver who took the photo was giving him enough room to do so.

 

Stopping his vehicle to take a photo has not only delayed him from crossing safely but also put other drivers using the junction at risk because they've got an idiot in front of them blocking the junction.

 

Maybe we should just ban the people of Seagrave from exiting the village altogether?

[les-tah]

i hope this gets rejected and then Jelson build 1000 new builds on with 50% social housing and that lovely little village will get terrorised  

[Gillies Apprentice]

The Planning Committee agenda for next Thursday recommends approval .It can still be refused by the Members but if it is ,an appeal would be highly likely to succeed.   

Edited 5 October 2018 by Gillies Apprentice
spelling mistake

[Ted Maul]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

"Just another hazardous day risking life and limb crossing the Seagrave Thrussington A46 crossroads which Highways England and LCC say is not a problem. Would you please pass this photograph on to them. Thank you" he says.

 

Here's his photo:

https://pap.charnwood.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/01000006.pdf

 

He's literally stopped his car to take a photo to claim that he's risking his life when actually he accidentally illustrates that there are two clear lanes beyond the tractor which is allowing him ample time to cross.

 

Even worse, the photo is taken from the driver's seat pointing through the rear left passenger window, deliberately worsening the angle that the driver actually gets from that position and taking even longer to achieve the photo that he wants.

 

The tractor - with the number plate "Rodders" - presumably the farmer is an Only Fools and Horses fan; is in the correct lane and has ample room to manoeuvre into a position to turn right safely.

 

Or rather, he would if the driver who took the photo was giving him enough room to do so.

 

Stopping his vehicle to take a photo has not only delayed him from crossing safely but also put other drivers using the junction at risk because they've got an idiot in front of them blocking the junction.

 

Maybe we should just ban the people of Seagrave from exiting the village altogether?

Be absolutely hilarious if we get planning permission and he gets done for using his phone at the wheel at the same time. "Here's the construction company and 6 points, you prat."

Edited 5 October 2018 by Ted Maul