Guest MattP Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: I love last minute goals, I was rooting for Man City earlier but I didn’t even celebrate that goal, I had a feeling they’d check it and rule it out for something. It’s the correct decision, but VAR as it is currently will ruin the game. Same here. The joy of a late minute goal is gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'm sure Sky aren't all that happy about Martin Tyler's pre-rehearsed commentary being ruined. On the other hand, I think it's hilarious. Funnily enough you have probably nailed the single biggest chance of this disgusting thing being banished from the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 Well Pep says it needs fixing. He didn't elaborate but as I've said before, this VAR is a leveller against the so called big teams. They will drop points against the so called little teams this season because of VAR. Just a shame it was Spurs who profited from it today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Dude Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 7 minutes ago, MattP said: People will never get used to the jubilation of celebrating a last minute minute and seeing it brought back for something so innocuous. You'd be surprised at what a bit of time can do. People will adapt as they always did. I do agree that it's a kill joy at the moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 9 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Brilliant point. I agree - but anyone could've told you that long before it started. I hate it. And yes, I like honest mistakes and the miscarriages of justice that have always happened pre VAR. Mistakes are reflective of real life, are character building and create legend, myth, controversy etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 It’s a goal .. celebrate !! .... VAR ... gives it ... celebrate again !!! Brilliant !! .... VAR doesn’t give it .. other team celebrates !! .... sounds much more fun to me ! ... and eliminates bad decisions and fookin cheating !! ... good by me ! .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 The problem started when we allowed slow motion replay. We either accept a game that allows for human error or not. VAR is nothing more than an answer to us being unwilling to accept inconsistency and human nature. Perfection is human nature. Anal retentionists and control freaks are ruining everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 I'm not sure why there is so much being made of the disallowed goal, to the letter of the new laws (rightly or wrongly) the goal should have been disallowed, as it was. What I think we should be discussing is how and why VAR didn't look at the Man City penalty appeal, for me there is no question, it was a penalty and it wasn't even looked at. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 47 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Beginning to come to terms with the dislike of VAR. It creates dramatic moments which are brilliant, but it takes away some of the incredible emotion of football That's it for me in a nutshell. It still isn't totally fair and you're sacrificing emotion for it. No deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 4 minutes ago, SO1 said: The problem started when we allowed slow motion replay. We either accept a game that allows for human error or not. VAR is nothing more than an answer to us being unwilling to accept inconsistency and human nature. Perfection is human nature. Anal retentionists and control freaks are ruining everything. Human error wasn’t the problem for me ... I’ve played football most of my life and that was never an issue ... the problem for me is blatant cheating ... if VAR stops that and penalises those cheating cvnts then brilliant ! The game has improved.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 This is what I don't understand - why is it the sympathy is with the Man City fans having to uncelebrate a goal because it was (correctly) ruled out, when the alternative is Spurs have dropped a point because of a goal that shouldn't have counted? Surely the right decision being made is the most important thing here? Corky made a good point earlier on that it's ironic VAR exists today because people can't accept human error, now they seem willing to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 I don't think the handball rule will last for too long. It will be tweaked in future as it's removing an important element of the game. I think a lot of fans would welcome some human error rather than this clinical approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunky Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 Just now, Walkers said: Corky made a good point earlier on that it's ironic VAR exists today because people can't accept human error, now they seem willing to accept it. Have to b*tch about something! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 1 minute ago, Walkers said: This is what I don't understand - why is it the sympathy is with the Man City fans having to uncelebrate a goal because it was (correctly) ruled out, when the alternative is Spurs have dropped a point because of a goal that shouldn't have counted? Surely the right decision being made is the most important thing here? Corky made a good point earlier on that it's ironic VAR exists today because people can't accept human error, now they seem willing to accept it. You haven't followed leicester long have you? We're much rather spurs lose points than almost anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 (edited) I can hand on heart say I'd rather be sat here on 0 points and with a 0-1 loss against a competitive rival without VAR than be here with a point and a 0-0 draw with them with it. The time to adapt arguments make no sense either - it's been in football for a couple of years, it's still as shambolic and inconsistent as ever, that's the nature of it. It's over-analysis. When Leicester countered from our free kick we got for the handball last week we ran up and won a corner that Perez handballed twice on the way to getting it - say we scored there, the goal would count. That's just nonsense. Is it seriously worth sacrificing the emotion of euphoria for this? Absolutely not. If you can't celebrate goals without them being double checked then the game's gotten worse and nobody will convince me otherwise no matter how much the new rules back you up. Edited 17 August 2019 by Dan LCFC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 2 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: I can hand on heart say I'd rather be sat here on 0 points and with a 0-1 loss against a competitive rival without VAR than be here with a point and a 0-0 draw with them with it. The time to adapt arguments make no sense either - it's been in football for a couple of years, it's still as shambolic and inconsistent as ever, that's the nature of it. It's over-analysis. When Leicester countered from our free kick we got for the handball last week we ran up and won a corner that Perez handballed twice on the way to getting it - say we scored there, the goal would count. That's just nonsense. Is it seriously worth sacrificing the emotion of euphoria for this? Absolutely not. If you can't celebrate goals without them being double checked then the game's gotten worse and nobody will convince me otherwise no matter how much the new rules back you up. Completely agree some people seriously miss the point, maybe they don’t go to games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 I'm putting all of the YouTube highlights in this thread at the end of every matchday. Obviously it's no Match of the Day, but it's still decent. The Douglas Luiz cracker for Aston Villa is well worth checking out! Banger! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 19 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: You haven't followed leicester long have you? We're much rather spurs lose points than almost anything else. I'm not arsed who the teams in question are, I stand by my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 I have to say I was a fan of how VAR was implemented during the World Cup but so far it hasn't worked well in the premier League. The PL is fast paced and exciting and this just doesn't fit in. Also how did Man City not get a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 17 August 2019 Author Share Posted 17 August 2019 A full day of Saturday football, some cracking goals and perform along the way, rounded of with two of the top 3 in the country playing out an entertaining 4 goal game and all we have here is post after post discussing the merits of VAR. Everywhere I read or listen all anyone is talking about is VAR, it appears to have about a 50/50 split of people who are in favour / against. This for me isn’t what footballs about, we should be talking Pukki’s hat-trick, still no wins for Watford or how Brighton are looking far better than anyone have them credit for preseason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stinkenzo Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 1 minute ago, Aus Fox said: A full day of Saturday football, some cracking goals and perform along the way, rounded of with two of the top 3 in the country playing out an entertaining 4 goal game and all we have here is post after post discussing the merits of VAR. Everywhere I read or listen all anyone is talking about is VAR, it appears to have about a 50/50 split of people who are in favour / against. This for me isn’t what footballs about, we should be talking Pukki’s hat-trick, still no wins for Watford or how Brighton are looking far better than anyone have them credit for preseason. And if VAR wasn't around, we'd be putting those subjects to ond side and commenting how this ref and that linesman missed the most blatant foul/offside and how unfair football is on us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 (edited) Waiting for the moment VAR disappears and the moaners come out in full force about a shite ref, farce etc. I agree VAR has its issues but there has to be some sort of happy medium. Imagine we could win the league but man city scores a goal off a hand deflection and win the league over us on the last game of the season. The issue with VAR thought is if you dont call all handballs its down to interpretation again which is where we end up with bad calls. It has to be all or none in the box. Also other issues with it..I think more thought has to go into this and keep it out of the tops leagues until they get it right. Edited 17 August 2019 by Jattdogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 17 August 2019 Author Share Posted 17 August 2019 Just now, Walkers said: And if VAR wasn't around, we'd be putting those subjects to ond side and commenting how this ref and that linesman missed the most blatant foul/offside and how unfair football is on us Which one exactly would we be talking about after today? Do you think seriously anyone would be complaining about Man City’s goal not being disallowed? What big decisions would have been missed today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 17 August 2019 Share Posted 17 August 2019 Having firstly thought var was a good idea it is now an absolute disaster. Every time i see a goal now either on tele or down the kp im not going to be able to celebrate until they have kicked off again, its a good idea in principle that is going to destroy football as we know it. Its bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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