Stadt Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 I'm not advocating sacking Puel but if we're really struggling this season José Bordalás at Getafe has done a cracking job. Worth keeping tabs on but we seem unable to appoint a manager from abroad and actually tempt a manger already in a job to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 I know it’s only the fans directly linked to a club who can make a firm judgement on a manager. However if we sack Puel in any position similar to currently, the public opinion will be that we are mad. Cue various pundits and various journalists jumping on too. All likely to feed into the agents of managers and managers. We commonly see Howe, Benitez and Wagner all cited as options but all three could hit the relegation zone and they know they have the comfort of a club likely to keep with them. Why change from that to a club who will sack you for finishing mid-table? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 4 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I know it’s only the fans directly linked to a club who can make a firm judgement on a manager. However if we sack Puel in any position similar to currently, the public opinion will be that we are mad. Cue various pundits and various journalists jumping on too. All likely to feed into the agents of managers and managers. We commonly see Howe, Benitez and Wagner all cited as options but all three could hit the relegation zone and they know they have the comfort of a club likely to keep with them. Why change from that to a club who will sack you for finishing mid-table? It was ok for Everton and West Ham to do it last season,Puel should have gone then,I don’t care what anyone says/thinks about us,they are mostly hypocrites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, elvisfmcfly said: It was ok for Everton and West Ham to do it last season,Puel should have gone then,I don’t care what anyone says/thinks about us,they are mostly hypocrites. West Ham were in and out of the relegation zone. Moyes had a contract to the end of the season. Everton probably was a little harsh - but they’ve ended up with the guy they always wanted and facing a points deduction because of it. You dont think managers would be put off by our managerial record? Edited 18 September 2018 by Cardiff_Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 2 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: West Ham were in and out of the relegation zone. Moyes had a contract to the end of the season. Everton probably was a little harsh - but they’ve ended up with the guy they always wanted and facing a points deduction because of it. You dont think managers would be put off by our managerial record? Maybe but the last 2 appointments should never have been made or Puel should have got the contract till the end of the season at most.We keep having bad transfer windows and appointing the wrong manager so we ll do well to stay mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 20 hours ago, Pete from the USA said: Wolves? Not really. We were very lucky not to be two or three down in 20 mins. Wasn’t this the game where we had two shots on target all game (?) with our goals coming from them and the other a deflection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 20 hours ago, Jimmy said: and Southampton again this season ? I’m pretty sure we were not good at Southampton this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 7 hours ago, Lionator said: Puel's previous record suggests that he clearly isn't another Peter Taylor. He didn’t pull up trees at Southampton as we know. France is a totally different kettle of fish. NB. None of the the above paragraph should be taken literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 All we seem to have done of late ,is to have managers in and out of the club like an overworked penis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 7 hours ago, Lovejoy said: Good to see that when we win, all the excuses are rolled out for why the opposition lost, but when we lose, it's analysed for all it's worth and exaggerated where required . Now get Rafa "5-4-1" Benitez in sharpish . Imagine the Huddersfield match is the reverse of the Wolves game. We start really well, hit the woodwork three times, have three shots on target as Wolves did yet we lose 2-0. Will people say we deserved to win afterwards on here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 1 hour ago, elvisfmcfly said: Maybe but the last 2 appointments should never have been made or Puel should have got the contract till the end of the season at most.We keep having bad transfer windows and appointing the wrong manager so we ll do well to stay mid table. When we sacked Shakespeare, the favourites were Pardew and Coleman. Say what you want but I'd rather make love to Puel than have either of the other two anywhere near our club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: When we sacked Shakespeare, the favourites were Pardew and Coleman. Say what you want but I'd rather make love to Puel than have either of the other two anywhere near our club. pretty sure some LCFC fans think Coleman is decent, already shown hes a crap club manager tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: West Ham were in and out of the relegation zone. Moyes had a contract to the end of the season. Everton probably was a little harsh - but they’ve ended up with the guy they always wanted and facing a points deduction because of it. You dont think managers would be put off by our managerial record? No, managers back themselves and don't really care as they're getting a huge pay off if they are sacked. The reasons managers don't go for jobs is resources. We've got such a lot going for us and are on the verge of huge expansions, some very good managers would come here with the right convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 Had we won Saturday, we'd not be having this conversation. Puel will see the problem, and it is down to more than just our centre backs being dozy and/or slow. It was all Leicester until goal 2, that's overlooked, or edited out of memories. There's a lot right, or going the right way, it just takes longer than 5 matches after a fairly big overhaul. I think that my main concern is I'm not convinced who the leader is, who is organising on the field. It's one argument in favour of Silva's inclusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: Had we won Saturday, we'd not be having this conversation. Puel will see the problem, and it is down to more than just our centre backs being dozy and/or slow. It was all Leicester until goal 2, that's overlooked, or edited out of memories. There's a lot right, or going the right way, it just takes longer than 5 matches after a fairly big overhaul. I think that my main concern is I'm not convinced who the leader is, who is organising on the field. It's one argument in favour of Silva's inclusion. What evidence is there that he will see the problem? I’m judging this from last season and it’s exactly the same,conceding 3 4 And 5 away from home regularly,he’s done nothing to fix the defending ,he’s a total Demic,I don’t know what people are looking at to be so optimistic. Edited 19 September 2018 by elvisfmcfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 if we sack Puel............we should just get Pardew, since in some eyes anyone is better than Puel, and Im by no means a Puel fan, just hate the way we keep chopping and changing managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 13 hours ago, Ric Flair said: No, managers back themselves and don't really care as they're getting a huge pay off if they are sacked. The reasons managers don't go for jobs is resources. We've got such a lot going for us and are on the verge of huge expansions, some very good managers would come here with the right convincing. Managers do back themselves - no doubt. As do players, ending up marooned at clubs like Drinkwater. But the last manager we pinched from another club was Pearson. He was managing Hull who were financially ****ed. Every manager we've hired since up in PL was unemployed. So it's either three things a) no manager at another club fancies it b) Rudkin and KP take the cheaper choice c) there's no footballing expertise to identify a promising manager from abroad or from the lower leagues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairbanksh Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 There really is something wrong in the higher echelons of the club. For a club with our resources managerial recruitment is poor, hit and miss. I don't understand why we can't identify /recruit young or experienced managers with some decent pedigree. As mentioned several recently have been out of work tbh Claudio was a lucky shot. I'm not sure what the answer is with Wheelman and Rudin naive to the extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly1 Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Rafa rafa get him in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 2 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Managers do back themselves - no doubt. As do players, ending up marooned at clubs like Drinkwater. But the last manager we pinched from another club was Pearson. He was managing Hull who were financially ****ed. Every manager we've hired since up in PL was unemployed. So it's either three things a) no manager at another club fancies it b) Rudkin and KP take the cheaper choice c) there's no footballing expertise to identify a promising manager from abroad or from the lower leagues. C) 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Simoken Posted 19 September 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 19 September 2018 I cant believe the shit im reading in this forum as of late. 5 games in and already looking behind for replacement. Sounds like the same old, sack and repeat bell-end fans, I dont wanna hear any of this 41 games b/s either. New season and style of play with new young additions, lets give the man time and not just a year, its a long term idea not a mourinho-esk mentality, we are not a big club but a mid table progressive club that aim for europe oneday. Get rid of that PL win out your ass it was a freak season. Expecting way too much right now. PATIENCE. results will come 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 7 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: What evidence is there that he will see the problem? I’m judging this from last season and it’s exactly the same,conceding 3 4 And 5 away from home regularly,he’s done nothing to fix the defending ,he’s a total Demic,I don’t know what people are looking at to be so optimistic. It's the difference between being sceptical and cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechey Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 5 hours ago, sly1 said: Rafa rafa get him in Didn't people say Puel's football was too negative? ... you sure Rafa is the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 I’m not certain he’d even be interested in the job but Benitez wouldn’t be as negative here. He’s always been pragmatic but that Newcastle team is absolutely toss. He wouldn’t have us playing free flowing football but we’d play higher up and show more ambition than how he plays currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Martinez reported as being favourite to take over WHEN Puel is sacked! ..out of the frying pan etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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