Raj Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 There was s time that a certain North London team thrived on winning games 1-0 and they did okay...but we are the mighty Leicester city FC and DEMAND entertainment!!
UniFox21 Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 9 hours ago, Collymore said: and....? He's the manager and so we discuss. You've managed to completely miss the point here man, there are tonnes of "discuss Puel" threads on this forum, we didn't need a new one. As I said, the point you made in regards to not scoring as many was great. But can't we focus on that rather than the consistent narrative of Puel in or Puel out brought on by threads like this?
siraaj_lcfc Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 This is somethng that has been bugging me for years. We hardly score more than 2 goals. We can barely manage 3. If memory serves me right, we've only scored 4 goals 3 times in our latest PL spell. And of course that wonderful 5 goal haul against Utd. But if we can't beat teams like Cardiff by at least 3 goals how are we going to challenge for anything. We got no firepower bois.
Izzy Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 10 hours ago, Collymore said: Puel has been here long enough now to look at some stats. One that caught my eye was total goals scored in a game... We last scored more than 2 in a Premier League match on the 22nd September 2018 V Huddersfield (only one this season) before that, 9th May V Arsenal at the end of last season. This is a bit of a half glass empty topic so far as we have stopped the flow at the other end too I do a miss hammering a team by 3 or more though... The way I see it is that we're in the PL - the so called 'toughest league in the world' where any team can beat another on their day. We have absolutely no divine right to be 'hammering' teams in this league by 3 or more IMO - whoever our Manager is. Would we rather scrape 1-0 wins as a mid-table PL side or win 3-0 every week in the Championship? I know which I prefer...
siraaj_lcfc Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 Just now, Izzy said: The way I see it is that we're in the PL - the so called 'toughest league in the world' where any team can beat another on their day. We have absolutely no divine right to 'hammering' teams in this league by 3 or more IMO - whoever our Manager is. Would we rather scrape 1-0 wins as a mid-table PL side or win 3-0 every week in the Championship? I know which I prefer... We have EVERY DIVINE RIGHT to be putting 4-5 past teams like Cardiff and Huddersfield. We have the capability but our squad seems to be content with 2 goals unlike the top 6 who will put on attackers when they're winning 6-0 (Spuds against Tranmere last nite)
StanSP Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 43 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: You've managed to completely miss the point here man, there are tonnes of "discuss Puel" threads on this forum, we didn't need a new one. As I said, the point you made in regards to not scoring as many was great. But can't we focus on that rather than the consistent narrative of Puel in or Puel out brought on by threads like this? There's literally no other way to focus on that without mentioning the manager and his style of football which is considerably different to what we've been used to in recent years. @Collymore doesn't even suggest it should be a Puel in or Puel Out thread, not like he's showing allegiance either way to either camp. He even says he's 'mutual'?!
UniFox21 Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 16 minutes ago, StanSP said: There's literally no other way to focus on that without mentioning the manager and his style of football which is considerably different to what we've been used to in recent years. @Collymore doesn't even suggest it should be a Puel in or Puel Out thread, not like he's showing allegiance either way to either camp. He even says he's 'mutual'?! In which case, it was probably me being a cynic, seeing the title of the thread next to "Puel to be sacked" and probably jumped the gun a bit.
David Hankey Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 How can we be expected to score more than 2 goals a game with our firepower?
The Doctor Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 1 hour ago, siraaj_lcfc said: . If memory serves me right, we've only scored 4 goals 3 times in our latest PL spell. It doesn't 14/15 5-3 v Man Utd 5-1 v QPR 15/16 4-2 v Sunderland 4-0 v Swansea 16/17 4-2 v Man City 17/18 4-1 @ Southampton 4-1 @ West Brom 4-5 @ Spurs
Collymore Posted 5 January 2019 Author Posted 5 January 2019 56 minutes ago, StanSP said: There's literally no other way to focus on that without mentioning the manager and his style of football which is considerably different to what we've been used to in recent years. @Collymore doesn't even suggest it should be a Puel in or Puel Out thread, not like he's showing allegiance either way to either camp. He even says he's 'mutual'?! I think I meant neutral
siraaj_lcfc Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 ONLY forgot the qpr sunderland westbrom and spurs
reynard Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 We would score more goals if we actually converted a higher percentage of the chances created, I know the bleedin obvious! Also we would create more clear cut chances hopefully resulting in more goals if at times we move the ball more quickly and more accurately and had more movement off the ball. There are many times in each game when we don't do this. Is this the manger or the players? I don't know but it is frustrating to watch at times.
BKLFox Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 Is this a pattern of Puel or a lack in quality of finishing, after all isn't our xG higher this season than previous seasons? I think it would be a pattern of Any manager to sit on a 2 goal lead and rather fool hardy to keep pushing and expose your defence just to make the numbers look good, unless of course you are totally in control of the game in every position.
Fox92 Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 On the flip side we don't concede as many either. AGAINST Liverpool 10 Chelsea 16 Manchester City 17 Tottenham 21 LCFC 23 Wolves 25
Ric Flair Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 9 hours ago, dmayne7 said: How can it be a decent thread if his facts are wrong? As pointed out, we scored more than 2 away at Spurs. That was last season. This season we've really struggled.
TheSomersetFox Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 1 hour ago, siraaj_lcfc said: We have EVERY DIVINE RIGHT to be putting 4-5 past teams like Cardiff and Huddersfield. We have the capability but our squad seems to be content with 2 goals unlike the top 6 who will put on attackers when they're winning 6-0 (Spuds against Tranmere last nite) Don’t be silly ffs. You mention Spurs but they barely scraped a 1-0 win over Cardiff at home. You sound like a bloody entitled Arsenal fan or something. Can you imagine the derision we’d have given opposition fans for saying this sort of thing about us when we got promoted? We should be beating these sides but claiming we should be sticking 4 or 5 past them is just bloody daft.
FilbertFrog Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 Another anti-Claude thread , some people need to get a life
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 The fact we don't concede many means we shouldn't have to score as much. Claude looks to be sorting the defence and working his way forward.
Hanan96 Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 2 hours ago, The Doctor said: It doesn't 14/15 5-3 v Man Utd 5-1 v QPR 15/16 4-2 v Sunderland 4-0 v Swansea 16/17 4-2 v Man City 17/18 4-1 @ Southampton 4-1 @ West Brom 4-5 @ Spurs I thought spurs one was 5-5!
Babylon Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 16 hours ago, The Doctor said: Also the 5-4 defeat at Spurs... We've scored 4 away from home on 3 separate occasions under Puel (Southampton, West Brom and Spurs). Our attack this season could be better, we've scored 25 (11th best), but we're adjusting to a post Mahrez world and I think the issue is overhyped (we've scored more than wolves and no-ones talking about them being weak in attack) We've only scored 4 on three ocassions in a year away from home. ****ing rubbish, sackable that.
Babylon Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 4 hours ago, Ric Flair said: That was last season. This season we've really struggled. We had something like the 4th or 5th worst defense last year. That needed sorting as a priority because we were losing our most creative player, one that's basically irreplaceable. I said in the summer our plan wouldn't be just try and replace one amazing player, that's too high risk and frankly stupid. Because if you get it wrong you are buggered. We needed to add creativity around the pitch to make up for his loss, whilst also tightening up and not conceding 60+ goals in a season. We've done exactly that. Yes we now need to tweak and improve our attacking further, but people need to look at the problem as a whole rather than one part. There have been multiple issues that needed addressing.
Nicolo Barella Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 32 minutes ago, Babylon said: We had something like the 4th or 5th worst defense last year. That needed sorting as a priority because we were losing our most creative player, one that's basically irreplaceable. I said in the summer our plan wouldn't be just try and replace one amazing player, that's too high risk and frankly stupid. Because if you get it wrong you are buggered. We needed to add creativity around the pitch to make up for his loss, whilst also tightening up and not conceding 60+ goals in a season. We've done exactly that. Yes we now need to tweak and improve our attacking further, but people need to look at the problem as a whole rather than one part. There have been multiple issues that needed addressing. Exactly. Two excellent young attacking fullbacks and a real creative No 10. with potential as well, plus the 5th best defence in the league, has meant we've dealt pretty well with Mahrez's departure. We can talk about more goals when our two starting wingers aren't Gray and Albrighton (although Albrighton has improved and adapted more than anyone thought possible to Puel's system).
TonyN11 Posted 5 January 2019 Posted 5 January 2019 20 hours ago, That_Dude said: Point worth to raise. However you should take into account that we don't have the same quality in the middle of the park and forward as before. Teams outside the top 6 are also very wary of our ability to counter-attack and Vardy can't do it all alone. Even him went through a rough patch this season. Actually I'm pretty amazed that we did so "well" this season without Mahrez until now. Mahrez is back?
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