les-tah Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 19 hours ago, danny2997 said: Huh? Isn't he on his first injury of his career? correct me if im wrong but im sure he missed quite abit of 16-17 with a bad injury.
danny2997 Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 15 minutes ago, les-tah said: correct me if im wrong but im sure he missed quite abit of 16-17 with a bad injury. I think you might be right, I only did a brief check online cause it didn't seem right but other posters have corrected me on previous pages.
inckley fox Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 17 hours ago, Babylon said: Feeding off scraps... 20 goals last, 8 goals this and the 2nd most big missed chances this season suggests it's more than just scraps. Could be better... could be a damn site worse! You're using one particular stat against him in reference to the 8 goals / 'most big missed chances', but ignoring it when you mention the 20 goals goals last season when his goals to expected goals stat was exceptional, and he probably should have ended up with a good few less according to xG. Over the course of the 18 months you're referring to, he's done well to score that many goals and remains the only striker out of many, and for two different clubs, who's achieved success under Puel in the EPL. I don't think we can brush that under the carpet. As for Maguire, it depends on the price. I hope it doesn't develop into a situation where he rates himself highly enough to play for a top side, wants to leave but doesn't believe they should pay big side prices (it normally does!). I do, however, think he might be error prone in a two man CB partnership with advanced full backs, and if you look at the goals we've conceded with and without him in the side (it's 0.8 without him, 1.4 with him in the side), we may well be able to deal with the loss. I still think in a back three he'd be a serious asset. I am a bit surprised if a young-ish player is so keen to leave a side which can seriously evolve over the next season or two. He's getting plenty of game time, and the clubs he wants to move to won't necessarily offer that. If you look at others who've angled for a move to a top club then it worked out fantastically in that regard for Kante, less so (so far) for Mahrez, and dreadfully for Drinkwater. If you look at a wider sample from other clubs, then you'd have to say - especially for mid-table players in mid-table form - it might be better to work on your game at a club where you're doing well. That said, I can't blame players wanting trophies and being ambitious. And if that's the case then I won't be at all bitter, I'll wish him the best, but neither would I be surprised if it worked out better for us than it did for him.
MPH Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 surely players having that hunger to be ambitious is the kind of player we want anyway? if someone spends three seasons and had that ambition to play champions league footy is going to mean they are giving 100% with us to get there. Not sure i want anting playing with us who is just content with a bottom half finish as surely that means they won’t be fully committed? now skill is relative to the player but ambition should be universal...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 14 hours ago, worthosoriginals said: utter nonsense, our fans know what's best. I was suggesting that Harry knows this, but I can see how it reads differently.
UPinCarolina Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 I believe that we can most afford to lose Maguire of our young players - so if he were to go, while I would be disappointed (who wouldn't?) - it would be a blow that we could absorb without upsetting the whole project.
Jimmy Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 19 hours ago, Babylon said: When fit it will be Stones and Gomez, Harry won't be fist choice. earlier this season all 3 were fit and Maguire was playing, in fact Gomez only started the last set when Maguire was injured
Babylon Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: earlier this season all 3 were fit and Maguire was playing, in fact Gomez only started the last set when Maguire was injured My opinion he won't be first choice, the others looked a better partnership in the four.
UniFox21 Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 58 minutes ago, Babylon said: My opinion he won't be first choice, the others looked a better partnership in the four. Maguire looks best in a 5 (or 3) when he charges forward it leaves them exposed at the back and unless England play dier, they don't have anyone to really drop in and cover. So, agree with your point.
AjcW Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 59 minutes ago, Babylon said: My opinion he won't be first choice, the others looked a better partnership in the four. Yep! If we’ve switched the a four maguire is a bench option now. He’s Euro class in a three... Prem at best in a two in my opinion
TheLittleBigMan Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 Why the fu*k are we talking about transfers when the windows just shut?! It's bad enough dealing with the speculation when it's open, let alone making sh*t up for ourselves when it's shut. How about we concentrate on supporting the team now.
Monsell1976 Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 The only two players in recent years I was bothered about losing was kante and mahrez when he wanted to be here, two players we could never replace. I can honestly say there isn’t a player in our squad at present I wouldn’t sell for the right price.
weller54 Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 40 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: The only two players in recent years I was bothered about losing was kante and mahrez when he wanted to be here, two players we could never replace. I can honestly say there isn’t a player in our squad at present I wouldn’t sell for the right price. Iheanacho.. 85p
fuchsntf Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 1 minute ago, weller54 said: Iheanacho.. 85p No. Nachos are 90p a bag..
fuchsntf Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 43 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: The only two players in recent years I was bothered about losing was kante and mahrez when he wanted to be here, two players we could never replace. I can honestly say there isn’t a player in our squad at present I wouldn’t sell for the right price. Depends if one wants,to carry on letting our better players,just go!! Or start to build a more positive next 138 years!!! I thought Kante was one of those unique players... Mahrez,who technically was one of our best ever players,and next to Weller goes down in my history books.....He still IMO wasn't on footballing terms unique for us,or the PL. Though I can still sync with your last thoughts!!
Father Ted Posted 14 February 2019 Posted 14 February 2019 Personally I would not blame any player wanting out should Puel start next season as our manager.
Ric Flair Posted 15 February 2019 Posted 15 February 2019 11 hours ago, Father Ted said: Personally I would not blame any player wanting out should Puel start next season as our manager. To a degree, I wouldn’t. However, I’d be a bit irked if one of the youngsters who have been given much more game time in the Puel regime were to want out straight the way. But then again, if it’s the pits here then that won’t matter to them.
Mike Oxlong Posted 15 February 2019 Posted 15 February 2019 12 hours ago, Father Ted said: Personally I would not blame any player wanting out should Puel start next season as our manager. Can’t argue with that. Not sure I’d want to be at a club where a significant proportion of the fans boo their own player onto the pitch.
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