elvisfmcfly Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 16 minutes ago, Babylon said: I'm pretty non plussed about the bloke in all honestly, but there is so much ****ing utter tripe written that I can't help defend him. Jesus Imagine if you actuality liked the bloke then? Mania fanaticism hysteria and obsession at times! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 15 minutes ago, Babylon said: You do realise that the results of the bottom three have no impact of how good the entire league is don't you. There are years when big teams drop points left right and centre. There are others, when it's actually pretty rare like this year (until perhaps the last couple of weeks). Just one random picked year, Newcastle finished 5th in 03/04 with 56 points. Arsenal are on for 76. That can say a load of different things. Of course it shows how good the league is (there's also only a 3 point gap from the bottoms three to the rest). In a poor league the top teams will drop less points because there's a chasm between them and the rest of the league. Teams like Liverpool and Man City are turning up to places like Watford, Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton and getting straight-forward wins and those teams are not really taking points off the bigger sides. In a strong league teams take points off each other more frequently, the gap is less between top and 10th in terms of points and the points required to stay up is greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthStandUpperTier Posted 26 December 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: The only difference is until the last two games, it’s been like watching paint dry, boring as ****. Two entertaining, end to end football matches like the old days, and puel is the greatest again, let’s see against Cardiff Saturday wether he’s/ they have changed, or we revert back to slow sideways and backwards passing, hope not? What are you on about? Nobody claimed he was the greatest (except @Strokes) ever. Some of us are just sick of the character assassinations by people that don't really know him. Edited 26 December 2018 by SouthStandUpperTier 12 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Strokes Posted 26 December 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 26 December 2018 Puel is the greatest ever. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anglodanglo Posted 26 December 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 26 December 2018 40 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: My personal expectation is that we should have finished above Burnley last year with the squad and resources we had I imagine that's similar to Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs & Liverpool fans expectations when we won the league. The last two in that list have stuck with the manager. The last two in that list sit 1st & 2nd tonight. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsell1976 Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: What are you on about? Nobody claimed he was the greatest, ever. Some of us are just sick of the character assassinations. Listen I don’t mind puel, but lots out saying where’s his haters, people writing threads apologing for doubting him, so I’m saying ffs, it’s two games, let’s hope it carries on, but I’m sticking to what I believed before the last two games Edited 26 December 2018 by Monsell1976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: “All” Erm nope, grimaced through spurs reading us the riot act earlier this month and I watched merrily on as arsenal outclassed us two months ago. Or maybe it was watching Manchester City stick 5 past us in February maybe that’s one I ignored. Lets not make light of this week just because we’ve run the top six close a few times, got a couple of draws and more often than not ended up losing. although I’m not entirely sure what point you’re trying to make anyway. What is your point exactly? There have been issues at our club, the same issues that have survived 3 managers, only difference with Puel is he is actually having some success contending with these issues, over the period of a whole season too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manwell Pablo Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: What is your point exactly? There have been issues at our club, the same issues that have survived 3 managers, only difference with Puel is he is actually having some success contending with these issues, over the period of a whole season too What’s my point? I’m replying to a post ? we shouldn’t view winning these two games against big teams in one week as something that’s been coming, for a start off our last two games against them have been resounding defeats and in general we have struggled against them. One of our wins being against an arsenal side who chucked away games left right and center last season Nor should we say it’s just because it’s against teams that attack us as let’s see what happens in the next few games. Reminds why I don’t get involved with these conversations now all you get is someone from either the “IN”or “OUT” camp trying to start pointless arguements. Edited 26 December 2018 by Manwell Pablo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 His record against the top six isn't too bad, four wins and two draws since he joined. It is the record v the rest that needs improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 11 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: Of course it shows how good the league is (there's also only a 3 point gap from the bottoms three to the rest). In a poor league the top teams will drop less points because there's a chasm between them and the rest of the league. Teams like Liverpool and Man City are turning up to places like Watford, Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton and getting straight-forward wins and those teams are not really taking points off the bigger sides. In a strong league teams take points off each other more frequently, the gap is less between top and 10th in terms of points and the points required to stay up is greater. So if all the teams are equally shit and every game is drawn, it’s a “stronger league” than one where 10 teams are elite and the other 10 are Sunday League standard? This is absolute nonsense. Last year Bayern won the Bundesliga by 21 points. Man City won the Premier League by 19 points, PSG won Ligue 1 by 13 points, Barcelona won La Liga by 14 points. The only top league which was close was Serie A and even there Napoli (who finished second) got 91 points. This is not a particularly poor league. This is just the way football is now. The rich are getting richer and everyone else is left fighting for scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quorndon_Fox Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 For **** sake don’t have an opinion or eat any humble pie when it comes to Puel. 1: you’ll get your thread locked 2: everyone will claim your being passive aggressive or being negative. i honestly hope he proves me wrong. Certainly has in the last two games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 3 minutes ago, Corky said: His record against the top six isn't too bad, four wins and two draws since he joined. It is the record v the rest that needs improvement. Out of how many games is that? Purely for educational purposes not looking to debunk his record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 2 minutes ago, ttfn said: So if all the teams are equally shit and every game is drawn, it’s a “stronger league” than one where 10 teams are elite and the other 10 are Sunday League standard? This is absolute nonsense. Last year Bayern won the Bundesliga by 21 points. Man City won the Premier League by 19 points, PSG won Ligue 1 by 13 points, Barcelona won La Liga by 14 points. The only top league which was close was Serie A and even there Napoli (who finished second) got 91 points. This is not a particularly poor league. This is just the way football is now. The rich are getting richer and everyone else is left fighting for scraps. The comptiveness of a league has nothing to do with the strength of it why are you even arguing with him. His argument could basically prove the Andorran prem league is th best league in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 3 minutes ago, elvisfmcfly said: Out of how many games is that? Purely for educational purposes not looking to debunk his record! I think it is 14 matches. So in effect a point a game against the top six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 Santa Claude. Ho Ho Ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 4 minutes ago, Corky said: I think it is 14 matches. So in effect a point a game against the top six. It is now, yeah. you take the last 7 days out of the equation in which he doubled his win ratio and won 6 of those 14 points your left with the 2 wins 2 draws and 8 defeats which were supposed to make these back to back wins seem obvious. Hoping those that saw it coming all along had a decent wedge on the double as they could probably retire now, although obviously they didn’t as they thought we’d lose both games like the rest of us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 17 minutes ago, ttfn said: So if all the teams are equally shit and every game is drawn, it’s a “stronger league” than one where 10 teams are elite and the other 10 are Sunday League standard? This is absolute nonsense. Last year Bayern won the Bundesliga by 21 points. Man City won the Premier League by 19 points, PSG won Ligue 1 by 13 points, Barcelona won La Liga by 14 points. The only top league which was close was Serie A and even there Napoli (who finished second) got 91 points. This is not a particularly poor league. This is just the way football is now. The rich are getting richer and everyone else is left fighting for scraps. 10 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: The comptiveness of a league has nothing to do with the strength of it why are you even arguing with him. His argument could basically prove the Andorran prem league is th best league in Europe. Alright lads, having 12 points at the halfway mark and still only being the third worst team in the league or having 19 points (under halfway to the standard safety mark of 40 points) and being 14th clearly means it's not a poor league this year... Top half will be such an achievement this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 19 minutes ago, Corky said: His record against the top six isn't too bad, four wins and two draws since he joined. It is the record v the rest that needs improvement. Indeed. Much credit for the last couple of games for sure but when we play Cardiff it will be interesting to see how we perform then. Another convincing win and things really have turned a corner however if we go back to the turgid boring stuff the moans will understandably start again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) Two good results, i do still think he will be going in the end Edited 26 December 2018 by Mendi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UPinCarolina Posted 26 December 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mendi said: Two good results, i do still think he will be going in the end When is the end, and why are you happy about that? If he goes, it means things have gone very wrong. Edited 26 December 2018 by UPinCarolina 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 The question is,is Puel too good for us now? And what if some top clubs come trying to poach him? Hands off our Claude! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 8 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: Alright lads, having 12 points at the halfway mark and still only being the third worst team in the league or having 19 points (under halfway to the standard safety mark of 40 points) and being 14th clearly means it's not a poor league this year... Top half will be such an achievement this year If you want a genuine poor prem league I refer you to the 2015/16 premier league, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 29 minutes ago, Corky said: His record against the top six isn't too bad, four wins and two draws since he joined. It is the record v the rest that needs improvement. It was fairly crap until these last two games and now it's much more respectable. We've built a springboard to kick on now, even if it's still pissing me off we missed out on a free hit at the League Cup final had we dispatched of Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted 26 December 2018 Share Posted 26 December 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: When is the end, and why are you happy about that? If he goes, it means things have gone very wrong. Some of the players don't see eye to eye, it's not the last of matter trust me. I will give him time but dont be shocked if the media have a other story on him. He is on the club time to, when he will leave. Edited 26 December 2018 by Mendi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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