davieG Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 Memes, remixes and other user-generated content could disappear online if the EU's proposed rules on copyright become law, warn experts. Digital rights groups are campaigning against the Copyright Directive, which the European Parliament will vote on later this month. The legislation aims to protect rights-holders in the internet age. But critics say it misunderstands the way people engage with web content and risks excessive censorship. The Copyright Directive is an attempt to reshape copyright for the internet, in particular rebalancing the relationship between copyright holders and online platforms. Article 13 states that platform providers should "take measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rights-holders for the use of their works". Critics say this will, in effect, require all internet platforms to filter all content put online by users, which many believe would be an excessive restriction on free speech. There is also concern that the proposals will rely on algorithms that will be programmed to "play safe" and delete anything that creates a risk for the platform. A campaign against Article 13 - Copyright 4 Creativity - said that the proposals could "destroy the internet as we know it". "Should Article 13 of the Copyright Directive be adopted, it will impose widespread censorship of all the content you share online," it said. It is urging users to write to their MEP ahead of the vote on 20 June. Jim Killock, executive director of the UK's Open Rights Group, told the BBC: "Article 13 will create a 'Robo-copyright' regime, where machines zap anything they identify as breaking copyright rules, despite legal bans on laws that require 'general monitoring' of users to protect their privacy. "Unfortunately, while machines can spot duplicate uploads of Beyonce songs, they can't spot parodies, understand memes that use copyright images, or make any kind of cultural judgement about what creative people are doing. We see this all too often on YouTube already. "Add to that, the EU wants to apply the Robocop approach to extremism, hate speech, and anything else they think can get away with, once they put it in place for copyright. This would be disastrous." The Electronic Frontier Foundation and 56 other rights organisations sent an open letter to European lawmakers in October outlining their concerns about Article 13. "Article 13 appears to provoke such legal uncertainty that online services will have no other option than to monitor, filter and block EU citizens' communications if they are to have any chance of staying in business," it read.
Innovindil Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 I've been genuinely impressed with the recent EU law on data protection, but this seems (at a glance) wildly excessive.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 Oh no, just when I'd started sleeping well again
leicsmac Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 28 minutes ago, Innovindil said: I've been genuinely impressed with the recent EU law on data protection, but this seems (at a glance) wildly excessive. It's like pretty much any other attempt to regulate the Internet/digital information: if the Chinese can't even close to 100% do it with all the Emperors horses and all the Emperors men (not to mention all the Emperors cash) then what chance does anyone have?
Finnegan Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 Best way to ensure there are more memes on the Internet: say you're going to cut down on memes on the Internet. I imagine the 4chan reaction to this would definitely be "guys, okay, we should stop."
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 2 hours ago, davieG said: Memes could disappear online if the EU's proposed rules on copyright become law. HARDEST POSSIBLE BREXIT RIGHT NOW. WTO RULES AND NUKE BRUSSELS FOR GOOD MEASURE
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 The fear here is misplaced. The press, for one, would not allow something that would curtail the Article 10 EU right, Freedom of Expression. Indeed, in UK law there are many instances where a copyrights claim is not absolute - and to simply take down offending posts maybe counterproductive for the right side holder, for then they could not claim for an ‘account of profits’ from an infringement. There is also an unsaid truth by commercial copyright holders - many aspects of copyright infringement are of benefit to the holder themselves, especially in the digital age. From my experience of using YouTube, I would say their current system in terms of the use of Copyrighted music tracks is fair - a notification is sent highlighting you’ve used material held by another rights holder, but nothing is done immediately in terms of taking down the content, which is fair - because where used constructively, it can add value to the rights holder rather than diminish it, like I would think the example below shows.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 Nothing could ever stop the unstoppable force that is memes
CarbonVirtine Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 I'd be in favour. It's nothing to do with copyright infringement or whatever, I just find them annoying! Edit: perhaps I should have posted this in 'unpopular opinions'!
Strokes Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 1 hour ago, CarbonVirtine said: I'd be in favour. It's nothing to do with copyright infringement or whatever, I just find them annoying! Edit: perhaps I should have posted this in 'unpopular opinions'!
Carl the Llama Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 At least we finally have a good reason for Brexit: We'll make the UK a meme haven.
Strokes Posted 9 June 2018 Posted 9 June 2018 1 hour ago, Carl the Llama said: At least we finally have a good reason for Brexit: We'll make the UK a meme haven. But we won’t even have the internet without Galileo......In before some eurononce.
davieG Posted 5 July 2018 Author Posted 5 July 2018 MEPs have voted to reject a controversial copyright law in its current form, deciding to return to the issue in September. The law would have put a greater responsibility on individual websites to check for copyright infringements. But the web's inventor Sir Tim Berners-Lee and others had expressed concerns about the proposed rules, which they said threatened internet freedom. Opponents greeted the decision as a victory. Full report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44712475
Finnegan Posted 6 July 2018 Posted 6 July 2018 Best way to guarantee something happens: tell the Internet its banned.
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2018 Posted 12 September 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 16:10, davieG said: MEPs have voted to reject a controversial copyright law in its current form, deciding to return to the issue in September. The law would have put a greater responsibility on individual websites to check for copyright infringements. But the web's inventor Sir Tim Berners-Lee and others had expressed concerns about the proposed rules, which they said threatened internet freedom. Opponents greeted the decision as a victory. Full report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44712475 Vote passed today by the European parliament, article 11 and 13. Utterly ridiculous. Hopefully member states will fight back individually.
leicsmac Posted 12 September 2018 Posted 12 September 2018 56 minutes ago, MattP said: Vote passed today by the European parliament, article 11 and 13. Utterly ridiculous. Hopefully member states will fight back individually. Yep, it's bloody stupid and I hope it gets fought tooth and nail too.
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