"No intensity, Spurs couldn't have wished for an easier game"

[davieG]

Up until they scored there was nothing between the two teams, we seemed to lose heart after that and that was made worse from what I’m told was an offside goal, having said that we never really looked like scoring.

[Izzy]

40 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Oh for sure, you can definitely make the argument that this style of play is totally unsuitable for this set of players.

 

But the thing is that if the directive of the club is to transition to a more technical style of football (as called out as one of the aims of the season in Vichai's notes in the first matchday magazine of the season), then it's one of those "suck it up and get on with it" type of things.

The club and manager can't get a free pass forever but personally I think it's quite a good time to be trying it. Not bad enough to go down, not good enough to really seriously challenge for anything and with a number of older players that over time have to be phased out... then why not try and evolve our football style to try and reach the next level? There's a reason why Spurs have remained strong after losing the title race to us whereas we have fallen back significantly.

We definitely have a clear identity and style of play these days that is more technically orientated that the year of the counter attack. However, as of right now we just aren't very good at it and it's producing middling results.

 

Totally understand fans frustrations but it takes a long time to master something. If you start learning the Guitar today, you won't be playing lead guitar for [Insert Rock Band here] the following day.

Another good post Strider. You bring much needed balance to proceedings at times 

[Matt]

I thought it was edge of the seat stuff personally

[Corky]

We did have a go at the likes of Man United and Arsenal and people still moaned.

 

Tonight was poor and limp but the result is what fans look at.

[m4DD0gg]

54 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Oh for sure, you can definitely make the argument that this style of play is totally unsuitable for this set of players.

 

But the thing is that if the directive of the club is to transition to a more technical style of football (as called out as one of the aims of the season in Vichai's notes in the first matchday magazine of the season), then it's one of those "suck it up and get on with it" type of things.

The club and manager can't get a free pass forever but personally I think it's quite a good time to be trying it. Not bad enough to go down, not good enough to really seriously challenge for anything and with a number of older players that over time have to be phased out... then why not try and evolve our football style to try and reach the next level? There's a reason why Spurs have remained strong after losing the title race to us whereas we have fallen back significantly.

We definitely have a clear identity and style of play these days that is more technically orientated that the year of the counter attack. However, as of right now we just aren't very good at it and it's producing middling results.

 

Totally understand fans frustrations but it takes a long time to master something. If you start learning the Guitar today, you won't be playing lead guitar for [Insert Rock Band here] the following day.

Spurs didnt sell their best players and replace them with almost 100m of garbage like we have

[StriderHiryu]

3 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Spurs didnt sell their best players and replace them with almost 100m of garbage like we have

Definitely a mistake on our behalf. I do feel like we are trying to correct it now, but it was a missed opportunity for sure. But no point crying over spilt milk. Kante and Mahrez are gone, a bunch of shit players were brought in who have done very little. At least tonight Ricardo and Maddison, Puel's most expensive signings both played and were among our better players and Ghezall who came on had one of our best "opportunities" in the match.

 

We've all experienced literally the biggest high in all of football. Many teams won the title but Leicester are the only team to have pulled off a 5000-1. Now when we see a mediocre team barely laying a glove on a team we beat to the title we all get angry and upset and dreaming about that wonderful season when we turned the tables. So put yourself in the position of Khun Top or Jon Rudkin / Susan Wheelan who are in charge of this amazing club. How do you go about trying to better the greatest story ever told in football? It's easy to criticise but very hard to actually pull off, especially when many teams above us have bigger budgets and better squads.

 

The reason why I can keep optimistic is because we actually have a plan in place!
- Change the style of football. (In progress)

- Bring exciting young players through. (In progress)

- Build a world class training facility to improve all of our players. (Under construction)

- Improve the Stadium (Announced this will happen, details coming next year)

 

Is there a chance this strategy completely backfires and fails. Absolutely! But you know what, I love that are actually trying, and don't just have a Mike Ashley type in charge who runs the club to pocket all of the money themselves.

 

This type of strategy is a long-term strategy. How often does a team completely turn it around in a few games and go from being mediocre to being incredible? Even during our incredible transformation from Premiership relegation favourites to title winners, it took more than a few games to get our mojo going. This is a bit like trying to lose 3 stone in weight or something like that. It can be done, but it's going to take a hell of a lot of hard work, and going to take a while to do it.

 

10 years ago, we had just played Southend at home with Matty Fryatt scoring a hat trick. That was in League One! Who knows where we will be in another 10 years time? I'd like to think that with our new training academy, improved stadium and fantastic owners that we will be a very good team, playing very good football and trying to challenge for some competitions.

 

But it won't happen overnight.

 

 

 

[Ian Nacho]

Stick to the Jacamo adverts.

[Anglodanglo]

1 hour ago, fazzyfox said:

"No intensity" - It doesn't take a Jenias to spot that.

He's right though, it's the Jermaine reason we struggle in games

[VIKTOR-LE5]

Claude is the worse type of football manager you could have he's not negative, but, he's not positive he's just there, in the middle, CONTENT and Content don't win you nothing.

[LestaAl]

10 minutes ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said:

Claude is the worse type of football manager you could have he's not negative, but, he's not positive he's just there, in the middle, CONTENT and Content don't win you nothing.

Pue....I_/ o__ yo_ d__ide

[Wymsey]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

It’s not intensity we lack it’s potency.

That'll change after the Palace game, with LCFC winning 4-0 and everyone will be pro-Puel..

[Captain...]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Up until they scored there was nothing between the two teams, we seemed to lose heart after that and that was made worse from what I’m told was an offside goal, having said that we never really looked like scoring.

I would say up to half an hour we were the better side, same as Arsenal, but in both games the goal at the end of the first half was coming. We were sloppy and inviting pressure. We play with attacking full backs yet consistently play ourselves into trouble when they are in advanced positions. I get what @StriderHiryu is saying but persisting with this style with these players is not going to be successful. Ndidi, Morgan, Evans, Mendy and Schmeichel are all way to careless in possession and play us into trouble. Too often our full backs are forwards and the ball goes backwards and the opposition know that they can force the mistake.

[Guest MattP]

I thought we were the better side up until the goal. 

 

The way we gave up after was unforgiveable. 

[Langston]

Ask Jermaine Jenas to say 'area' then be sure to brace yourself for the worst thing you've ever listened to.

[ozleicester]

So... if we are incapable of playing or buying players to play the passing game, what is your plan? what do we do?

 

Surely we all know that there isnt a long term future in the counter game...its works for a season here and there, but isnt going to take us into the top 6.

 

Whats the answer? 

[somebum]

When was the last time we played good football for an entire game under Puel?

[somebum]

44 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

So... if we are incapable of playing or buying players to play the passing game, what is your plan? what do we do?

 

Surely we all know that there isnt a long term future in the counter game...its works for a season here and there, but isnt going to take us into the top 6.

 

Whats the answer? 

You know, there are lots of ways to play mate...

[Dan]

This in a nutshell is why Puel has a lot of doubters. We're a lifeless, dour side. I genuinely don't see us taking a single point off the top six home or away all season. Possibly Manchester United at home if they have a shocker but other than that I'd be surprised.

 

We are not a good team. Being 9th is because of two things - a fortunate fixture list so far where we've dodged inevitable defeats to Chelsea and Manchester City, and plenty of other crap in the league as well. I'm judging the table after 19 games and I'll be amazed if we're in the top half.

[Foxboy]

8 hours ago, Dave Fishwick said:

we were awful today. One of the best creative midfielders in the league in Maddison yet no movement in the final third. Just static 

 

We need to set up in ways to get the best out of him

 

it's just all so...meh...at the moment

Since when did Maddison become one of the best creative midfielders in the league? He’s literally played 16 games in the league ?

[Foxboy]

8 hours ago, ronnup said:

Sadly shows how far we’ve fallen. Rested their best players and walked it. We’re very mediocre. 

Seen a lot of these “rested their players” comments. They benched their two best players yes, but they still fielded a side filled with world class players that would all stroll into our side. You’re making out like they fielded a full second string team.

[ozleicester]

2 hours ago, somebum said:

You know, there are lots of ways to play mate...

do tell

[UPinCarolina]

8 hours ago, ronnup said:

Sadly shows how far we’ve fallen. Rested their best players and walked it. We’re very mediocre. 

Since when? Spring 2016? That ship sailed ages ago; well before Puel.

[ronnup]

1 hour ago, UPinCarolina said:

Since when? Spring 2016? That ship sailed ages ago; well before Puel.

Since the last game of last season when we battled with them to a 4-5 loss. 

[ronnup]

1 hour ago, Foxboy said:

Seen a lot of these “rested their players” comments. They benched their two best players yes, but they still fielded a side filled with world class players that would all stroll into our side. You’re making out like they fielded a full second string team.

 

Im making out what exactly? They rested their best places. I think that’s factual. We gave them a run for their money last season. This year they knew they could beat us without their best players. Simply an observation. 

[somebum]

2 hours ago, ozleicester said:

do tell

If you have a spare tennis ball, try giving it a bounce in your back garden. If you can grasp that, Google "different football tactics". Use image search as it may help you.